myelin 10 #1 Posted July 19, 2010 [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel 7/18/10, around 12:00am on the Goldrush #1 server STEAM_0:0:715335 Vote muting as a donor for no reason. This clan, in general, has a history of abusing donor privilidges. [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel : votemuteImaFailure connected The Monster[CoCa] killed Xx_CKY_xX with tf_projectile_pipe_remote. Lotus: [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel initiated a votemute against myelin [Team Win]. [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. Johnny Sodapop [Team Win] voted against muting myelin [Team Win]. ookij voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. Soulja voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. Grim Reefer [Team Win] voted against muting myelin [Team Win]. myelin [Team Win] voted against muting myelin [Team Win]. Simon voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. Chump voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. The Monster[CoCa] voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. RAWR <SeXaH> voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. Dominated voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. Metro voted against muting myelin [Team Win]. Trunkmonkey [insert Tag Here] voted against muting myelin [Team Win]. Soulja killed Mr Bubbles with southern_comfort_kill. Happycake Crusader! voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. Mr Bubbles killed brianjo with obj_attachment_sapper. cerulean killed Mr Bubbles with minigun. ookij killed Mr Bubbles with sledgehammer. merK (bottle4life) voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. BaronMunchausen voted against muting myelin [Team Win]. Simon killed brianjo with tf_projectile_pipe. [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel : YES Soulja killed Mr Bubbles with southern_comfort_kill. [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel : YES Soulja killed Mr Bubbles with southern_comfort_kill. [-VM-] A bumbled-bee killed Almivito with tf_projectile_rocket. [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel : YES Mr Bubbles killed Soulja with obj_attachment_sapper. [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel : YES [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel : YES [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel : YES The Monster[CoCa] defended First Cap, Stage One for team #2 The Monster[CoCa] killed Chump with tf_projectile_pipe_remote. [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel : YE Almivito killed Mr Bubbles with southern_comfort_kill. Mr Bubbles voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. NTQ voted for muting myelin [Team Win]. Dominated killed cerulean with knife. (crit) Turd Ferguson [insert Tag Here] voted against muting myelin [Team Win]. The Monster[CoCa] killed Dominated with tf_projectile_pipe_remote. Almivito voted against muting myelin [Team Win]. Lotus has servers in Los Angeles, Chicago, New Jersey and Maidenhead, England. Visit LotusClan.com and pick a server closest to you. cerulean voted against muting myelin [Team Win]. Happycake Crusader! killed Grim Reefer [Team Win] with sniperrifle. RAWR <SeXaH> killed The Monster[CoCa] with flamethrower. [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel : hahahahahha RAWR <SeXaH> killed Soulja with flamethrower. RAWR <SeXaH> killed Soulja with flamethrower. Lotus: Muted player myelin [Team Win]. Lotus: Vote successful. (Received 57% of 21 votes). Further evidence of abuse from this person comes from this thread: http://img651.imageshack.us/f/vmabuse.jpg/ This one I highlighted the area where Engi Boom was calling Wolf out on him kicking him and why and you can see the vote failed. http://img682.imageshack.us/f/vmabuse2.jpg/ This one shows how he initiated another votekick and has his steamid listed http://img694.imageshack.us/f/vmabuse4.jpg/ This one is where he answered me in team chat after I asked in voice chat who started the vote and how I would post the ss's on the forums http://img641.imageshack.us/f/vmabuse3.jpg/ This is a continued ss of the last one where someone else was calling me a pussy saying I wouldn't post them and such and then the vote to mute me because I was calling them out. I had left the server after I was votemuted for no reason and then Boom asked if I was going to report you and I said I would, he then told me 4 more kicks were initiated while I was gone and they all failed and he left after getting tired of having to worry if he'd actually get kicked because people mindlessly push Yes at times. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MCG-TiGeR T 0 #2 Posted July 19, 2010 [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel STEAM_0:0:715335 Excessive votemutes as a donor. Further evidence that this person deserves a ban: notice how its a vote-mute..obviously its because YOU MIC SPAM ALL DAY EVERYDAY..people would agree with me thats why they vote YES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davep 1 #3 Posted July 19, 2010 notice how its a vote-mute..obviously its because YOU MIC SPAM ALL DAY EVERYDAY..people would agree with me thats why they vote YES 99% of the time votes pass on the server because people mindlessly hit 1 which is Yes. People don't really care what the vote is about they just want it off there screen. Stop trying to defend yourself by saying people actually wanted him muted when you know for a fact that him being muted is a pretty much 100% chance. You can literally have a votemute/kick started on yourself and it will pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MCG-TiGeR T 0 #4 Posted July 19, 2010 99% of the time votes pass on the server because people mindlessly hit 1 which is Yes. People don't really care what the vote is about they just want it off there screen. Stop trying to defend yourself by saying people actually wanted him muted when you know for a fact that him being muted is a pretty much 100% chance. You can literally have a votemute/kick started on yourself and it will pass. no silly davep..its people are smarter then you think and can careless about whats on the screen..they care that yoor name is off the screen so they dont have to hear you mic spam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myelin 10 #5 Posted July 19, 2010 derp 57% votes YES to mute me 32 players were on the server 32/2 = 16 50% = 16 players if 57% voted YES, how did the other team hear me spamming the mic? please take this person's donor privs away for abuse. it really is annoying. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MCG-TiGeR T 0 #6 Posted July 19, 2010 derp 57% votes YES to mute me 32 players were on the server 32/2 = 16 50% = 16 players if 57% voted YES, how did the other team hear me spamming the mic? please take this person's donor privs away for abuse. it really is annoying. say what you want dude..i know what i did wrong witch was nothing..fact is im right and your wrong..you mic spam.disrespect players.start shit with other clans such as VM and dont know when to stop and wont ever learn..people know you mic spam because they have played with you before..memory isent something new thesedays Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davep 1 #7 Posted July 19, 2010 say what you want dude..i know what i did wrong witch was nothing..fact is im right and your wrong..you mic spam.disrespect players.start shit with other clans such as VM and dont know when to stop and wont ever learn..people know you mic spam because they have played with you before..memory isent something new thesedays rofl he just pointed out exactly that people don't know what they are voting for. [sarcasm]apparently 2 people from the opposing team have all talk enabled[/sarcasm] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myelin 10 #8 Posted July 19, 2010 something really needs to be done about this abuse. before Goldrush #2 was taken away, myself and others were able to go there to avoid this type of stituation. now that GR 2 is gone, we're playing much more on GR 1, where the VM guys primairly play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MCG-TiGeR T 0 #9 Posted July 19, 2010 something really needs to be done about this abuse. before Goldrush #2 was taken away, myself and others were able to go there to avoid this type of stituation. now that GR 2 is gone, we're playing much more on GR 1, where the VM guys primairly play. then its time to move on to other servers..no one likes team win guys there anyway..maybe get your own server rofl he just pointed out exactly that people don't know what they are voting for. [sarcasm]apparently 2 people from the opposing team have all talk enabled[/sarcasm] lmfao.i just pointed out how people REMEMBER you mic spam,and they do what know what there votting for because there not blind and brainless like you too,thats why you choose to do what you do..witch is why people vote to mute and kick you guys and also posting console sayings isent any proof..because of course your allways on your mic and have it shoved down ur throat and sit there yelling into it yelling RAPTEDED and what not..ha VM has a history of abusing donor commands..think of that on your own or did davep help you? and i pretty much PAY MY MONEY to mute people like you..witch one person wanting to ban someone cause they whine and get muted..Mana would care about the money more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davep 1 #10 Posted July 19, 2010 Jesus Christ, your stupidity is unbelievable. You are the only one casting the votes, everyone else mindlessly hits Yes. 57% (more then half the server) voted yes for a votemute, how are the other half of the server hearing someone on the opposing team? Do you understand? POST PROOF THAT YOU AREN'T ABUSING IT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONLY PROOF THAT YOU ARE. Also no one has a problem with Team Win only VM does because Team Win owns VM all the time, also Boom the guy you votekicked 6 times in a row with it failing everytime isn't from Team Win and I'm not also so get your facts straight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WunderNode 0 #11 Posted July 19, 2010 Hello, I am a regular player on the servers, and I frequently get multifrags, which seem to irritate the people on the receiving end. In good humor, I type to get myself kicked, but I know that this won't go through, since I don't have donator privileges. With only one person calling for this (myself), this action is easily disregarded. But, in the past few days, on the uncommon chance of this happening, Wolf J Flywheel has tried to do this as well. With more than just one person vouching for this, people think its' for a legitimate reason, so it's gotten as far as to the actual voting part. Vote lost. Another occasion, voteMUTE: lost. Even though these were failed attempts of abuse, there's still a chance of this becoming successful. Just take this into consideration for your final decision. Regards, Node Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krash 1,040 #12 Posted July 20, 2010 If you guys start flaming, Mana will just lock this and close the case. Keep it clean, stop acting like jerks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MCG-TiGeR