Ban Request - Vm Hirogen

[BOOM=DYNAMITE 2]

Ok... Gettin sick and tired of this... so I guess I'll try and do something about it.

After the ban of VM Wolf, the VM clan is after me. Each and every time I join the server they all start votekicks and votebans against me. It is pretty funny! Usually they don't get enough votes to start, or if they do, it doesn't pass. Today it did pass. As you can see from the screen shots, they do it for no reason. I ask why, and I get no response. Obviously the Ban of Wolf did nothing to deter the VM clan from coming on and starting crap for no reason. Hopefully something will be done about this. Maybe a "team win" type ban . If not, at least a full ban of Hirogen the leader of the clan.

As it is well documented.... I DID NOT START the wolf ban. This time, I'm not standing by just taking the crap from these guys. Their transgressions are well documented, no need to go in to them here.

Inevitably, they will try to turn this back on me. Saying i'm a jerk, always starting shit, and so on and so forth. This all goes back to them exploiting and stacking. They show up at certain times, and try to take over one team. If that's the reason... then so be it. I stand by the crap I talk to them when they act like that.

There are some good VM guys... some are my friends. There are a few bad apples, and something needs to be done.

Thanks for the time. If you need anything else.... let me know!

BOOM

[davep 1]

Here's the status screenshot. It's [-VM-] Hirogen *c7 he's in the bottom middle of the status

[Krash 1,040]

Judging by the fact that 2 of you posted evidence, these guys are widely known as cock holes. If you got votebanned, its probably allready over, theyre for 30 minutes. I would provide Steam ID's of all the 'bad apples' or else mana will just ban everyone with the tag. Good luck!

[Creampuffyness 2]

At least 2 of the votes to initiate the votekick were Team win, your screenshots don't show who #5 was. We didn't "show up at certain times, and try to take over one team" and then start random shit. Why not ban everyone who voted for passing the votekick then?

[Hirogen 1]

I can't believe I actually had to register to discuss this. Sounds like a lot of wahhh nobody wants to play with me.

So I was 1 person of 5 who voted to kick you, that's just to START a vote. The ENTIRE server voted to kick you boom. Why should I be banned because THE ENTIRE server actually voted and you got kicked. Lets face it, you troll and spam macros there all night long. "WHY IS BOOM SO PROOOO OMG ALL BOOM". Nobody wants to hear it why do you think they vote to kick you.

This is a silly request, I was one person who voted to START a vote. The entire server voted and you got kicked, stop being an ass and come have a good time with the rest of us.

[-MCG-TiGeR T 0]

Ok... Gettin sick and tired of this... so I guess I'll try and do something about it.

After the ban of VM Wolf, the VM clan is after me. Each and every time I join the server they all start votekicks and votebans against me. It is pretty funny! Usually they don't get enough votes to start, or if they do, it doesn't pass. Today it did pass. As you can see from the screen shots, they do it for no reason. I ask why, and I get no response. Obviously the Ban of Wolf did nothing to deter the VM clan from coming on and starting crap for no reason. Hopefully something will be done about this. Maybe a "team win" type ban . If not, at least a full ban of Hirogen the leader of the clan.

As it is well documented.... I DID NOT START the wolf ban. This time, I'm not standing by just taking the crap from these guys. Their transgressions are well documented, no need to go in to them here.

Inevitably, they will try to turn this back on me. Saying i'm a jerk, always starting shit, and so on and so forth. This all goes back to them exploiting and stacking. They show up at certain times, and try to take over one team. If that's the reason... then so be it. I stand by the crap I talk to them when they act like that.

There are some good VM guys... some are my friends. There are a few bad apples, and something needs to be done.

Thanks for the time. If you need anything else.... let me know!

