Ban Request [-Vm-] Wolf J Flywheel

[Rolooooooooo 2]

ok here before this goes off topic. some things u should know. On most Lotus servers all the clans will stack or stay together donator or non donator. That's just how it is. It's not breaking Mana's server rules if clans want to stay on the same team. That's fine if u dont want to use the exploits or not because it's not against the rules of Mana's servers. Sure, it's cheap and not very skillful but this is a public server and it's not breaking any rules, so people need to deal with it the best they can. Now back to the topic. Why u want wolf j fllywheel ban for donator abuse or is it being a douche? Please make it clear and keep giving facts

[davep 1]

ok here before this goes off topic. some things u should know. On most Lotus servers all the clans will stack or stay together donator or non donator. That's just how it is. It's not breaking Mana's server rules if clans want to stay on the same team. That's fine if u dont want to use the exploits or not because it's not against the rules of Mana's servers. Sure, it's cheap and not very skillful but this is a public server and it's not breaking any rules, so people need to deal with it the best they can. Now back to the topic. Why u want wolf j fllywheel ban for donator abuse or is it being a douche? Please make it clear and keep giving facts

We want him off the server for both being a douche and donator abuse, the two sort of go hand in hand. Like you said there are no rules but he takes it upon himself as being a donator to make up his own and start kicking or muting people for no reason. You probably know as many do whenever a vote gets randomly popped up people don't ask why they just push yes, it's a little hard to find out why a vote is going when the chat is spammed with the yes and no replies. The best way to fix the issue is to remove the way donors can just call up votes whenever they want and make it so they have to do it like everyone else, 5 people need to do it. Unfortunately with the way VM rolls that won't exactly fix the problem since usually when one of them is in the server 4 or more are also in there. So another thing to include into that is to reverse the vote options with Yes being 2 and No being 1, I already asked Mana this but he said that he had tried it and it didn't seem to matter.

[-MCG-TiGeR T 0]

ok here before this goes off topic. some things u should know. On most Lotus servers all the clans will stack or stay together donator or non donator. That's just how it is. It's not breaking Mana's server rules if clans want to stay on the same team. That's fine if u dont want to use the exploits or not because it's not against the rules of Mana's servers. Sure, it's cheap and not very skillful but this is a public server and it's not breaking any rules, so people need to deal with it the best they can. Now back to the topic. Why u want wolf j fllywheel ban for donator abuse or is it being a douche? Please make it clear and keep giving facts

im done with this thread...I exploit,get over it,i only do demo wall glitches. who doesent.i kick mute or vote to ban people for a reason..i be a dick to people who are being a dick to me..and if they keep on being a dick then ill vote to kick them or mute them..thats what i do..so if you dont like it..oh well..yes VM stacks get over it..yes we will want to boot someone if they are being a dick to us..oh well,and the oh wells arnt being directed towards Mana or ne of the admins

[WunderNode 0]

Keep [-VM-] out of this. We're not calling out the clan itself, since that story waits to be written.

Exploits, big whoop, people do it. But abusing donor privileges isn't right. A one-man concensus isn't exactly very rational now, is it?

Personally, I don't want to see you get banned, I just want to see you clean up your act, and quit abusing privileges, either by self-control or admins removing it.

Regards,

- Node

[-MCG-TiGeR T 0]

Keep [-VM-] out of this. We're not calling out the clan itself, since that story waits to be written.

Exploits, big whoop, people do it. But abusing donor privileges isn't right. A one-man concensus isn't exactly very rational now, is it?

Personally, I don't want to see you get banned, I just want to see you clean up your act, and quit abusing privileges, either by self-control or admins removing it.

Regards,

- Node

i have a cleaned up act..other people need to clean theres..and id like to resolve this..but other people im sure dont want too

[davep 1]

i have a cleaned up act..other people need to clean theres..and id like to resolve this..but other people im sure dont want too

ignore it, don't take it upon yourself to votekick/votemute people. if someone is spamming the mic ask them nicely to stop and if they refuse just mute them on your end or record a demo of there mic spam and do what myelin did and request them to be banned with a demo and steamid. I'm with Node on this I don't want people to be banned from the server but if it continues the way it has then I seriously wouldn't care. Also if Mana ends up looking at this and decides to ban you I will not have any sympathy.

[-MCG-TiGeR T 0]

ignore it, don't take it upon yourself to votekick/votemute people. if someone is spamming the mic ask them nicely to stop and if they refuse just mute them on your end or record a demo of there mic spam and do what myelin did and request them to be banned with a demo and steamid. I'm with Node on this I don't want people to be banned from the server but if it continues the way it has then I seriously wouldn't care. Also if Mana ends up looking at this and decides to ban you I will not have any sympathy.

myelin doesent even have a demo..all he has in a screen shot of the console..and i have asked many people to stop what there doing..such as mic spam or general being disruptive..but when i see about 3 votes of the same person being disruptive..and its not that joking around votes..then i will simple cast a vote

[myelin 10]

here is the take-home message from this situation.

it's fun to abuse power. most of us have done it at some point in our lives. however, you must be willing to suffer the consequences of your actions if this is how you choose to behave.

next time, if i am really getting on your nerves, politely send a message in text, "hey myelin, you are being really loud and i don't like it. would you mind toning it down a bit?"

i would have been more than happy to had you asked. perhaps you should also do the same with others instead of immediately initiating vote kicks/mutes. some people don't know that they are being annoying. others do and just don't care. if you ask first, you can avoid a situation like this one. you ask, they stop, and there's no need for a vote. you ask, they tell you to fuck off, then you have more of a right. are we clear?

[-MCG-TiGeR T 0]

here is the take-home message from this situation.

it's fun to abuse power. most of us have done it at some point in our lives. however, you must be willing to suffer the consequences of your actions if this is how you choose to behave.

next time, if i am really getting on your nerves, politely send a message in text, "hey myelin, you are being really loud and i don't like it. would you mind toning it down a bit?"

i would have been more than happy to had you asked. perhaps you should also do the same with others instead of immediately initiating vote kicks/mutes. some people don't know that they are being annoying. others do and just don't care. if you ask first, you can avoid a situation like this one. you ask, they stop, and there's no need for a vote. you ask, they tell you to fuck off, then you have more of a right. are we clear?

we have been clear..but most of the time iv asked people..and of course they denie there being loud or what ever..then you got the whole team yelling at you..but other then that were clear

[Brokkoly 11]

tiger, based on your spelling it is ovbious that you are some 12 year old who is trying to get power on the internet. Trolling probably makes you feel even more powerful. Go get a life and stop starting flame wars. To everyone else who keeps getting in these arguments, if you ignore him, he can't bug you. so davep, record a demo of this, get a long one with lots of proof, and then post it. Until then i'm gonna go ask mana to lock this thread.

[Josh 18]

*Banned*

Make a demo next time please, it's a lot easier than me going through chat logs.

[davep 1]

Thank you, unfortunately recording a demo for something like this is very hard unless you want to download a 90meg demo the abuse was pretty sporadic so I'd literally have to join the server and play for my usual 2hrs or so to hope and catch him or anyone abusing. Thanks again.

[-MCG-TiGeR T 0]

tiger, based on your spelling it is ovbious that you are some 12 year old who is trying to get power on the internet. Trolling probably makes you feel even more powerful. Go get a life and stop starting flame wars. To everyone else who keeps getting in these arguments, if you ignore him, he can't bug you. so davep, record a demo of this, get a long one with lots of proof, and then post it. Until then i'm gonna go ask mana to lock this thread.

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my spelling is fine..thats how people spell things these days..im not starting anything..im tryng to resolve things..

[myelin 10]

Thank you, Josh. I hope this sends a message to the other donors who frequently spam votes for no good reason.

[Deadeye 0]

Thank you, Josh. I hope this sends a message to the other donors who frequently spam votes for no good reason.

lol like the ones in Team Win who do the same thing...

[davep 1]

lol like the ones in Team Win who do the same thing...

record a demo or ss it and request a ban like myelin and me did

[JerryCantrell 1]

here is the take-home message from this situation.

it's fun to abuse power. most of us have done it at some point in our lives. however, you must be willing to suffer the consequences of your actions if this is how you choose to behave.

next time, if i am really getting on your nerves, politely send a message in text, "hey myelin, you are being really loud and i don't like it. would you mind toning it down a bit?"

i would have been more than happy to had you asked. perhaps you should also do the same with others instead of immediately initiating vote kicks/mutes. some people don't know that they are being annoying. others do and just don't care. if you ask first, you can avoid a situation like this one. you ask, they stop, and there's no need for a vote. you ask, they tell you to fuck off, then you have more of a right. are we clear?

Yes and no. Think about it. If you are mic spamming and someone vote mutes you, thats a clue that they want you to shut up. After that, then yes its just votespamming (but if you're continuing to micspam, then you're equally to blame). But isn't this just the pot calling the kettle black in a way? This is all stupid and pathetic bullshit in the end. People whine and cry all the time about the most retarded shit. Wah, VM stacks. VM is one of the largest clans to play on the VM servers. If quite a few of us log onto a server, we're gonna end up with a shitload of us on the same team. Not to mention no one ever brings up when a 32 slot server has 20 or so VM on it and then you can't all be on the same team. Damn that math shit. And along the lines with the pot calling the kettle black, people team switch and stack ALL THE TIME. Why is it just because we have a VM tag? What if we ALL removed our tags and then just all got on the same team? oh shit what a terrible thought.

This is all coffee house bullshit. Wolf abused his donator privileges and got what he deserved. Shit happens.

[myelin 10]

votemute JerryCantrell

[The =G= 0]

I have proof of you doing it twice and it failing, that should be enough proof of your abuse. Also in myelins log you were spaming the server telling people to push Yes and then saying hahahaha after wards, which to me just shows that you were doing it out of spite and not because you wanted him muted for a reason.

If you have an issue with someone MUTE THEM, don't call votes like it's your job. You are the only one on the server who calls votes which is why you are being accused of abusing your donor privileges in the first place, let other people call the votes if they are necessary. Esc->Mute Players->find name

I saw [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel doing that several times to different players and insulting them aswell dunno why lotus clan ppl dont ban him forever its a shame.

I saw [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel doing that several times to different players and insulting them aswell dunno why lotus clan ppl dont ban him forever its a shame.

btw If lotus admins dont do nothing ppl avoid lotus servers there are houndreds of tf2 servers why loose your time.

[Wolf J FlyWheel 2]

I saw [-VM-] Wolf J FlyWheel doing that several times to different players and insulting them aswell dunno why lotus clan ppl dont ban him forever its a shame.

btw If lotus admins dont do nothing ppl avoid lotus servers there are houndreds of tf2 servers why loose your time.

saw me doing what?? playing TF2? Trading people? and if your getting this stuff from the trade server your out of luck because there were mic spammers there..and needed to be muted