T 0 #13 Posted July 20, 2010 Jesus Christ, your stupidity is unbelievable. You are the only one casting the votes, everyone else mindlessly hits Yes. 57% (more then half the server) voted yes for a votemute, how are the other half of the server hearing someone on the opposing team? Do you understand? POST PROOF THAT YOU AREN'T ABUSING IT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONLY PROOF THAT YOU ARE. Also no one has a problem with Team Win only VM does because Team Win owns VM all the time, also Boom the guy you votekicked 6 times in a row with it failing everytime isn't from Team Win and I'm not also so get your facts straight. lol just face it dude..people hit yes for a reason....and your still not getting the point..I WOULD STILL BE VOTEKICKING AND MUTING PEOPLE EVEN IF I DIDNT HAVE DONOR CAMMANDS and just because those votes fail doesent mean its abuse..jesus no wonder everyone hates TEAM WIN..there full of a bunch of retards Hello, I am a regular player on the servers, and I frequently get multifrags, which seem to irritate the people on the receiving end. In good humor, I type to get myself kicked, but I know that this won't go through, since I don't have donator privileges. With only one person calling for this (myself), this action is easily disregarded. But, in the past few days, on the uncommon chance of this happening, Wolf J Flywheel has tried to do this as well. With more than just one person vouching for this, people think its' for a legitimate reason, so it's gotten as far as to the actual voting part. Vote lost. Another occasion, voteMUTE: lost. Even though these were failed attempts of abuse, there's still a chance of this becoming successful. Just take this into consideration for your final decision. Regards, Node failed attemnt of abuse..you team win guys need to just quit life..hows it abuse if it fails..might as well just start wanting to ban every donor because there votes fail too..so lets start banning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davep 1 #14 Posted July 20, 2010 If Team Win is such a nuisance then record a demo of them mic spamming or being disruptive and then post it on the forums in the Ban Section, let the admins of the server deal with it. There's a message in the serve that directly says if someone is disrespecting the server bring up to the admins attention, don't take it upon yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MCG-TiGeR T 0 #15 Posted July 20, 2010 If Team Win is such a nuisance then record a demo of them mic spamming or being disruptive and then post it on the forums in the Ban Section, let the admins of the server deal with it. There's a message in the serve that directly says if someone is disrespecting the server bring up to the admins attention, don't take it upon yourself. [/quote they dont put votemute votekick or voteban in the donor cammands for no reason;) but nice try though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davep 1 #16 Posted July 20, 2010 If Team Win is such a nuisance then record a demo of them mic spamming or being disruptive and then post it on the forums in the Ban Section, let the admins of the server deal with it. There's a message in the serve that directly says if someone is disrespecting the server bring up to the admins attention, don't take it upon yourself. they dont put votemute votekick or voteban in the donor cammands for no reason;) but nice try though they give everyone the option to votemute, votekick or voteban. Donors can do it without 5 people requesting it, it's not there for you to abuse. Let the people who own the server deal with people instead of you taking it upon yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MCG-TiGeR T 0 #17 Posted July 20, 2010 they give everyone the option to votemute, votekick or voteban. Donors can do it without 5 people requesting it, it's not there for you to abuse. Let the people who own the server deal with people instead of you taking it upon yourself. lol wheres your proof of me spamming it 5 times then? all i see is console sayings of me muting noob myelin and some screen shot of the score board and lets just drop this thread..Mana allready got mad at the other one..so lets not make him mad about this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davep 1 #18 Posted July 20, 2010 lol wheres your proof of me spamming it 5 times then? all i see is console sayings of me muting noob myelin and some screen shot of the score board and lets just drop this thread..Mana allready got mad at the other one..so lets not make him mad about this one None of my screenshots have myelin in them, myelin posted his log of the console showing where you were abusing votemute against him for no reason. The screenshots that he quoted from me are of you attempting to votekick Boom twice and then me calling you out about it since I'd already made a thread on these forums a month ago stating you guys were abusing it and all I needed was the proof which you had just given me, then you proceeded to votemute me because I was calling you out on the matter and then I left. Boom 10minutes later informed me that you had attempted to votekick him 4 or 5 more times while I was gone, I don't have proof since I wasn't in the server and he believes Mana will not do anything about it. Also I will not drop it until you are banned from the server because you are a nuisance and it's getting more of a job to play on that server then actual fun when you are around. The reason it's like a job when you are on is because I feel the need to be ready to take screenshots of whenever you are abusing votekick or