BOOM

Ok,we all know VM stacks..oh well..and alot more people then VM exploit on that server boom..such as DUBEY JUG FLYTHISBOAT..its not just us...and on my ban..he said to make a demo...and boom we have all started crap with people on that server..and a voteban is only 30 min..thats nothing

[JerryCantrell 1]

Yes, we troll the hell out of Boom. Why not though? He cries about us the second any of us join the server, trolling us. Boo hoo. "Why is Boom so VM stack" etc. etc. No one really cares, so from time to time yes, we'll go after boom. I can't account for any recent events as I am not currently playing due to graphics issues. But Boom, why are you all butt hurt? You troll us (and others) constantly and you expect nothing in return? And you know we'll come back at you. You even said, in the other topic, that you troll all the time. Always whining (yes, I also realize this is more troll than crying) about stacking and then use the excuse that "This team has to many snipers" and team switch. We all know what you're doing and guess what, no one gives a rats ass. You're just crying for attention and trying to get any competition for trolling off the server. Yes, you may accomplish getting people banned but in reality, you're just lowering the level of play on the server so that you can dominate more. Thats all this comes down to, you're a little butt hurt that people are trolling you and harassing you even though you have no issues doing it in the reverse. Of course anyone complaining are going to be golden children, but in the past all these people who complain start votekicks for no reason, or votebans. I've been kicked because of a votekick started by boom because I switched teams. Do you see a post here? Nope. Some of you should try playing on the mixed maps with Phantom. Rage switch and he'll (plus the rest of the server) will boot your ass immediately.

[Hirogen 1]

Let me be perfectly clear here, I NEVER ever endorse any of my guys to exploit, that includes gates, stickies on walls, etc. I will be the first one upset when a pyro exploits floors. I never endorse exploiting, yes its part of the game but it's lame and not necessary if you are a good player.

As far as stacking goes, yea if I had a rough day at work I want my bud to go medic and uber me into an attic to clear that shit out. Who cares if we both have tags on. I want to play with my guys who communicate and want to coordinate some attacks.

[-MCG-TiGeR T 0]

hmm

[MasterChief 0]

Boom, I normally come on lotus to have fun playing TF2 with everyone, and i'm on enough to know a lot of the people there. You are a decent guy to play with when u want to, but like Crytek, you do end up spamming unnecessarily and I still don't understand what do people who do it get from it. I do agree with Hirogen that he only started the voteban and it's not like we just met you and we said "Let's pick on this guy", but having people come on and just spam for no reason (I know winning a round is a lot of fun and then its alright once in a while) on multiple occassions really gets annoying for those who are regulars on the server. Now we might be the guys who voice are annoyance when the spamming is rampant and the trash talking gets to an extent that no ones enjoys the game, but then everyone who gets banned due to a vote passing would complain saying that "I don't see why I was banned, they all picked on me." It got to a point, people were fed up with the actions you keep doing and hence didn't answer you, since you refuse to try and accommodate for everyone else on the server. We don't get a rush by voting to ban people, we know there are some on the server who do it just for some random, unknown fun, but we enjoy playing TF2 with everyone (obviously except for those who try to play outside of the norms, and make it hard to keep it as a 'team' game)

[Chogunson 0]

Pretty sure at one point Boom tried to join VM, infact was done via PM....and when told he wasnt wanted, all the trolling began.

thank you come again

[Dark Inferno 0]

Boom, if you spend more time playing with others as a team and less time trolling, the scores would show who is doing most for the team and people might actually like you. As far as votekicking, it is a VOTE kick! 70% of the server has to want you gone! What you gonna do, have them all banned? As far as "stacking"... Just because a bunch of people have the same tags, does not make them grate. If you have problem with stacking and want to even out the teams, have your friends join your team and show others how its done.

[Rolooooooooo 2]

again. alright just to make things clear again! Boom is not saying to ban this fool for team stacking. Boom wants the person that abused his donator privileges to be ban because he got votekick or voteban for no reason.

[Creampuffyness 2]

I would say that it is pretty well known the Boom is a known troll and rubs people the wrong way. People will eventually get sick of it and want to leave it to the votes to get him out. He's bringing this upon himself and the other people who votes yes are showing that.

[-MCG-TiGeR T 0]

again. alright just to make things clear again! Boom is not saying to ban this fool for team stacking. Boom wants the person that abused his donator privileges to be ban because he got votekick or voteban for no reason.

i like how you say...no reason..when really there is one

[Creampuffyness 2]

again. alright just to make things clear again! Boom is not saying to ban this fool for team stacking. Boom wants the person that abused his donator privileges to be ban because he got votekick or voteban for no reason.

Please check your own clarification. Hirogen doesn't have donation privileges.

[Rolooooooooo 2]

hmmm

I can already see the bad blood here. How about I join 1 of your games and see how everyone plays? sounds nice? It's obvious people don't like each other because of verbal abuse or bad sportsmenship. Before anyone( especially vm, boom, teamwin, etc) gets ban or worse not play at all, let's try to find some reasoning and understanding.

p.s. am on neither side

[Brokkoly 11]

@everyone complaining about VM Get demos and steam ids and @ everyone from VM, you do realize that if you keep doing this and then start flame wars when someone posts evidence, mana will ban the entire clan.

[-MCG-TiGeR T 0]

@everyone complaining about VM Get demos and steam ids and @ everyone from VM, you do realize that if you keep doing this and then start flame wars when someone posts evidence, mana will ban the entire clan.

how is that Evidence..those ae console snapshots of when he started the vote..they could have been taken days apart from each other for all we know

[Hirogen 1]

That's precisely right tiger, I admit I voted once last night. The other pictures are from other times, if he says otherwise its an outright lie. In fact, the second picture I don't even see myself voting in the log... What I did see was a few pub (non VM) players saying "bye bye" as he was being kicked. Stop singling me out Boom.

Brokkoly, if we keep doing what "stuff"? Am I not entitled to a vote like everybody else? I don't see any flaming, I'm allowed to explain the other side of the story.

I am not currently a donator, I am 1 person. It takes 5 to start a vote THEN the entire server voted to kick him, why am I being singled out?

Whoever suggested someone signing on "undercover" I hope you decide to do so. We come on to have a good time like everyone else and I know you will find some coordination and plenty of frags.

[.Switch 0]

Come on Boom. Are you really posting a ban request because 5 non-donators started a votekick against you yesterday? I voted against kicking you but thought to myself "what comes around goes around". You're a good player and I like having you as a teammate but your constant chat spam and complaining about other players' class choices or inexperience was bound to come back around some time. That's why the vote system is in place. If the players don't want you around for whatever reason, they vote to kick you. Just try another server for a bit and let things cool down instead of coming in here and posting complaints about how you think VM or Team Win doesn't like you. Honestly, what do you expect Lotus to do about it? Its nothing personal so don't take it that way.

[myelin 10]

i can't take your side here, boom. you do spam the chat every time we play. single comments are tolerable, but you bind these silly things and post them over and over again. it was funny about 6 months ago

[dubey 1]

I disagree. Chat spam will always be funny.

[-MCG-TiGeR T 0]

That's precisely right tiger, I admit I voted once last night. The other pictures are from other times, if he says otherwise its an outright lie. In fact, the second picture I don't even see myself voting in the log... What I did see was a few pub (non VM) players saying "bye bye" as he was being kicked. Stop singling me out Boom.

Brokkoly, if we keep doing what "stuff"? Am I not entitled to a vote like everybody else? I don't see any flaming, I'm allowed to explain the other side of the story.

I am not currently a donator, I am 1 person. It takes 5 to start a vote THEN the entire server voted to kick him, why am I being singled out?

Whoever suggested someone signing on "undercover" I hope you decide to do so. We come on to have a good time like everyone else and I know you will find some coordination and plenty of frags.

you are right..He should have a demo of it..not screen shots of Console sayings..theres no proof there what so ever...and chat spams can be funny at times..but like some where people spam WHY IS MY TEAM SUCH NIGGER or WHY IS BOOM SO VM STACK or WHY IS BOOM > WOLF...it just gets annoying.

[Brokkoly 11]

Boom, please read this:

http://forums.gamingterritory.com/topic/3976-how-to-request-a-ban-read-first/

And at everyone, using the stats page, you can see the chat logs of people, and i'm not sure if you can see server chat logs.