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[Mr Tumnus 1]

depends on the AI youre playin and on the difficulty its set

[{Dark}BerZerKer 0]

u know i played a 2 v 2 today. we never rushed. although my ally continoually sent a unit or 2 to harrass the enemy. soon a big battle ensued, it was electrifying with both sides suffering heavy losses. screaming, taunting, battle gears turning off and off. yin and yang rolling in.

in that map, we had scattered battles and skirmishes all over the map with each member trying new things and tactics. it was an excellent match and i was proud to be part of it.

why can't it just be like that. instead of a stupid 5 minute game where nothing is accomplished.

why rush anyway. there is no ladder or table to show ranks, so who cares if you lose. i dnt care if i lose so long as its not to a stupid rush consisting of 5 muskets with sniper scope or a bunch of swordsmen./

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

You call me immature and you are going around calling people monkeys?!..pathetic.

[{Dark}BerZerKer 0]

You call me immature and you are going around calling people monkeys?!..pathetic.

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oh please. ur so arrogant. just because you've played the game a long time and you've beaten alot of people don't mean u know best.

ur not the decision maker or the top dog who runs thingz. people have views and i'm expressing one of them.

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

I didn't say that I was the top dog. And you are completely bashing people who like fast games. Many people play long games, you just happen to join the rush games. Join the german games on center ring, they play long games.

[Mr Tumnus 1]

u know i played a 2 v 2 today.  we never rushed.  although my ally continoually sent a unit or 2 to harrass the enemy.  soon a big battle ensued, it was electrifying with both sides suffering heavy losses.  screaming, taunting, battle gears turning off and off.  yin and yang rolling in.

in that map, we had scattered battles and skirmishes all over the map with each member trying new things and tactics.  it was an excellent match and i was proud to be part of it.

why can't it just be like that.  instead of a stupid 5 minute game where nothing is accomplished.

why rush anyway.  there is no ladder or table to show ranks, so who cares if you lose.  i dnt care if i lose so long as its not to a stupid rush consisting of 5 muskets with sniper scope or a bunch of swordsmen./

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Well, what I dislike is that you have to do for a long time nuthin than making an army and that is very boring, I like to fight all the time and that's why I prefer rushing. When I get rushed do my best to defend and so a long game starts, but that doesn't mean camping, that means just that while the attacker runs back to his army both sides make better units and bg and then the defender attacks as fast as possible. thats very hard to do and thats what i like in the game.

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

Exactly, I hate waiting 40 minutes for a top-notch army to emerge.

[{Dark}BerZerKer 0]

Exactly, I hate waiting 40 minutes for a top-notch army to emerge.

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only a noob with say that.

a real expert would create well rounded 'platoons' (backed up by at leaste 2 geisha/channeler) with correct battlegears and send them in stragetically - and i don't mean just throwing them against the enemy. meanwhile, he must also make sure he has enough peasant huts to keep pumping out peasants to compensate for losses (i usually build 12). that way, he can keep attacking every minute in groups of about 5-8 units.

although i don't do this alot, victory is nigh if u do. cuz while the enemy is constanlty trying to build up a big army to supposedly massacre you, you on the other hand are slowly wittling him down. and with added heroes/zombies/spirits/brothers/dragon spirit where can you go wrong?

this game was not designed to be a 5 minute rush fest, other wise the designers wouldn't have bothered putting alchemy, battle gears and other miscalleaneuos such as hieght elevations and woodland.

i mean, how can u after only starting a game, rush to build a watchtower on the enemys rice patch. then put a peasent in and call lighting or stun? thats just unfair to the point of absolutly bullshitting the concept of the game.

[Mr Tumnus 1]

Berzerker, I would really like now to try out if you're right.

When it comes to late game I try to build as many huts as possible so even if I lose a unit it comes out as a peasent and gets trained so I can use it as reinforcement or as defense if I become crushed..

Well but the point is it sounds like camping. You build only mass range and twoers and a few melee and then when you lose your nerves you are like "damn him" and attack.

Well although I think you don't play like that we should play once 1on1 Berzerker

[Jdeks 0]

Beserker, you play like my brother.

He spends the first 30 mins of gametime making a perfectly neat city with perfectly even, organised "squads" of units, relying on allies to protect him. Its almost like hes pretending to be some mythical medieval King. If he gets hit at any time whilst he prepares, he restarts the game. He also refuses to play online. 3 guesses why...

