thugaim 4 #1 Posted August 21, 2010 Ban Request - (+∩-) Crovax August 20, 24/7 2fort West Coast 9:20PM CST Donator abuse. Constantly initiating a votekick against me, every time I join the server. The same thing happened last night around the same time. His entire clan has been grieving me constantly lately. The other day, Homo Joe was shooting flames in my face while I was trying to snipe. The server logs will show this. As a donator, I would like to continue to play on the Lotus servers, and I would like to continue to donate, but I am unable to do this if I am vote kicked every time I join the server. Something needs to be done about the time allowed between vote kicks, because players can constantly initiate a vote kick against a player with no waiting time in between. http://sharebase.to/1,xguwuKqWqu.html Included in this .zip is multiple demos showing his donator abuse and grieving. Uploaded with ImageShack.us SteamID: STEAM_0:1:26337140 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crovax 3 #2 Posted August 21, 2010 A) I started the votekicks to speed up 5 people having to initiate it. Players constantly complain about Taylor Swift on the server due to his hacks, can provide screens next time it happens. C) All the votekicks from the previous night were 25 to 1, so its not just me and a few others doing it for fun, wish i would have saved those screens. Can provide screens the next time it happens for proof. D) A lot of players on the server try to get demo's of Taylor Swift but as soon as someone goes spectator he stops doing whatever he was doing and goes idle. 2 night's ago he sat idle on battlements for approximately 20-30 minutes as a Cloak and Dagger spy right after he was being spectated. If he doesn't do that he sits idle in the spawn room. If you would like proof I can try and get more people from the server to post here and defend me. Thank you. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tappy 8 #3 Posted August 21, 2010 I didn't realize it was against the rules to votekick players who hack because they don't know how to play tf2... I play a fair amount of time on the same server and I see Taylor Swift, the player requesting the ban against Crovax, and it's fairly obvious that hacks are involved. I'll be a spy and I'm instantly found by Taylor Swift even though I'm fully cloaked... there was "oh I saw you cloak" or "someone bumped into you and I saw your color shade" I can be cloaked around the corner and here he comes to get me. If you aren't going to play the game fairly then why even bother? Waste of resources and money. Falling for this trap would make me wonder if I want to donate next time. In case you don't like to read: Crovax = Innocent Taylor Swift = Guilty and should be banned for hacking 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErnestBORG9 1 #4 Posted August 21, 2010 Taylor Swift hacks and every regular on the West Coast server knows it. We are damned tired of it. It's pretty ridiculous that a hacker comes here, whining about getting his ass booted from the server by people who just want to play. It's like those retarded people on COPS that are drug dealing and then go to the cops to tell them they got ripped off! If Lotus wants to keep their servers hacker-free, the best thing they can do is ban Taylor Swift. It's getting really stupid. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
straybullet 0 #5 Posted August 21, 2010 A call to ban Crovax by Taylor? Is this bizarro land? Every time Taylor is on he is blatantly using hacks and i would definitely support kicking him any time it is possible. Being a donator by no means makes you exempt from the "No Hacking" rule. I will hand it to Taylor that his pre-emptive strike against those who wish to see his cheating removed from the server is pretty forward thinking but the accusations he levies against Crovax are simply bald faced lies. Everyone on this server has more than enough cause to want to kick Taylor and the fact that the vote to kick seems to be successful most of the time should be a testament to that. Let me not mince words and make my position perfectly clear. Taylor should not be allowed to muddy the waters of the Lotus servers. It's that simple. If Crovax gets banned for trying to preserve the integrity of the server then the Lotus network would not be one that I would want to continue to donate to nor frequent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giblet 0 #6 Posted August 21, 2010 Taylor has been a problem now for the last couple of weeks. He constantly hacks and when people try to record it, he just goes specatator or goes afk. He would have been banned by now if he wasn't donator. Kicking him over and over again is really the best we can do against him, Crovax is just the weapon we poor defenseless West Costers are using to fight back against the tyranny of the hacker! And it isn't just Crovax and his clan, the vote to kick him has been pretty much All to none in favor of kicking Taylor every time. So vote for Crovax and ban the hacker, Taylor Swift. Her music sucks anyway. P.S. Giblet was here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corn 9 #7 Posted August 21, 2010 I doubt Taylor's hacking and having donator privileges that prevent him from being banned is just a coincidence. As Crovax said, a 21-1 vote isn't a "for fun" kick, if that many people are agreeing to kick a player then they're most likely being disruptive. If Taylor has nothing to hide then why would he go idle every time someone goes spectator? But maybe I'm wrong, I too love to waste 45 minutes of my life cloaked on the battlements. Bottom line is he knows he's hacking and he knows we know he's hacking, it's just a matter of time until he's banned. P.S. Could we get an admin to change the title of the thread to Ban Request - Taylor Swift? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thugaim 4 #8 Posted August 21, 2010 For clarification, I am the player known as "Taylor Swift." If you have proof of me cheating, by all means, post it. I've included a demo which led you and homo joe to vote kick me, under the assumption that I was hacking. Provide a demo and I will provide the same demo from my perspective. I can provide demos for the entire past week. What proof can you provide that shows me hacking? Screenshots of players yelling "hacker" are not proof. Members of your clan vouching for you is not proof. Obviously, your friends are going to side with you. Just because a player kills you, doesn't mean you can vote kick that player whenever he shows up on the server. That is vote kick abuse and you know it. You know what the ban process on Lotus servers is and you are ignoring it because you know that the admins will turn the other shoulder. I know that you will claim that I turn them off whenever someone spectates me, so I will offer to provide the demos for you. In fact, I'll go ahead and post the demos from two nights ago, where I supposedly turned my hacks off whenever someone joined spectator. There are no signs of hacks within any of these demos, so your claim that I cheat has been proven wrong. Since I've shown that I don't cheat, any vote kick from you or any of your friends is vote kick abuse, plain and simple. People who are constantly grieving other players don't have a place on the Lotus servers. It's time to face the facts: Take everything you are good at in life and there will always be someone else who is better than you. Again, I've provided proof from my end and so far you've provided nothing. Honestly, I don't think Crovax should be banned. The only thing I want is for this issue to be resolved. However, I know that nothing will be done unless this is addressed. I apologize to the admin who has to review these demos, the file size is quite large. You won't have to sit through every minute to see that I'm not hacking though. As I've said before, I am a donator and I would like to continue to play on your server, as well as donate to the Lotus clan. Thank you for your time. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J9PXT9TX http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OF0DEM20 This is just a couple demos. There's more where that came from. Oh and thanks guys. It puts a smile on my face to know that people still think I cheat, even years after my prime. You guys bring me back to the good old days of TFC. I can't blame you guys. If I had to play against me, I'd want me banned too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crovax 3 #9 Posted August 21, 2010 Obviously you are not going to post demo's of yourself cheating. Sure do wish i took screens since this issue blew up. Of course my friend's are going to vouch for me because all of them are Lotus regulars and have to see you cheat daily. For the record Stray Bullet is not in our group. He is a player that was on the previous night and noticed something wrong also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giblet 0 #10 Posted August 21, 2010 Being smirky about it doesn't change the fact that you are cheating and hacking. Also, just because you post proof that you are not hacking at the time you recorded the things you posted doesn't mean you weren't during the rest of the time that you were not recording. Either way, the community on our server doesnt' want you here. We all believe you hack, which is why the entire server kicks you whenever you log on. Finaly, it is your word (1 donator) against the word of 5 or 6 donators. The admin won't ban Crovax becasue if they do, all 6 of them are going to cancel their subscriptions and play somewhere else. Either way, it is a losing war for you Taylor. So just leave us alone and go hack on some other server. Vote for Crovax! P.S. Giblet was here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thugaim 