Ban Request - (+∩-) Crovax

[Crovax 3]

Your obviously not going to post demos of you hacking, so the proof you support isnt even right and your already lieing about hacking so why believe your demos.

/agreed. If you accused me of cheating i could get demos of me not cheating and post them also. We've all said why we can never get a demo of you doing it. So far it seems like 6-8 Donators vs. 1 Donator. Theres players not from our clan posting about you. The entire server wants you gone.

[thugaim 4]

Your obviously not going to post demos of you hacking, so the proof you support isnt even right and your already lieing about hacking so why believe your demos.

Did you watch my demos? No. What proof do you have? Oh wait, that's right, none.

If I'm doing as good as I am in my demos without hacks, then why would I even bother to use hacks? Here's a hint, because I'm sure it's too complicated for you guys to comprehend: I don't.

Let's get a demo count:

Taylor Swift: 1.5GB of demos

Crovax and crew: 0

Since I've been providing these demos, you guys are going to have to try a little harder than resorting to name calling.

/agreed. If you accused me of cheating i could get demos of me not cheating and post them also. We've all said why we can never get a demo of you doing it. So far it seems like 6-8 Donators vs. 1 Donator. Theres players not from our clan posting about you. The entire server wants you gone.

We're past this part of the argument. You're going to have to try harder than that.

[tennesseejed 0]

We cant get demos of you because you crawl into a corner and you dont try anymore because you obviously hide your hacks and those posts dont mean nothing because you show posts of you supposedly not hacking but none of this so called harrassment and bullying.

[NinjaInazuma 0]

Heya, gotta say I agree with crovax in this one. Taylor's gotten pretty outta hand. I've been playing on 2Fort with him a ton, and he always seems to know my exact location when walking around corners, or even when he hasn't gotten around the corners, just suddenly shooting rockets out of the corner right where I was. If anything, it seems like obvious wallhacks to me.

[thugaim 4]

I have 6 gigs of demos. If I posted them all, none of you would watch them because it's easier for you to simply point your finger. I've already posted 1.5GB of demos and no one has watched them. If I have demos of every minute for the past week on Lotus Clan, we can kind of come to the conclusion that I don't hack.

[tennesseejed 0]

well if you dont hack then why post all those demos like your becoming so defensive, if u dont hack you wouldnt have to worry about it.

[thugaim 4]

well if you dotn hack then why post all those demos like your becomign so defensive, if u dont hack you wouldnt have to worry about it.

Uhh no, that argument doesn't work. Nice try though. 'A' for effort!

[tennesseejed 0]

Explain how it does not work because you obviously have a PHD in debating...and hacking?

[Methuzela 0]

I'm surprised no one has locked this yet. ok ok. I'll get off my lazy ass and upload the god damn demo

[Crovax 3]

I have 6 gigs of demos. If I posted them all, none of you would watch them because it's easier for you to simply point your finger. I've already posted 1.5GB of demos and no one has watched them. If I have demos of every minute for the past week on Lotus Clan, we can kind of come to the conclusion that I don't hack.

If everyone on the server sucks why not just leave and go play elsewhere? Do you have some superiority complex that makes you want to beat "lesser" players all day? Or do you feel good with yourself by cheating thinking nobody knows. I cannot think of 1 player on the entire server who would take your side. Every single time you are kicked its at least 85% of the server. That's not a couple people doing it just because. If the server could voteban you it would have happened long ago, but since your a donator like the rest of us you cannot be banned on the server.

[tennesseejed 0]

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[Methuzela 0]

here we are

http://rapidshare.co...3355/taylor.dem

the soldier incident is going on at around 00:20 to 00:25

it is about 04:30 when he goes down spiral to find himself an engineer.

from 7:50 to 8:00 he looks through the wall to check the sewer entrance so as not to get flanked.

from 10:20 to 10:35 he knew that the sniper was there, after missing him he knew which way he was heading so he landed the Jarrate perfectly

in the beggining you can see him as sniper targeting a soldier before he peeks out.

he goes down spiral to find an engineer without any notification from anyone

he knows someone is coming out of sewers as if he sees them.

also his basic play style is natural to what a player would do with wallhacks.

he would be a terrible player if he didn't have this advantage witch is why he can hide it so well.

anyhow. the demo is 16 minutes long. I recommend admins watch as much of it as they can.

the arguments are only going to get out of hand so a conclusion should be reached before the flamewar escalates.

[NinjaInazuma 0]

Any direct times we should look at? Either way, this should be enough evidence

[thugaim 4]

Explain how it does not work because you obviously have a PHD in debating...and hacking?

It's a last ditch defense. It's the equivalent of a child saying, "No you are." It doesn't make sense because it can go both ways.