Rushing is a part of this game, its not cheating, so dont cry foul when someone trys to rush you. Its not that hard to overcome anyway, and games often settle down into stalemates after a rush collapses. You got rushed by 10 swords in 1 min? Then use this opportunity for your allies to rape their unprotected base as you retreat your peasants. Better yet, wise up when you see a serpent enemy and realise the high probability of a rush (thats what serpent are good at, after all), and get a counter rush plan ready. Play as wolf, and make druidess and maulers and packmasters, or something.

You want to be a master general? The you should realise that being prepared for a blitz is more important than having "well rounded 'platoons' (backed up by at leaste 2 geisha/channeler) with correct battlegears"

I'm quite positive that you'll say "thats a typcial response of a rushing noob", but answer me this question. Who's more of a n00b; someone who crys "foul play! Unfair!" when he's beaten by a tactic he cant top, or someone who learns from that loss, adds it to his tactic library and works on it.

You remind me of the people who cry out "HAX" when you kill them in Call of Duty or CS, or the people in BR who name their games "NO RUSH OR BAN!!!!111" and quit if they see your army in the 1st 5 mins of gameplay.

[{Dark}BerZerKer 0]

no more talk

[Mr Tumnus 1]

I'm sure with Berzerker's expirience he can defeat rush, but he doesn't want to play like that. For him it is NOT in winning, for him it is in the game itself, playing it with delight.

Several years ago I had a good friend at BR who has always been my ally in 2vs2 and he was far better than me, but when we once had 1on1 he wanted to play like Berzerker, but I, fool I was, rushed him. I won but he was obviously better than me. Well, I still don't get it yet what can be fun about it, but I'd like to try it out

[Mana 3,867]

Well this is as off topic as you can get on the announcements.. Will clean it up later.

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

I agree with jdeks. Couldn't have said it better.

[Mr Tumnus 1]

Well this is as off topic as you can get on the announcements.. Will clean it up later.

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You might see that there are many topics in this forum which are off topic, much work is awaiting...

[{Dark}BerZerKer 0]

I agree with jdeks.  Couldn't have said it better.

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yea well u wouldn't have sed it anyway.

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

i think if u dont now how do defend your self from rusher like me and wolfbite or anyone u are not a good player if u dont want to rush defent ur base. i dont now how come you in our clan every dark has to learn to rush and defend their self

[{Dark}CoolGuy 1]

Damn it just make a tower and conture a rush and if you are not good in long game to then you really need to learn how to play.

[Jdeks 0]

Orright fellas, lets lay of Bezerker now, I think we've made our point.

[{Dark}BerZerKer 0]

i think if u dont now how do defend your self from rusher like me and wolfbite or anyone u are not a good player if u dont want to rush defent ur base. i dont now how come you in our clan every dark has to learn to rush and defend their self

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if u don't want me in 'your' clan, come and boot me out, if i don't like rushing rushing, then its got nuffin to do with you. in fact, i'm punishing myself by learning how to rush, and i've found that i am an adequate rusher when playing as wolf clan.

so don't chat shit. and if u cna't speak complete sentences, don't talk at all.

fucking spanish :angry: .

comprende ese?

[Mr Tumnus 1]

Hmm

I've noticed 2 facts about this thread:

1. It's totally off topic^^

2. It's useless arguing. Wolfbite and his fellows will always be like "you're stupid when you can't defend yourself from rushing" and berzerker will always be like "youre stupid cause youre rsuhing"

this leads a long line along that has no end at all so I think we should just stop it right now and not comment it at all.

[{Dark}BerZerKer 0]

nice

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

if u don't want me in 'your' clan, come and boot me out, if i don't like rushing rushing, then its got nuffin to do with you.  in fact, i'm punishing myself by learning how to rush, and i've found that i am an adequate rusher when playing as wolf clan.

so don't chat shit.  and if u cna't speak complete sentences, don't talk at all.

fucking spanish :angry: . 

comprende ese?

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if u need a rushing teachear just tell me i will teach u how to rush with any clan i will give some teaching :shuriken:

[{Dark}BerZerKer 0]

if u need a rushing teachear just tell me i will teach u how to rush with any clan  i will give some teaching :shuriken:

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thats all u needed to say. i've bin learning with wolf, and i almost beat olwakandi with a bunch of maulers and driss.

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

thats good i think you getting good but will be in long time that you will beat olw he was my old clan mate when we where the ][kimi[ clan but i think u need to get good micro i hope u keep learning because i have beat him alot..