4 #11 Posted August 21, 2010 Obviously you are not going to post demo's of yourself cheating. Sure do wish i took screens since this issue blew up. Of course my friend's are going to vouch for me because all of them are Lotus regulars and have to see you cheat daily. For the record Stray Bullet is not in our group. He is a player that was on the previous night and noticed something wrong also. Thanks for watching my demos. I'm glad you watched them before you decided to point your finger again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smitty Werben 0 #12 Posted August 21, 2010 Ban Request - (+∩-) Crovax August 20, 24/7 2fort West Coast 9:20PM CST Donator abuse. Constantly initiating a votekick against me, every time I join the server. The same thing happened last night around the same time. His entire clan has been grieving me constantly lately. The other day, Homo Joe was shooting flames in my face while I was trying to snipe. The server logs will show this. As a donator, I would like to continue to play on the Lotus servers, and I would like to continue to donate, but I am unable to do this if I am vote kicked every time I join the server. Something needs to be done about the time allowed between vote kicks, because players can constantly initiate a vote kick against a player with no waiting time in between. http://sharebase.to/1,xguwuKqWqu.html Included in this .zip is multiple demos showing his donator abuse and grieving. Uploaded with ImageShack.us SteamID: STEAM_0:1:26337140 Okay, here's the thing. It's all great that you want to be a donator to a great server, but I have a feeling the only reason is because you don't want to get punished for cheating/hacking. I mean, why would it bother you to spend money to donate when you already shelled out the cash for your aimbot/wallhack as it is. I don't think it's a coincidence that so many people accuse you of hacking. You claim that you're just a good player. There are a lot of good players on lotus that don't get accused of hacking, including people from the crit magnet group that you seem to be trying to turn the tables on. This isn't about people votebanning you. This is about you being a piece of garbage that can't handle the fact that no matter how hard you try to cheat and not get caught, it's still obvious to experienced players. Players who have been regulars to this server a hell of a lot longer than you, donator status or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Methuzela 0 #13 Posted August 21, 2010 as a veteran of the 24/7 West Coast 2fort server I can vouch for Crovax and the rest of these players when they say that Taylor Swift hacks. although I did not observe Taylor using an aimbot when I spectated him, it was pretty evident that he was using wall hacks. I will upload the demo where I observed him targeting players through through walls multiple times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thugaim 4 #14 Posted August 21, 2010 Are you going to post that demo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErnestBORG9 1 #15 Posted August 21, 2010 Are you really that starved for attention, Taylor? Hacking is for 12 year olds. Maybe if you just admitted to it and apologized, we'd all put it behind us. But you don't. You're an arrogant, little asswhipe that gives the finger to the rules and disrespects everyone here and the Lotus clan by continuing to do it. And THEN, you come in under another name this evening to play it down. We're not stupid and we're insulted that you think we are. If you keep doing it, this isn't going to go away and one of these days we will produce the evidence. Until then, play your "who? Innocent little me?" games as long as you want. We all know the truth and we have no pity for cheaters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thugaim 4 #16 Posted August 21, 2010 Still waiting for those demos. If you need me to post a demo for you, just ask. I think you guys are just butt hurt when you see a player named Taylor Swift kill you. Therefore, I'm changing my name. My name is "recon by fire" now. See you in the servers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krappenfest 2 #17 Posted August 21, 2010 I never had a problem with Taylor Swift until a couple nights ago I noticed he was using a wallhack, but he was good a concealing it. It would be difficult for a player to get a demo that would be overwhelming evidence of his hacking. I know demos are definitive proof on this forum, but in a case like this, I would ask that the Admin assess the credibility of the players here reporting on Taylor Swift hacking. The players posting in this thread (sans Taylor Swift) are all reputable players that have a long history playing on 2Fort West Coast. And on a more personal note to Taylor Swift: Banning Crovax won't get you far, there are so many people aware of your hacking that it'll take 20 