Zephyr 14 #1 Posted October 5, 2010 Mana, Would you consider changing the auto scramble settings on Stocks 4? Most of the time it scrambles too quickly and the teams are just as unbalanced as they were beforehand. It doesn't give me (or others) a chance to change teams to try to even things up. Is it possible to base the scramble on time? If nothing else, please set it to 3 rather than 2. I'd also like to ask to have the original payload cart back... but I don't have high hopes about this request. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Areola 0 #2 Posted October 5, 2010 I can agree with the payload thing. As far as teams go, I vary from top to bottom... so I can't say much for that. I will say, though, that I have been autoed twice in the same map. Damn thing needs to make up it's mind! I thought about it... a Thomas the Tank Engine would be bomb to push =D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krash 1,040 #3 Posted October 5, 2010 The new autoscramble is a valve plugin (I believe). Mana has ways of disabling it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 3,867 #4 Posted October 6, 2010 Mana, Would you consider changing the auto scramble settings on Stocks 4? Most of the time it scrambles too quickly and the teams are just as unbalanced as they were beforehand. It doesn't give me (or others) a chance to change teams to try to even things up. Is it possible to base the scramble on time? If nothing else, please set it to 3 rather than 2. I'd also like to ask to have the original payload cart back... but I don't have high hopes about this request. Thanks! Valve enabled this by default, if it was disabled by default you wouldn't even see it. In any case, I am considering what I will be doing about this. Current issues are: Autoscramble might be good, but on servers that have a few donors it might be a bit problematic. Due to them switching back immediately after autobalance and thus unbalancing the teams temporarily. Either it will be disabled completely or donors will get immunity. But for now I wanna see if the autoscramble is having a good effect on the servers or not. Don't expect it to change much until the end of this week. Mostly because if it truly is a problem (with the default being after 2 rounds), then people will also complain on steam forums and Valve will adjust the defaults for everyone . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zephyr 14 #5 Posted October 6, 2010 I'm glad you're thinking about this. Between those two options, I'd personally rather see it disabled. When the balance was bad on Stocks 4 before this update, there was rarely a problem in getting enough votes to scramble. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Areola 0 #6 Posted October 7, 2010 I'm glad you're thinking about this. Between those two options, I'd personally rather see it disabled. When the balance was bad on Stocks 4 before this update, there was rarely a problem in getting enough votes to scramble. Sometimes a bit too jumpy to scramble. There *usually* isn't too much of a problem on S4, because top players will frequently move to help out the losing team. Can't say whether or not it is the same across the community. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 3,867 #7 Posted October 7, 2010 Donors now have scramble immunity as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zephyr 14 #8 Posted October 13, 2010 After playing with these setting for awhile, I can say that it still scrambles too quickly on most maps. Also, donators having immunity does very little to balance the teams. The way you had it set up before this update was just fine - leave the players decide when to scramble. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 3,867 #9 Posted October 13, 2010 After playing with these setting for awhile, I can say that it still scrambles too quickly on most maps. Also, donators having immunity does very little to balance the teams. The way you had it set up before this update was just fine - leave the players decide when to scramble. But Valve has deemed fit to force upon a default of 2 wins before scramble, surely they know what they are doing . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zephyr 14 #10 Posted October 26, 2010 After playing even longer with the current scramble settings, I can say that it rarely helps. More often than fixing the problem, it makes it worse. Please leave team scrambles up to the players. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrkEagle 15 #11 Posted October 26, 2010 Also, donators having immunity does very little to balance the teams. I dunno, I play on Stock 3 West Coast though, but I think from the recent major updates, I seem to be getting auto'd as donator. Probably made the plugin no longer work or something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EliBarracuda 0 #12 Posted November 4, 2010 After playing even longer with the current scramble settings, I can say that it rarely helps. More often than fixing the problem, it makes it worse. Please leave team scrambles up to the players. I cannot agree more with this. Please do something about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gRaider2001 0 #13 Posted November 4, 2010 I cannot agree more with this. Please do something about it. Can u also change stock 4 to the regular rotation. I mean u already did it for stock 2....sooooo..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites