Ban Request: Oo7

[myelin 10]

Ban Request - OO7

8/20/10 - around 5:00pm, Goldrush #1 Server

Wallhacking/model changes

SteamID: STEAM_0:1:32804189

http://stats.lotusclan.com/playerinfo/525485

I've heard many people playing on the server lately complain about OO7 hacking as sniper. Below are some videos that support the case. Also, this has come up before but nothing was ever done about it. See this thread:

In this video, watch at 40s as OO7 overlooks the soldier reloading in front of the wall. He does this because he thinks that the soldier is behind the wall, and not in front of it like he actually is. As soon as the soldier reaches the right corner of the wall, OO7 shoots at him. This is likely due to the model changes or wallhack that OO7 is using.

Here is the original video without the model changes, clearly showing that the soldier was in front of the wall:

http://www.multiupload.com/7HL36OY43T

Here are some other demos of OO7. I will let you make your own inferences from the videos as I would much rather get back to playing.

http://www.multiupload.com/J2LCQV5NCN

http://www.multiupload.com/0IGSU9MXTO

[thugaim 4]

I love how you conveniently added in the colored models to make it look like he's cheating when he clearly isn't.

[DeJaDeW 83]

epic fail myelin

[myelin 10]

The models were added so that you can see what OO7 is seeing. If you actually took the time to read the thread, you would know that right below the youtube video is the original .dem file.

[thugaim 4]

The models were added because you couldn't prove he was cheating by the demo alone. This is the same thread that was posted two months ago. You want him gone because you have some kind of personal grudge against him.

[myelin 10]

I don't recall asking for your opinion. Unless you frequent the server or play with this person, your assumptions are absolutely useless.

[thugaim 4]

Wow you're right. Good detective work. He somehow knows people are coming around the corner. Maybe because that's the only corner between him and the enemy spawn.

[myelin 10]

Here is the original video with no model changes.

Again, I ask: at 40s, why does he overlook the soldier standing in clear view, and then when the soldier approaches the end of the wall, he lines him up and shoots? That makes absolutely no sense, unless of course he didn't know the soldier was actually in front of the wall and not behind.

[Hirogen 1]

Any video with hax superimposed over it will most likely look fishy. Record one of anyone and try it out. Sniper would look fishy even more imo.

[myelin 10]

That may be true, but I still stand by the accusations.

[OO7 4]

That may be true, but I still stand by the accusations.

All I have to say, is you'd know a Waller if you saw one. I cant wait untill someone with real hacks come in and shut your pathetic team up.

Keep reviving old threads. People are already sick of your bullshit. Watch who actually gets banned. The ban requests are reserved for LEGIT BANS only, not because your ePeen is hurt you cant play worth shit. What I want to know is, how you arent banned when you are posting videos with hacks of my gameplay demo? Thats admitting guilt right there. And if it wasnt you it was probably one of your clan mates, which is actually a good reason to REBAN [Team Win] If you aren't happy losing go play on your server. You can ban all VM from your server so you stop getting railed.

[myelin 10]

All I'm asking of you is to share with us why you didn't shoot the soldier.

[OO7 4]

I dont know, I also didnt shoot him after he ran away from the wall either, I noticed he just ran on by in the open and I did nothing but fire a single shot in his general direction, completely missing him.

I dont see the point here. I sent your bff leeeeee a screenshot of all my materials files, with dates modified, most were untouched since the day i bought the game. He didnt understand why i had 2 folders he didnt, but I listed what was in them; apparently servers can upload files to your pc in custom servers. (no shit) I offered to topfrag as you put it, in the lotus server and screen shot myself looking upon everyone holding down tab showing scores, proving that it wasnt a demo, but you guys still refuse. I offered on your forums to play you guys on a sv_pure 2 server, but you wont do it. So what do I need to do other than let someone teamview my computer which im not confortable with to prove I havent changed my game in any way? I dont even run scripts anymore. I'm asking you nicely, and politely, what exactly, aside from videoing my gameplay or streaming it since i dont have the space or bandwidth to do so, (I'm already all over ping wise) to prove it to you guys? Actually, more like prove it to Team Win. Maybe playing a sniper will actually make you guys better, watching more than 5 feet ahead of you. Have you bothered to look up ever?

Regardless, my offer stands. At the end of a round, I will screen shot myself on top or wherever I am on that team, seeing my KD and all. I'll make sure to be looking out on my team mates, maybe enemies if any are around as well.

After I do this, you do realize it will show the true nature of Team Win, dont you? I guess if I were in your position, and my clanmates and I called someone from a rival clan a hacker because he plays so well, was actually playing legit, I'd be pretty embarassed, as a person, and a group. Like this isnt a one time deal, this is ALL the time. Vm has been known to call people hackers, but not so far as to create multiple threads on multiple boards trying to prove a point.

TL:DR

I will demo my gameplay, a whole round (not a biggie)

I will screen shot the beginning and/or ending of a round, showing my KD, proving I didnt "turn it off" and play like shit.

We can do this on lotus preferably, or a SV_Pure 2 server.

This can not be shopped at all when tab is held down. You can not view personal score in demo.

I, as well as all of VM, expect you to recind all your hack accusations after I do this, effectively ending this discussion.

I expect you guys wont harass, or bother us about our playing style ever again.

I do not want to see Myelin or any of Team Win making a thread in the Lotus Ban forums about ANY hackers since this will prove once and for all you can NOT spot a real hacker, and your opinions are baseless.

After I do this, I will become an Honorary Member of Team Win, allowing me to wear the tag whenever I play TF2 if I so please. (Lawl)

I am NOT Frap'sing a whole round, nor am I teamviewing anyone. I've had enough sending desktop screenshots, and my computer cant fraps at 5760x1080 or whatever. Even at half res things slow way down. (Eyefinity FTL)

[myelin 10]

You expect us to trust screen shots and demos from your perspective? I think not.

Multiple people have noted in this forum as well as in-game that you seem to track people through the walls and then shoot them right when they pop out. I've been playing this game daily for 1 year and 7 months, and I have never encountered a sniper with your abilities. Given differences with internet latency and human perception (i.e., you seeing me, moving your mouse to my head, left clicking), the shots that you make are highly unlikely to occur at such a high rate. Further, the amount of resistance that our accusations have been met with from you is indicative of guilt. Typically, a person who is accused of cheating when they really aren't do not respond in such a hostile, impulsive way as you have.

If in fact you are just a great sniper, I will gladly offer you an apology. However, I find that to be highly unlikely given the videos posted, your response to being accused of cheating (e.g., registering on the Team Win forum to bad mouth me, attempting to add me to your friend list multiple times, talking trash in-game to myself and fellow clan mates), and your ever changing story as to why you didn't shoot the soldier.

Josh?

[thugaim 4]

I trust his screenshots and demos.

[sy. 0]

he's not even a good sniper, stop complaining.

[Bigus Dikus 0]

Did i just see a video of a sniper missing 7/10 shots? and ppl calling him cheater? WTF it's wrong with this ppl. Someone needs a new hoby.

[Rolooooooooo 2]

hmmm.... after watching the goldrush demo for this thread(didn't see all the demos yet) I can't say for sure he's wallhacking or hacking. When 007 zooms in his scope moving is smooth, (usually if your shacky or jaggy in zoom that's a tell of auto aim, or some hack is on) the reload time, recovery per shot is fine, so I'd have to watch him myself. All I see is a careful sniper looking in and out of the corners for a shot, so I'll try to go undercover to see what's up. A lot of people accused myself, phantom, mojo, killerkeg, or anyone playing sniper of hacking, but that was BS and we proved them wrong. Missing the solder is strange, but not a definite sign of him wallhacking. Maybe he was thinking there were more important targets to kill first than a reloading direct hit solder, so he looked around first and than shot the solder after he couldn't find anything. Right, isn't shooting the medics, engies, or important targets first better than killing a lone direct soldier reloading. That could explain why he took so long to shoot the solder.

p.s. did u guys ever straighten out your probs with BOOM? I went on the server a couple times when everyone was making a fuss about it, but I never saw boom on. Unless he changed his name or something the case was never solved.

[Chancellor 3]

he's not even a good sniper, stop complaining.

Exactly. 007 is a terrible sniper. I would love to play with him, since he looks so fucking easy to kill.

hmmm.... after watching the goldrush demo for this thread(didn't see all the demos yet) I can't say for sure he's wallhacking or hacking. When 007 zooms in his scope moving is smooth, (usually if your shacky or jaggy in zoom that's a tell of auto aim, or some hack is on) the reload time, recovery per shot is fine, so I'd have to watch him myself. All I see is a careful sniper looking in and out of the corners for a shot, so I'll try to go undercover to see what's up. A lot of people accused myself, phantom, mojo, killerkeg, or anyone playing sniper of hacking, but that was BS and we proved them wrong. Missing the solder is strange, but not a definite sign of him wallhacking. Maybe he was thinking there were more important targets to kill first than a reloading direct hit solder, so he looked around first and than shot the solder after he couldn't find anything. Right, isn't shooting the medics, engies, or important targets first better than killing a lone direct soldier reloading. That could explain why he took so long to shoot the solder.

Are you joking? He attacked a spy that was behind a wall doing nothing. Besides, the spy on his team was about to kill him anyways. Don't say that he has a good sense of target priority.

Good job OP. Despite his obvious hacks and multiple retards thinking that 007 is clean, you're still fighting for the deserved ban.

[Hirogen 1]

I don't even know if its true or not, but I play soldier almost constantly, perhaps he knew it was me. I've asked him to ignore me before

[thugaim 4]

I'm pretty sure most wallhacks have a way to let you know if someone is behind a wall or out in the open, otherwise, how would the player know what to shoot at. All he is doing is keeping his crosshair in a high traffic area and waiting for enemies to line up. The reason why he didn't go after the soldier is because he can't aim for shit and he can't hit shit unless someone just so happens to run in front of his crosshair. Of course he's going to shoot a spy that's shooting at him. Try again next month.

[Rolooooooooo 2]

Good job OP. Despite his obvious hacks and multiple retards thinking that 007 is clean, you're still fighting for the deserved ban.

first off am not a admin on any of the servers, nor a recruit, or L member. Just a TF2 regular who plays a lot on the lotus servers and has a good reputation with the players. Also my decision on banning him or not is still unsure. I would still have to submit the proper ban request with demos just like everyone else and wait from the real ADMINS to make the ban. I probably have better chances of getting the lotus clan to listen to me,(that happens a lot to the people who play with the lotus clan for so long) but I still have to follow the rules just like everyone else.

second

Chancellor said "Are you joking? He attacked a spy that was behind a wall doing nothing. Besides, the spy on his team was about to kill him anyways. Don't say that he has a good sense of target priority."

he attacked a spy that was behind a box UNCLOAKED, UNDISQUISED, SHOOTING his gun in front of his face, and headshotted him while scoped in front of his face. that 's what really happen there when 007 spy was behind the enemy spy.

Chancellor said "Are you joking? He attacked a spy that was behind a wall doing nothing. Besides, the spy on his team was about to kill him anyways. Don't say that he has a good sense of target priority."

He may or may not have good target priority, but that's another thread to talk about. I was simply saying he might have been looking around first before he shoots the reloading direct hit solder, thus solving the mystery of "why did he take so long to shoot him". Not all snipers shoot what's in front of us all the time, sometimes it's good to look around first.

well there am done.

p.s. there are way more better regulars than me who aren' t official lotus clan members with real admin powers.

[OO7 4]

I posted this in my other ban thread but I might as well post it here too. I know this may come as a shock, but here are two pictures of in-game play, converted to jpeg from tgf files. I still have the original untouched tgf files if your interested. Actually 4 of them from this game. Here they are. You guys can make up your own minds about it, unless you request more pictures, I think this is all the proof I need.

I held down tab to show scores so you knew I didnt just change the materials before joining the server, playing badly, then screenshotting it saying "LOOK AT ME IM LEGIT!" I also did this so you knew it wasnt just a demo playing back, with original materials loaded, and that this is, infact, gameplay screenshots.

This is during a game I was working my way up to the top in. Notice I have 50 HS and 65 kills or something. I need to work on my headshots, I need closer to 80%. And I need to stop battlesniping. Murders my KD. But I really didnt wanna play for 3 hrs to make the top of the list.

And Myelin, I'm politely asking you to take off the videos of the material hacks. People are saying they have seen videos with my hacks on. They believe you have a demo of me hacking with materials. They come into the servers saying they have seen my "hack" videos. Thank you. If I were legitly walling, you wouldnt need to post videos with walls on to prove it. I'm willing to bet half the people who think I'm hacking think it because of the video that has obvious hacks enabled.

In fact, I am thinking it should be [Team Win] who should be banned since the videos are hosted on your youtube, proving someone in your group is a wallhacker. This wouldnt be the first time you guys have been banned on the Lotus servers, would it?

[myelin 10]

And Myelin, I'm politely asking you to take off the videos of the material hacks. People are saying they have seen videos with my hacks on. They believe you have a demo of me hacking with materials. They come into the servers saying they have seen my "hack" videos. Thank you. If I were legitly walling, you wouldnt need to post videos with walls on to prove it. I'm willing to bet half the people who think I'm hacking think it because of the video that has obvious hacks enabled.

Considering your post on our forum, I think not.

Bah, I have NEVER watched so many kids try SO HARD to prove someone is hacking. AND FAIL. You guys really do have pride issues, eh? Some CAL kid comes in, tears you up, and you cry hacks? You guys really do seem pretty noobish IMO. If all you have is me not shooting a soldier, then your grasping at straws. By the way Myelin, its 6 domination's on you in 3 playing days, and 0 on me? (maybe more, I stopped keeping track after I dominated you 2 min after joining a game and you BAWWWWW'd about it) Do you want me to give you private sniping lessons? You'd like that wouldn't you Myelin? What I would pay to listen to your silent cries for mercy... Oh wait, I get that for free playing against you on the Lotus forums.

Trust me, when someones walling, you'd know it. If you need to make assumptions about "he must have done this or that or had this or that", your trying too hard. I'm really disappointed in you guys, trying to cover up bad game play with cheat accusations. I've been in the Lotus servers every night, and NOT ONCE has anyone accused me of hacking until I switched over to my OO7 tag. I attribute this to your whining and crying. Even on the Lotus Forums your laughed at because all you do is have a KNOWN wall-hacker, Leeeeee post up hacked videos of me sniping and call it hacking. Or is it you Myelin? Have you been making these hack videos? Either way some people are wondering how you have such easy access to hacks/ if YOUR actually upset your too bad to get caught with them. Your right, this is about me, not you. Sorry to attack the only thing your almost good at. Would you like to jump into an sv_pure server and see what happens then kiddo? Stop smokin the reefer, your seeing' things bro. But my challenge stands. I'll jump in any decently pinged sv_pure, or whatever you want, and show you what its about child. I don't know how else to prove it to you. Stop shooting you? Your such an easy target Myelin. Okay, I'll say it. I think your a bad player who runs around as heavy to cover up the fact you cant aim. They made the heavy for kids who cant shoot straight, there is so much bullet spread you need to be facing towards the general continent as the enemy to hit him. Not to mention you have so many nut riders that want part of your little group that they will uber your sad ass to watch you get dinked the moment you come out of uber. Thats the only reason you MIGHT make MVP. Your a bad player Myelin. A player isnt only judged by his skills but by his mentality. You pick on random kids in the server with no affiliation, you only survive an encounter with ANYONE if your uber'd, and you whine so much. Someone gets hit by you and says ns, and your like "raped idiot". Your a failure of a player. Your skills can not back up your mouth and I have you backed into a corner. What should you do? Get good? Or run your mouth looking like an idiot some more? You never go into servers alone I see. You afraid you'll get your feelings hurt? Ive NEVER been banned from any server, eGO or the likes from the way I play. And they are really stringent on how they play.

So the question is, are you going to man up and 1v1 snipe me? You can show me your heavy skills in a 1v1? Maybe some scout sniping would butter your biscuit? Or are you going to go hide some more? Are you going to accuse me of hacking for shooting people? Or not shooting some people? Is it because I play different than you? Maybe you should play like me, I went up 490,000 ranks in a month, rofl. Myelin, I don't care if your group doesn't like me, your the ONLY person in Team Win I have a problem with. Luckily, I have a problem with their worst player. You cant do shit, you cant even back your own mouth up. Have fun while I single handedly ruin your team as a sniper.

http://teamwin.clanservers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1785&start=25

[OO7 4]

Considering your post on our forum, I think not.

http://teamwin.clanservers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1785&start=25

How did you think I would respond? You talk shit about me on forums I dont even know about, and you expect me to be like "Sorry guys, I wont shoot you anymore, CAN I BE PART OF UR GROUP!!!!?!?!?! U SEEM SO COOL!"? Notice it took me a few months to even see the thread? I think your just a mad little kid. Mad that on my Lotus stats page your at the top of my kills and dominations. And you dont like being hurt by my rifle. I honestly believe you play like shit, end of story. I'll be honest Myelin, your threads and posts make you look like a whiney little brat who thinks enough crying will get you what you want. You even resorted to hacking yourself, to prove I was apparently. I mean its safe to assume since your posting the Mat hack videos of me, you made them, right? Or did someone in Team Win do it for you? Were you like "USE MATERIALS ON THIS DEMO AND CLAIM OO7 DID IT, GO!!!!!"? Whats the secret passphrase to get Team Win you suck you off? I, for one, dont agree with you; a mouth isnt just a mouth for me. After browsing your Team Win forums, I think its safe to say none of you guys are ever allowed to eat dinner at the dinner table anymore.

Your running yourself headfirst into the ground, as a person and a group Myelin. Shit, throw a cheesegrater on your head and come to my house, my yard needs mowed.

Your so mad right now that you wont even acknowlege the fact that im posting irrefutable proof and your ban threads are going no where. People are sick of you and Leeee's bullshit. You think just because I beast your hacker [Leeeeee] in [Team Win] that I'm a hacker too. Kudos.