votemute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MCG-TiGeR T 0 #19 Posted July 20, 2010 None of my screenshots have myelin in them, myelin posted his log of the console showing where you were abusing votemute against him for no reason. The screenshots that he quoted from me are of you attempting to votekick Boom twice and then me calling you out about it since I'd already made a thread on these forums a month ago stating you guys were abusing it and all I needed was the proof which you had just given me, then you proceeded to votemute me because I was calling you out on the matter and then I left. Boom 10minutes later informed me that you had attempted to votekick him 4 or 5 more times while I was gone, I don't have proof since I wasn't in the server and he believes Mana will not do anything about it. Also I will not drop it until you are banned from the server because you are a nuisance and it's getting more of a job to play on that server then actual fun when you are around. The reason it's like a job when you are on is because I feel the need to be ready to take screenshots of whenever you are abusing votekick or votemute. ha seeing and telling are two different things dude..like i said you have no proof of me votekicking boom 6 times.and please show me where myelins log shows where im abusing..cause all im seeing is when everyone wanted him to be muted and how many fucking times are you noobs gonna say he wasent doing anything..i have NOTHING against myelin besides the fact that he yells and what not into his mic,that vote was started for a dam reason so get ur facts straight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davep 1 #20 Posted July 20, 2010 ha seeing and telling are two different things dude..like i said you have no proof of me votekicking boom 6 times.and please show me where myelins log shows where im abusing..cause all im seeing is when everyone wanted him to be muted I have proof of you doing it twice and it failing, that should be enough proof of your abuse. Also in myelins log you were spaming the server telling people to push Yes and then saying hahahaha after wards, which to me just shows that you were doing it out of spite and not because you wanted him muted for a reason. If you have an issue with someone MUTE THEM, don't call votes like it's your job. You are the only one on the server who calls votes which is why you are being accused of abusing your donor privileges in the first place, let other people call the votes if they are necessary. Esc->Mute Players->find name Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MCG-TiGeR T 0 #21 Posted July 20, 2010 I have proof of you doing it twice and it failing, that should be enough proof of your abuse. Also in myelins log you were spaming the server telling people to push Yes and then saying hahahaha after wards, which to me just shows that you were doing it out of spite and not because you wanted him muted for a reason. If you have an issue with someone MUTE THEM, don't call votes like it's your job. You are the only one on the server who calls votes which is why you are being accused of abusing your donor privileges in the first place, let other people call the votes if they are necessary. Esc->Mute Players->find name lol ounce again ur not getting the point..if Mana didnt want people to make votes he wouldent included votemute kick or ban with the donors,and 2 votes isent abuse dumb ass,get ur facts straight AGAIN, and me laughing at myelin is because while people voted YES he cusses me out and what not..so why not laugh at him and saying YES 6 times isent spam..its getting people to do the right thing and ounce again if you think votes that fail is abuse then start banning all the Donors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myelin 10 #22 Posted July 20, 2010 no need to argue with this person, davep. wait to see what the L folks have to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOOM=DYNAMITE 2 #23 Posted July 20, 2010 Ok... i didn't want to step in... but my name is being thrown around... so enough of this crap. Am I a jackass???? Of course! But it is all in good fun. A majority of the talking i do is at the end of the round ("OMG WHY IS BOOM SO GOOD") ... or complaining that my team is being idiots ( ie.5 snipers on offense when you can't move the cart!) That stuff pisses me off ! The only time I call people out is when they deserve it. Like WOLF! The initial reason for the bad blood against Wolf is that he exploits. He lays stickies at the first spawn in goldrush, and kills people before the round. On the 3rd level he lobs nades over the roof from the defensive spawn to where the first point is. I called him out about it and all he does is laugh and says "everybody does it" . Which is not true. Then wolf joins VM (the biggest stacking clan on the server) and starts to become even a bigger prick... now with the back-up of the rest of the vm clan. Then he gets donator powers... and starts to boot me every time he is on for no reason at all. Now I didn't ask Dave to do this... and there are other prominate players on the server who wanted me to help get Wolf banned.... but I was cool with just letting him be the punk he is... but now that this has started... and Wolf is calling me out... I have to step in. Wolf has no business on the server. He exploits, He stacks, and now he Vote Bans for no reason. You have seen the screenshots. Everyone knows I have issues with VM clan... but I really don't mind playing against them on the server. If you let this go with Wolf... then you will have a "TEAM WIN" problem on your hands. Take care of this now, teach people