Ranking Destroys Fun.....

[KnusperKeks 7]

Since 2 weeks it is impossible to have fun on the office Beta server....

Teams are so stacked that one Team leads with over 100!! rounds while the other team gets hammered. I mean common 100 rounds lead....The worst part is when T lead (100 rounds) and they lose 1!!! round all Ts are in projektor this would be ok if the team would not be stacked like crazy.

Look at this screens (screen 1) taken recently votescrambles didnt go through (3 of them) All players except the green marked refused to join Ct some of them trying to be creative and sayed "they wanted to go Ct but there where to many at the time they joined.....)

Screen 2 same shit....

Im not saying that joining the winning team sometimes is ok but men 100 Rounds lead.....this is a joke. and i see this recently very often. Result is that not so good players get frustrated and leave ( which is understandable)

Make a force scramble after a team leads 50 rounds cause teams wont be balanced. This ranking system invites players to farm points cause its based a lot on team performance....

Have a sweet day

[Mana 3,867]

Scramble doesn't actually reset the round wins. So it would still keep increasing

[Voltazar 3]

When is mana cared about css server? mana has that notice in his signature for long time already... if it takes this long to move into a house... than we will wait approx. 6-8 months before mana is even gives shit about this problem. He just make off topic response and he knows that plugin is paece fo trash but he decides to keep it

i know this a one of serious problems in server, but knus is act like inosant child, but you are exploit this more than everyone.... joining other team when they are winning. if you dont like it, can always go to lotus office server on regular css, teams are normal.

[Corvus 0]

I just find that in this server, it is almost impossible to balance the teams. Even if players switch to the other team to balance it, eventually the stronger players will all migrate to one team. As of right now, there is no possible way on this server to keep the teams balanced for more than a few rounds. The only solution I see that would fix this stacking problem is if the community works together and switches teams, to prevent one side for getting too stacked. I hate playing when the teams are that stacked, but unless everyone works together and stop being a stats/KD whore, there is no way I see that this problem will be fixed any time soon.

[KnusperKeks 7]

Nobody is complaining if a Team is 20 rounds ahead....but 100...

Dear Volta do u have any proof what so ever that im always in winning team...any? show me even one screen where im in a team that leads by 50+ rounds.

and yes i join the losing team and yes i leave it when they just refuse to play at least a little tactical, nothing wrong with that. I can at least then say i tried it and failed.

Easy way to make stacking teams difficult would be FORCED autojoin (this is possible) and then players CANT change their team.

[Voltazar 3]

What sense for me to make a screenshot...? I have nothing better to do than to make screenshot of players teamstacking... i dont even need to see this! People who are playing for some time can say... believe me, i am against teamstacking and most of my time in beta is joke, i am playing against 4-5 top10 on the other team, and i am left with 1-3 afk and many people who have head inside ass, 300 ping shit... impossible situation and people are crying about camping.

also, mana will not do a shit about installing plugin for force autojoin... and i have been playing on this server for over 1 year, and i never seen mana do anything to the server but make it a shit hole instead of improvements... even to have simple thing like afk auto-kick... it will never happen period.

[Soad 39]

What sense for me to make a screenshot...? I have nothing better to do than to make screenshot of players teamstacking... i dont even need to see this! People who are playing for some time can say... believe me, i am against teamstacking and most of my time in beta is joke, i am playing against 4-5 top10 on the other team, and i am left with 1-3 afk and many people who have head inside ass, 300 ping shit... impossible situation and people are crying about camping.

also, mana will not do a shit about installing plugin for force autojoin... and i have been playing on this server for over 1 year, and i never seen mana do anything to the server but make it a shit hole instead of improvements... even to have simple thing like afk auto-kick... it will never happen period.

I thought I was going to stay out of this but you're full of shit Volt. I do agree however, that changes need to be made to the server.

Heres Voltazar's playstyle:

• Winning Team » Terrorists; Volt stays in projector
  
• Losing Team » Terrorists; Volt stays in projector
  
• Winning Team » Counter Terrorists; Volt hangs around in Office for 2-3 minutes then moves forward
  
• Losing Team » Counter Terrorists; Volt camps in office/snowman until round is over/he dies
  

You say you don't rush because your team sucks? I have seen you countless times on the winning terrorist team as you stay in projector for fear of dieing by rushing out. You're one of the biggest statwhores of this server behind 205 P4, who is banned.

Not only that, but you have claimed to be one of the best players on the server, which is utter crap and makes you look cocky. Also, but you defended 205 P4 when the evidence was against him, which destroys pretty much any credibility you have. The Az's were notorious for teamstacking, shit talking and the likes so you shouldn't even be talking here.

Once P4 was gone, my clan |iNh| became the clear "mover" in terms of winning/losing, which means we were stuck with a responsibility. I posted an announcement (Below) soon after Az began to fall, and we've been abiding by it quite well, however we cannot help it when say, good, non clan players hop to the terrorists when its me or another |iNh| on T and for example, one |iNh| on CT.

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Knusperkeks is in iNh, and although he doesnt tag with us, I notice hes a very good sport and always moves to the losing team for 10+ rounds before leaving if the team is hopeless. So essentially I agree with Knuspy, one team 100 rounds ahead is not cool.

What I posted a while back on our clan page:

Screenshot of you and your other Az buddy joining my team, the winning team. (I was the first to join the terrorists, others followed me later on.)

Next time, get your facts straight before you defend yourself with a half-assed argument.

[Voltazar 3]

I can explain my playing style - but this will be for another time. You are wrong, i don't care about stat. Now accusing me of being a stat whore behind p4... that is just making yourself look like moron... do not speak about it if you are doing it yourself... i can make reference to stats and you can easily be proven to be bigger whore than everyone. I am one of best players, yes that is true... but i can say that there is a few better players than me... you are feel like i am cock because of that statement? I am not too surprised. I am lost credit because i did stick up for p4, even against all odds... who cares, what kind of credit do i need to have? i am not looking to become anything more on this server. Post on your clan page is simply meaningless... its unfortunate that no body is follow those rules even yourself.. i recieve many trash talk from your clan... its pathetics because that is same acting like 12 years old. Do not even attempt to write that your clan is trying to be even on the server... that is just a bullshit.

[Soad 39]

I can explain my playing style - but this will be for another time. You are wrong, i don't care about stat. Now accusing me of being a stat whore behind p4... that is just making yourself look like moron... do not speak about it if you are doing it yourself... i can make reference to stats and you can easily be proven to be bigger whore than everyone. I am one of best players, yes that is true... but i can say that there is a few better players than me... you are feel like i am cock because of that statement? I am not too surprised. I am lost credit because i did stick up for p4, even against all odds... who cares, what kind of credit do i need to have? i am not looking to become anything more on this server. Post on your clan page is simply meaningless... its unfortunate that no body is follow those rules even yourself.. i recieve many trash talk from your clan... its pathetics because that is same acting like 12 years old. Do not even attempt to write that your clan is trying to be even on the server... that is just a bullshit.

Doing it myself? Sure I went from 1.5KDR to 1.7 then to my current 2.18 or so once Beast and P4 asked me to join their clans, it was normal for me to try and raise it. I learned quickly on how to play correctly and within two months or so you can see my scores going up, which is 100% from watching good players and trying different playstyles.

Just because I actually went from being below average to slightly above average (For a pub) doesnt make me a statwhore. A statwhore hides, camps, and leaves to make sure they die rarely. You are often votekicked for sitting around in office as a CT for 3-4 minutes.

You lost your credit by defending a CHEATER once the evidence was put out. If there was no evidence, I would respect your opinion, however, that was not the case. Few better players? On Lotus? Maybe. In CSS, not a chance. Camping projector room doesnt indicate skill at all.

Only trash talk I see is people calling you campazar, because you make rounds incredibly long by waiting until the last second to move forward.

[Voltazar 3]

I am not talking about kdr... i am talking about win ratio, if you look at win ratio, it is obvious if person is staking or playing on loosing team. There is nothing to be proud about 37% of kills to be p90, that is another problem for a different topic. Often, that is all i see from your clan. I am votekicked for sitting in office because when there is a situation with 1v5 (most of the time it is higher)... nothing you can do. i don't give a shit if i have a credit or not for defending p4... he's a good friend of mine and i am not so fast to just put them down... it's personal thing. I did not say i am best of whole CSS... saying that is just pure nonsense. I dont play just cs_office, able to pay any map... and still perform at same level (probably can play even better on other maps actually)

[187 KT 0]

Ok, Soad, your complete bs. all you care about is kdr. ive witnessed you go from one team to the other with your horrible score. then it just coincidently rises. anyways, get off of az's back would you. your mad because ive managed to keep it going. me myself dominates your whole team and im not even in the top 10. Its sad too because 2.0kdr fell faster then az did. maybe you should train your clan a little better because they might need it.

[Soad 39]

I am not talking about kdr... i am talking about win ratio, if you look at win ratio, it is obvious if person is staking or playing on loosing team. There is nothing to be proud about 37% of kills to be p90, that is another problem for a different topic. Often, that is all i see from your clan. I am votekicked for sitting in office because when there is a situation with 1v5 (most of the time it is higher)... nothing you can do. i don't give a shit if i have a credit or not for defending p4... he's a good friend of mine and i am not so fast to just put them down... it's personal thing. I did not say i am best of whole CSS... saying that is just pure nonsense. I dont play just cs_office, able to pay any map... and still perform at same level (probably can play even better on other maps actually)

Soad Past 20 Sessions » Average Win Ratio » 66.15%

Voltazar Past 20 Sessions » Average Win Ratio » 66.2%

Hey thats interesting! We have essentially the exact same win ratio from the past 20 days.

On the topic of the p90, it used to be 50-70% of my kills back when I was a newb, however I nearly always use the Ak nowadays if I have access to it/not rushing like crazy. Its normal to always use the Ak/M4 if you happen to sit back a lot/camp.

Ok, Soad, your complete bs. all you care about is kdr. ive witnessed you go from one team to the other with your horrible score. then it just coincidently rises. anyways, get off of az's back would you. your mad because ive managed to keep it going. me myself dominates your whole team and im not even in the top 10. Its sad too because 2.0kdr fell faster then az did. maybe you should train your clan a little better because they might need it.

Ok, Soad, your complete bs. all you care about is kdr

Opinion. I care more about having a clan with an awesome group of people I can talk to as friends, who are also very good players. The more I think about it, it seems like you guys have become more hostile as I passed you in rank, which is quite sad.

ive witnessed you go from one team to the other with your horrible score. then it just coincidently rises

Screenshots? I have many showing Az joining my team, the winning team, instead of countering me and balancing it out. Look above for an example.

anyways, get off of az's back would you. your mad because ive managed to keep it going. me myself dominates your whole team and im not even in the top 10

The only thing I'm against is your playstyle, everyone hated Az for teamstacking and simply mass-recruiting to stack the server. Thats why beast left. "Me myself"? Does that even make sense? Screenshots of yourself dominating please.

Taken from your statpage:

Its sad too because 2.0kdr fell faster then az did. maybe you should train your clan a little better because they might need it.

|iNh| is 2.0KDR essentially. Anyway, I don't need to "train" my clan because nearly all of them are better than me. I honestly don't think Eclipse and Scout Master need to be trained, seeing as they, blindfoled, could put you in your place in seconds.

Just some advice, stop making a fool of yourself with your terrible english and horrible "defense".

[Tommy Treehugger 0]

The drama in this thread is delightful.

[Abominable Dr. Phibes 6]

You will find this problem on almost any css server though, not just this one. And I have to say It's not just stats that fuels it, but people's lack of "sportsmanship" when it comes to losing. In my opinion, and as a player for 9 years, you learn from these experiences and get better at the game. You can't win without losing.

[187 KT 0]

Soad, just some advice, not only did i almost dominate you and your little buddy just a little bit ago, you quit because your embarrassed to see your failure, so my advice to you, go get some more skills if you have any, before saying your better then me. your dumb little stats of you killing me is nothing, your nothing, your clan is nothing,And please dont make any excuse as of why you left, just pathetic.

[Soad 39]

Soad, just some advice, not only did i almost dominate you and your little buddy just a little bit ago, you quit because your embarrassed to see your failure, so my advice to you, go get some more skills if you have any, before saying your better then me. your dumb little stats of you killing me is nothing, your nothing, your clan is nothing,And please dont make any excuse as of why you left, just pathetic.

You're making a out of yourself.

I'm not here to engage in a pissing match with you, because I have nothing to prove. I never said I was better, I only present facts. These facts show that I kill you more than you kill me. Simple.

Back ontopic: Votescramble as of right now is a joke and should be fixed, I'm not too sure if there are other plugins that are better but in the meantime, the stacking problem has to be fixed by the players. Sometimes players just quit en-masse from one side and it goes from being balanced to stacked in mere seconds.

However, 100 rounds of dominating one side is too much, and if my clanmates were contributing to the domination while I was there I would ask them to balance it out, which we always try to do.

Forced autojoin would be interesting, I've never played on a server with it, but Mana should give it a try.