Well, if you have nothing to hide, you wouldn't post your demos.

Well, if you have nothing to hide, you would have no problem posting your demos.

[tennesseejed 0]

Oh well i thought only children hack but i guess i was wrong.

[Methuzela 0]

you guys need to chill out and start posting only facts. opinions are going to only show the admins that you are not serious about this.

ignore any insults, they are irrelevant for the time being.

[thugaim 4]

What do you guys think of the demo Meth posted?

[Crovax 3]

Have not watched it all yet, but at :58 to 1:10, the aiming reticule is not matched up with the laser sight.

[Methuzela 0]

the soldier incident is going on at around 00:20 to 00:25

it is about 04:30 when he goes down spiral to find himself an engineer.

from 7:50 to 8:00 he looks through the wall to check the sewer entrance so as not to get flanked.

from 10:20 to 10:35 he knew that the sniper was there, after missing him he knew which way he was heading so he landed the Jarrate perfectly

thats all that I gathered to be suspicious.

I believe he is very good at hiding it when he needs to. therefore it is very difficult to catch him. especially when it comes to wallhacks which are so difficult to verify unless the player is being unintelligent or doesn't care enough.

@Crovax

the aiming reticule is commonly off when recording demos because our screen resolutions do not match

[thugaim 4]

Well, you guys caught me. What can I say? Oh, wait a minute. Guess what I just found?

[Crovax 3]

the soldier incident is going on at around 00:20 to 00:25

it is about 04:30 when he goes down spiral to find himself an engineer.

from 7:50 to 8:00 he looks through the wall to check the sewer entrance so as not to get flanked.

from 10:20 to 10:35 he knew that the sniper was there, after missing him he knew which way he was heading so he landed the Jarrate perfectly

thats all that I gathered to be suspicious.

I believe he is very good at hiding it when he needs to. therefore it is very difficult to catch him. especially when it comes to wallhacks which are so difficult to verify unless the player is being unintelligent or doesn't care enough.

@Crovax

the aiming reticule is commonly off when recording demos because our screen resolutions do not match

Thanks for the aiming reticule answer Meth. I'm not sure about the Soldier incident, could be luck, could be hacks. The Engineer in the spiral is very odd due to the fact Taylor intentionally switches to The Huntsman before going down the spiral because he knew the Sniper Rifle wouldnt be good in close quarters. Lastly the Jarate throw seemed a little too good seeing as the Jarate was in mid-flight before the sniper even appeared.

[thugaim 4]

I got to hand it to you, Meth, you did a good job. It seems like you're the only one here with a clear head on his shoulders and I commend you for trying to look at the facts.

There's just one little problem: I found your 16 minute clip in one of my demos. This demo shows me playing for an hour and a half before you started recording. An hour and a half is a lot of time and I think it's safe to say I didn't "turn my hacks off" if I can show what happened an hour and a half prior. Wouldn't you agree? Pay close attention to the team chat and pay attention to what I'm doing when I die. When I die, I don't simply stare in third person at my teammates hats, I click through everyone and see what's going on. 20 seconds is a lot of time and you should take advantage it.

Well, then it's settled. I'm glad we came to this agreement. Enjoy!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0SQBVMNK

[Crovax 3]

I got to hand it to you, Meth, you did a good job. It seems like you're the only one here with a clear head on his shoulders and I commend you for trying to look at the facts.

There's just one little problem: I found your 16 minute clip in one of my demos. This demo shows me playing for an hour and a half before you started recording. An hour and a half is a lot of time and I think it's safe to say I didn't "turn my hacks off" if I can show what happened an hour and a half prior. Wouldn't you agree? Pay close attention to the team chat and pay attention to what I'm doing when I die. When I die, I don't simply stare in third person at my teammates hats, I click through everyone and see what's going on. 20 seconds is a lot of time and you should take advantage it.

Well, then it's settled. I'm glad we came to this agreement. Enjoy!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0SQBVMNK

So you expect us to sit through an hour and a half of video?

[thugaim 4]

So you expect us to sit through an hour and a half of video?

I don't expect you to, Crovax, since you're incapable of rational thought and I know you would rather ignore the demo and point your finger. It's just so hard for you to admit you were wrong, isn't it?

Also, learn to shift+F2.

Do you have anything else to say? Let's try to be a little more creative and make claims that haven't already been said and haven't been proven wrong.

[Crovax 3]

I don't expect you to, Crovax, since you're incapable of rational thought and I know you would rather ignore the demo and point your finger. It's just so hard for you to admit you were wrong, isn't it?

Also, learn to shift+F2.

Yeah.....anyway the vid is DLing. And an entire server likes to point their finger at you.