that they can't donate and act like a jerk. You know you have an issue when ANOTHER PLAYER was getting sick of the abuse and started all this. It wasn't sour grapes from me. Wolf is going to come back with some crap about everyone hating me... everyone wants me banned.. etc. Bring it! It has already been proven that isn't true. He tried 6 TIMES one round. It is getting old. Please do something. That is all BOOM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MCG-TiGeR T 0 #24 Posted July 20, 2010 Ok... i didn't want to step in... but my name is being thrown around... so enough of this crap. Am I a jackass???? Of course! But it is all in good fun. A majority of the talking i do is at the end of the round ("OMG WHY IS BOOM SO GOOD") ... or complaining that my team is being idiots ( ie.5 snipers on offense when you can't move the cart!) That stuff pisses me off ! The only time I call people out is when they deserve it. Like WOLF! The initial reason for the bad blood against Wolf is that he exploits. He lays stickies at the first spawn in goldrush, and kills people before the round. On the 3rd level he lobs nades over the roof from the defensive spawn to where the first point is. I called him out about it and all he does is laugh and says "everybody does it" . Which is not true. Then wolf joins VM (the biggest stacking clan on the server) and starts to become even a bigger prick... now with the back-up of the rest of the vm clan. Then he gets donator powers... and starts to boot me every time he is on for no reason at all. Now I didn't ask Dave to do this... and there are other prominate players on the server who wanted me to help get Wolf banned.... but I was cool with just letting him be the punk he is... but now that this has started... and Wolf is calling me out... I have to step in. Wolf has no business on the server. He exploits, He stacks, and now he Vote Bans for no reason. You have seen the screenshots. Everyone knows I have issues with VM clan... but I really don't mind playing against them on the server. If you let this go with Wolf... then you will have a "TEAM WIN" problem on your hands. Take care of this now, teach people that they can't donate and act like a jerk. You know you have an issue when ANOTHER PLAYER was getting sick of the abuse and started all this. It wasn't sour grapes from me. Wolf is going to come back with some crap about everyone hating me... everyone wants me banned.. etc. Bring it! It has already been proven that isn't true. He tried 6 TIMES one round. It is getting old. Please do something. That is all BOOM lol did u tell them about how you run your mouth and say negative things towrads VM after you kill them? nah you guys dont tell them any of the shit you do and boom get the fuck over the exploits,Valve allready knows,and guess what they still havent fixed it...and it has been proven that everyone wants you banned and kicked after other votes that have passed,and you guys really need to get over the fucking team stacking and ounce AGAIN there you guys go saying its for no reason,ha you make me wonna fall on the floor and laugh and all the screen shots are,are CONSOLE SAYINGS i would still be cussing the fuck outa u guys even with out donor commands and the only reason i cuss you guys out is if u start cussing at me,and boom didi you not tell him all the times TYLER DURDEN has voted to kick or ban for a reason of LULZ,nah you cant do that..you guys dont tell them all the shit you guys do,only shit other people do,ALSO you guys gonna go name by name ov all the other people that do EXPLOITS LIKE JUG OR DUBEY OR FLYTHIS BOAT,nah you cant do that either and yea it is true,everyone does what i do and i do what everyone does,demo spam attics,wall glitches,you have done your share of them to BOOM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOOM=DYNAMITE 2 #25 Posted July 20, 2010 This post says it all. Please Mana. Do the right thing. 1- Yes I said I talk crap. I admit to not liking VM because all they do is stack teams. VM has it's own server... but continues to get on lotus... move all players to the same team... and then kick people they don't like. ("you guys really need to get over the fucking team stacking " - wolf) Everything I say is done in fun, or has a purpose. Like saying VM stacks, or complaining a team has to many snipers. I never attack someone personally for no reason at all like you and the rest of the VM guys. 2- You just admitted to exploiting. No I don't need to. I'm good enough of a player to not need to kill people before the round starts... or lobbing grenades over the roof. So nice try. 3- You tried booting me 6 times once. Nobody was voting for it. So you just kept trying because you think you are funny. Yes, Tyler Durden has been doing it lately as well. This isn't about him, this is about you. Don't pretend like you haven't. I don't really care about him. 4- "Are CONSOLE SAYINGS i would still be cussing the fuck outa u guys even with out donor commands " I don't even know what that means.... but I think you are admitting that you'd be cussing at everyone no matter what. So even if mana just takes away your privelages of votekick/voteban.... you will still be starting stuff with everyone. Enough said. Once again. I did not start this wolf. Your beef is not with me about the ban... so leave me out of it. I just came on here to give my side, and tell Mana that I did not ask Dave to start this. He did it because he was sick and tired of the VM abuse, especially from Wolf . I hope something is done... but i'm afraid nothing will be. That is all. BOOM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites