What Is Happening With The Lotus Servers ?

[Outcast2 17]

Being from europe i play on the UK dustbowl server and lately there are fewer and fewer people playing there , actually the majority of time the server is empty.

One would ask when did this happened ? since the stats went down.

Personally i don't give a fuck about stats but some and most frequent players do give a fuck about stats , while i view them badly for playing for stats they do make the server full so WTF is happening ? when will the stats go online again cause the uk server is getting emptier by the day.

Did something happened to Mana ? is he sick or does he have a problem ? or whoever manage the servers and stats , give us some hope things will be fixed eventually.

[locomotive 15]

Ehhh well I play on the uk servers (payload stocks) and all the regulars I play with are still playing maybe you log on too early or too late at night? another theory would be that since it's june most of us high school/college students that play tf2 have final exams to study for so we aint as active, I dont think it has anything to do with stats

Edited June 1, 2010 by locomotive

[Outcast2 17]

In that case it's understandable , hopefully everyone will be back after exams so i can kick their asses.

[locomotive 15]

The uk payload stocks that I play on all the time is almost always full you can come kick our asses there if you like just tell us when your coming so we can bend down and give you a clear shot (Warning:I tend to get nasty with a certain class everyone hates(excluding pyros))

[Outcast2 17]

I usually like only dustbowl but i'll give it shot with the stock map.

[Bob Saget 0]

After seeing hackers run rampant through the server, I'm taking a stand to this.

Name: Brian Ryals

Age: 22

Previous admin experience: Played for =FaA= in CAL and was admin on their 32-man public server. Had much experience catching hackers and was good at talking with the players about suspicious actions.

What lotus server I play on: 208.115.218.39:27015

Link to stats profile: stats page is broken

Why I'd be a good admin: I'm a friendly guy and I get along with everyone. However, seeing so many hackers on the server (like tonight for example) run around aimbotting while everyone struggles to voteban him is probably the most aggravating thing in the world. With me as your admin, I'd take care of it right away. I play a lot so I'd be on the ball 24/7.

[Outcast2 17]

Dear Bob ,if you want to make lotus servers a better place you should know the biggest problem is not aimbots , biggest problem is the simple model skin wallhack wich regular players have , on the UK server there is almost no shame in using it , i see heavys shooting the wall before they hit the enemy , obvious tracking the enemy trough walls , snipers pre aiming and the list goes on.

I guarantee you 99% of top players from those stats that are down now are cheating , they all have the wallhack.

Now that you know so many people are cheating you think you can ban all of them ? not a chance , they are so many that you have to ban even donors , i don't think mana wants the donors banned , even if some cheat smartly ( just WH ).

So you would have a base of hundreds of cheaters you can't touch , whats the line bettwen wallhackers and aimbots ? you would have to accept some cheats , this is the ugly truth my friend.

If it were my servers i would've baned lots of "good players" but then again i wouldn;t had much succes as donors goes.

[Paul Bunyan 13]

I don't think Mana has a problem with taking someone's money and then banning them for cheating. It's their fault for cheating.

And to Bob, I don't think Mana's accepting admin applications for Team Fortress 2. If you really feel inclined, you could send a prive message to Mana. Good luck, though.

[Outcast2 17]

I don't think Mana has a problem with taking someone's money and then banning them for cheating. It's their fault for cheating.

Like i said , it depends on the cheat , if he speedhacks and aimbots then he is baned , why ? the abuse he will do will cause the server to go empty and from where do you get donors then ?

If he wallhacks smartly not to get caught he will not get baned if he is a donor , wallhacks leave so much to interpretation you can always make some excuse why he made that "lucky shot".

[locomotive 15]

I dont know about the hackers, I aint a doner cause I cant donate were I live atm -.- but I dont think there are any hackers around that dont get banned. and bobby NICE SPAM you can copy/paste text too, sweet!!!!!

[Outcast2 17]

I dont know about the hackers, I aint a doner cause I cant donate were I live atm -.- but I dont think there are any hackers around that dont get banned. and bobby NICE SPAM you can copy/paste text too, sweet!!!!!

Keep believing the sniper/soldier/heavy/demoman that rapes you over and over again is actually good , people like me who play games since zx spectrum tend to believe there is some shit going on here .

[locomotive 15]

Keep believing the sniper/soldier/heavy/demoman that rapes you over and over again is actually good , people like me who play games since zx spectrum tend to believe there is some shit going on here .

Thats the thing...I am usually the spy/demo/heavy (dont snipe anymore, suck as solider)

that does the raping and I dont think I hack unless you count my sometimes very weird and lucky headshots with the ambassador a hack... just saying seen some really good players on tf2 with some amazing frag abilities and they dont hack.

[Paul Bunyan 13]

Keep believing the sniper/soldier/heavy/demoman that rapes you over and over again is actually good

What about the soldier and medic camping sewers dominating everybody?

[locomotive 15]

I got a problem with solider idk I think demo is so much better cause of his ammo and damage and even speed adv but everyone likes solider for some reason..I can play with him but not any good...

[smeghammer 0]

I gotta say i'm confused about this. I've played fairly regularly over the past 6 months on the payload server, and i've never seen one person hacking?

So are you on about something else?

[locomotive 15]

coooooooooooookiess

[Outcast2 17]

I beg Mana to make servers Sv_pure 2 and you will have a shock how badly some will play ( who were good before ) , maybe even you if you are one god like player who takes half the team before he dies.

I found that VERY TOP PLAYERS smartly use wallhacks and you can hardly prove they cheat , they know how to use it and they can't get caught , people think they are good but they are actually shit if they play blind ( without wallhack ).

Make no mistake , they are very good players even if you take away the wallhack but not to the extent of dominating half the enemy team and raping people beyond belief , if you take away the wallhack they will do considerable less damage and they begin to make little difference in a 16VS16 match.

On the UK server there was an exploit at some point wich Mana overlooked that allowed some scripts ( demoman rapid stickies , scout and engi super fast pistol....) , i told him about it and after he fixed the problem half the regular people there stoped joining the server , i remember one guy ( NIX ) man he raped people hard with fast stickies , the moment the server was fixed he never joined again , people were under the impression he was good , he had medics fighting to heal him and kritz him.

So my logic is 99% of top players cheat on public servers like this where wallhacks work , i asked mana to block any kind of models and he said he can't because the donors get some hats ad stuff and those won't work if he makes the server sv_pure 2 , so some cheats will work.

For people thinking Valve anti cheat and bullshit like this , no , it cant detect this cheat because it's an engine bug that works on all source games , CS , CSS , L4D and TF2 , VAC can't act on this because it might infringe some rights like privacy or because it's just a skin , hacked true but a skin so it will never be detected as cheat.

[locomotive 15]

well I dont usually have 8 domination acctually got it just a few times but 3-5 dominations are common as demo or heavy and sometimes yes its like I am raping the whole team but I still dont use hacks or whatever ur talking about Idk but most of the people that I play tf2 with dont use hacks. and ur saying top players hack.. well I was ranked 18 before stats got screwed if ur calling me a hacker I aint offended mainly cause it aint true.

[smeghammer 0]

We've had 8 doms a piece loco before now, it's a rarity but well within the realms of possibility. Personally on the payload server, i've pretty much vetted everyone who's shown a modicum of extraordinary skill, and i can say with confidence that no-one has been hacking on there. You can spot someone wallhacking from a mile away, and even tho some of the players are ridiculously good, you can just tell they ain't hacking. Can't say the same thing for the other servers tho cos i never play em.

There really is a fine line between hackers and very good players killing very shit players. And you're not the only one who had a spectrum =/

[locomotive 15]

outcast you played with me earlier today on the uk payload stocks server. How did ya like my hacks???

[Outcast2 17]

outcast you played with me earlier today on the uk payload stocks server. How did ya like my hacks???

I didn't played with you on UK payload , i don't even have that server in my list , if you insist i will join that server to please your request and i will comeback here to give the verdict if you cheat or not , in a few minutes i'll know if you do or not.

Just so you know i'm this guy http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007900425

with the steam ID STEAM_0:1:23817348

If you raped some Outcast clone dream on , i'm don't die quietly , matter of fact i don't think i ever joined the uk payload stocks server , i keep refreshing the internet servers and can't find that server , i have to get the link from here.

[locomotive 15]

oh I feel stupid now. No I didn't rape him I just killed him in a really really funny way his name was outcast too ,fun guy actually, so ma bad you should join the server it's good.

Edited June 8, 2010 by locomotive