more ban requests in order for you to play without being kicked. We're tired of you wasting our time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kangaroo Steak 0 #18 Posted August 21, 2010 Though I've never actually spectated Taylor Swift doing his/her dastardly deeds, I would mention that a fair amount of people on the West Coast server do believe that he uses various hacks, a lot of them from regulars on the server. In the issue of Crovax being banned for "donator " abuse, any person, who's donated or not, is able to start a votekick as long as there's 4 other people who suspect that Taylor Swift hacked in the first place, as the vote went, some 24 other people felt that Taylor hacked and voted him to be kicked (votekick was 24:1) Crovax's donator benefits simply allowed him to skipped the process of 4 others typing "votekick". There has already been multiple attempts to kick Taylor Swift in the past because of suspicion of using hacks, but all have failed, Now with the successful kick, he finally has someone to blame it on, someone who can take the spotlight away from him and bide him time to crack the system which is the 24/7 West Coast 2Fort server, someone like Crovax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beryllium Dragon 0 #19 Posted August 21, 2010 I have not personally witnessed any hacking, however the votes are always successful (80% +), and he's kicked usually 5 times before he gives up and goes elsewhere. This thread is more of a whine and a pathetic attempt for attention than anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corn 9 #20 Posted August 21, 2010 You cause way too many problems in this community, Taylor Swift. You can stand by your pride all you want, but it's still in Lotus' best interest to get rid of you. Anyone who's created problems to this extent, hacker or not, just shouldn't be playing on these servers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thugaim 4 #21 Posted August 21, 2010 Yay, more demos! http://sharebase.to/1,gShQSmhT2t.html http://sharebase.to/1,XID2LORgMT.html http://sharebase.to/1,vtBV87ThXI.html I ask that you guys simply watch my demos. I know none of you have watched my demos in my second post. The problem here isn't that I'm good, it's that everyone on the 24/7 2fort West Coast sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tennesseejed 0 #22 Posted August 21, 2010 This is stupid, the other day i was on 2 fort when taylor swift had 8 dominations and 250+ points and getting 5 points each round. So i decided to spectate him but when i did he all of a sudden stopped trying even cloaking and sitting in his base and just camping his base. He also went sniper and was not doing as good as he was 2 minutes earlier when he was headshottign everyone. kind of suspicious when right when I spectated him he all of a sudden had no dominations, did not try, and got passed in points. Its obvious he hides his hacking ability when he is spectated and he ruins the game for the server. He is always getting votekicked by alot of other people and others do not hesitate to join the kick. Oh ya your obciously not going to post any demos of you hacking but im sure if u played aganist him you would see what all the fuss is about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crovax 3 #23 Posted August 21, 2010 Yay, more demos! http://sharebase.to/1,gShQSmhT2t.html http://sharebase.to/1,XID2LORgMT.html http://sharebase.to/1,vtBV87ThXI.html I ask that you guys simply watch my demos. I know none of you have watched my demos in my second post. The problem here isn't that I'm good, it's that everyone on the 24/7 2fort West Coast sucks. wow.....so you cheat, then say everyone on the server sucks. If everyone sucks why do you have to cheat to get ahead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thugaim 4 #24 Posted August 21, 2010 Here's another good sniping demo. So far, I've been providing the proof in my defense. And so far, you guys have been providing nothing. I've provided more than enough demos and unfortunately for you guys, your claim that I turn them off doesn't work anymore. Nice try though. Now that we have that part settled, let's do something about the vote kicks. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QHLTNRAQ wow.....so you cheat, then say everyone on the server sucks. If everyone sucks why do you have to cheat to get ahead? Wow, so you claim that I cheat, yet you completely ignore my demos. Why would you ignore them? Let's think rationally here for a minute. You're probably ignoring them because it proves you and everyone here wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tennesseejed 0 #25 Posted August 21, 2010 Your obviously not going to post demos of you hacking, so the proof you support isnt even right and your already lieing about hacking so why believe your demos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites