Ban Request - Uncle Phil

[Krits Kringle 0]

I still offer to anyone to watch me play. I play with no cheats believe it or not. I do good cause I want to win hate to lose and play as hard as I can. I also have the hours in of playing that makes me know the map and the game better. i do well because of these things. I have always been like this in sports I play or any game I play. Losing is not an option. I do my fair share of losing. But I strive for that not to happen. I could sit back and be a 10 to 1 K/D person. but that would not be me. I'm an up in your face kind of player and I sweat and make faces and my wife makes fun of me all the time for the grunting and stupid faces I make while playing LOL!

I talk on the server all the time. I like to be friends with everyone. Including you Bombz. I hate the fact that me and you got off on the wrong foot. It was one of the reason's I came in changing my name to Uncle Phil and Homie D Clown. I just want to play without the hassles of people saying I'm their bitch. Hell Hello Ladies the other day gave me 3 ubers LOL! That would never happen if I came in as me. Sorry Duncan even you I don't like the fighting. It puts me in a bad mood and although I play better in a bad mood I don't like to be in a bad mood. Duncan is a good player as well. He knows my patterns and he is always there waiting for me LOL! I usually kill 4 of his teammates and all of a sudden there he is. I got no ammo and I'm toast. But hey that is good to be that way. Knowing what people will do is half the battle.

[PIMPSLAP 0]

Focusing on a curse word under the assumption that I said it to further my point doesn't further your point, either. Kind of like if I pointed out the difference between "You're" and "Your".

Their functions are different, the only thing synonymous about the two is that they're interacting with the gun/weapon. Bullets are firing from the gun in to the same spot (No Spread), no recoil is preventing the gun from kicking and causing aim repositioning.

You can argue this all you want. You simply don't know what you are talking about.

I'm not going to sink down to your level and once again, for the fourth or fifth time, prove how your wrong about the things that your saying and end up getting banned from this forum for arguing. I've made my point so well formulated that the only thing you could end up saying to me was how I used the word "synonymous" incorrectly (which I didn't).

-My offer stands. If this comes down to needing video footage to prove a point, so be it. If this crap is going to continue, I'll post a video. I'll even make Krits go into his taskbar AFTER in game footage is over to show you that no hack is running in the background or in the processes under the CTRL+ALT+DEL tab. If it does happen and you see that your accusations are false.. I'll be expecting a full appology on the forums and in game from everyone involved.

[Bombz 31]

I'm not going to sink down to your level and once again, for the fourth or fifth time, prove how your wrong about the things that your saying and end up getting banned from this forum for arguing. I've made my point so well formulated that the only thing you could end up saying to me was how I used the word "synonymous" incorrectly (which I didn't).

-My offer stands. If this comes down to needing video footage to prove a point, so be it. If this crap is going to continue, I'll post a video. I'll even make Krits go into his taskbar AFTER in game footage is over to show you that no hack is running in the background or in the processes under the CTRL+ALT+DEL tab.

What?

At what point did I say KRITS KRINGLE was hacking? You're getting me confused. You need to re-read this thread, seriously.

I said I'd never seen something like this in a video, under normal play. That in and of itself doesn't mean I'm accusing him of hacking.

And your offer is only good in your own mind. I'm telling you how it is and you can keep thinking you know how it is.

No Recoil and No Spread are not the same things, they're not synonymous in function and they do two different things. The only relation they have is that they both relate to the gun you fire from. Anyone with a brain can go research this.

Here, the definition from people who actually do this kind of thing ALL the time, you know, developers.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+no+recoil+and+no+spread

2nd Link in the results on google, from gamedeception, squirt.

[PIMPSLAP 0]

Never suspected you, and I'm typically good at picking up on when someone is walling or aimbotting. I just can't explain what the hell is showing in your demo, which looks like no recoil to me.

But if you've watched the demo they recorded, you'd know that you can't explain that kind of movement with a high sensitivity, it's not natural at all. I know that TF2 and then the other source based games are really weird with demo playback at times but I just don't know what's the explanation for that kind of thing in your demo. It doesn't seem to do it until you fire, which is precisely what a no recoil would do, too.

Okay so you are contradicting yourself terribly here.. First you act as though you never thought he cheats, but then go on to say that you cannot "explain what the hell is showing in your demo WHICH LOOKS LIKE NO RECOIL to me."

and later... "It doesn't seem to do it until you fire, which is precisely what NO RECOIL would do, too."

So you never directly said "Your dad hacks" but you inferred it by saying he appears to have no recoil, which you will later go on to say doesn't exist in tf2.

Am I the only one here who is seeing the fact that you are completely contradicting yourself?

[Bombz 31]

Okay so you are contradicting yourself terribly here.. First you act as though you never thought he cheats, but then go on to say that you cannot "explain what the hell is showing in your demo WHICH LOOKS LIKE NO RECOIL to me."

and later... "It doesn't seem to do it until you fire, which is precisely what NO RECOIL would do, too."

So you never directly said "Your dad hacks" but you inferred it by saying he appears to have no recoil, which you will later go on to say doesn't exist in tf2.

Am I the only one here who is seeing the fact that you are completely contradicting yourself?

Of course I said it's what no recoil does, because it has a very similar effect. And of course it can be seen as an accusation. If I say your car making a certain noise usually means your brake pads are worn out, does it mean they are worn out or that it's a possibility? If I say that I haven't heard a sound like that before that wasn't a brake pad problem, does it mean that it cannot be something else? Also don't forget the parts where I said "I never suspected you of hacking" (Twice) and the part where I asked what kind of mouse he used, because I was going to say, if it was a crappy optical his mouse could be going bad. Don't forget to include both of the ways I'm looking at this, since I'm trying to be objective here.

And also, don't forget this link, since now that I've posted it, you've seemed to have forgotten about it.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q...l+and+no+spread

[PIMPSLAP 0]

1. Of course I said it's what no recoil does, because it has a very similar effect.

2. And of course it can be seen as an accusation. But also don't forget the parts where I said "I never suspected you of hacking" (Twice) and the part where I asked what kind of mouse he used, because I was going to say, if it was a crappy optical his mouse could be going bad. Don't forget to include both of the ways I'm looking at this, since I'm trying to be objective here.

3. And also, don't forget this link, since now that I've posted it, you've seemed to have forgotten about it.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q...l+and+no+spread

1. -So they are synonymous is what you're saying..

2. -Virtually nothing that you've said in this entire thread has been objective. So far the only things I've seen you say besides "you never suspected him of cheating" have been vain attempts to prove he hacks.

3 -As for point 3, I didn't forget that you posted it. I don't need someone to explain to me what I already am aware of. No recoil and Nospread are synonymous (RELATED) in terms of HACKING OR CHEATING because the ABSENCE of recoil makes bullets fire in a more precise spot (not the exact spot like nospread) than if recoil was present.

[Bombz 31]

1. -So they are synonymous is what you're saying..

2. -Virtually nothing that you've said in this entire thread has been objective. So far the only things I've seen you say besides "you never suspected him of cheating" have been vain attempts to prove he hacks.

3 -As for point 3, I didn't forget that you posted it. I don't need someone to explain to me what I already am aware of. No recoil and Nospread are synonymous (RELATED) in terms of HACKING OR CHEATING because the ABSENCE of recoil makes bullets fire in a more precise spot (not the exact spot like nospread) than if recoil was present.

Go back and read it, it's very objective, I've made a few posts even talking about KRITS, the rest has been attempting to show you the light, which obviously isn't happening. And again, for the... 5th time? The only thing synonymous about the two is that they relate to your weapon, beyond that, they do 2 different things, which is not what you said when Krits posted about you saying what No Recoil does, which was:

He explains a No Recoil Hack as a hack that when the player shoots all shots are in a straight line and there is no random pattern to the shots.

You also said:

When this happens, that most certainly means that an aimbot is enabled

Um, what? So when someone is using No Recoil and No Spread they're using an aimbot? lol, let me guess, aimbot is synonymous with No Spread and No Recoil too?

This is your whole argument with me, which really doesn't make sense because he's playing Demoman and the effects of a No Recoil could show (Even if Recoil doesn't exist in TF2), while No Spread couldn't, since it's a bullet based thing.

I'm going to agree to disagree, anyone can fact find for themselves and would most certainly be advised to take the advice of people who know what they're talking about.

[PIMPSLAP 0]

You need to use your good hand to slap the shit out of your ignorant son.

The little squirt is probably barely old enough to change his own huggies and the little squirt is trying to lecture me on something he seems to know nothing about.

I seemed to have missed this. I've said nothing to you in the course of this entire argument that could even remotely be considered an insult or attack on you. I think the reason why you refer to me as an "ignorant son" and a "squirt" is because I've shot down everything that you have said, and the fact that I'm making a good argument is too much for your patience to handle. Can I ask you a question? If I'm an ignorant young kid, that must mean that your in your thirties or forties, correct? That being said, the fact that I have kept my compsure and dignity in this argument while you crumble and resort to name-calling and other forms of insults makes me older in terms of maturity than you have accomplished in your (insert age here) long miserable existance.

[Krits Kringle 0]

My son is 20 Bombz he is a good kid and I would never have to take a hand to him Bro. I raised him right and he plays with honor as well. He plays AG like I play TF2. And no I didn't see Bombz Call me a cheater I did see where he said my gun looks like it moves funny. And I will give him that cause it does move funny even for me sometimes cause like I said I look at it (during the game play I don't have time to look at it) it looks like it bends funny. But I have no clue as to why that is other than it maybe I have had at least 4 different video cards in this machine in the past year. And I keep my steam acct and folder on a drive that I don't have to reformat cause I hate all that stuff having to reload LOL!

But he is sticking up for me cause he is my son. It's personal with him cause well anyone would be for their dad or son. i would do the same for him. And he knows I have always taught him never to cheat. Cheaters are losers. People who cheat are admitting they suck and need a cheat to win. Through my job and how I grew up I was never taught to cheat or be a loser. Like lifting weights. Steroids are for cheaters who can't get big on their own so they take the easy way out. Funny as I say that I am on Steroids but not muscle enhancing ones. This hand of mine and other joints in my body hurt and I have from time to time take Prednisone which is a Inflammatory steriod. It makes me feel 20 years younger and much more allert too and I play better. LOL! Maybe that is a cheat.

[PIMPSLAP 0]

Um, what? So when someone is using No Recoil and No Spread they're using an aimbot? lol, let me guess, aimbot is synonymous with No Spread and No Recoil too?

This is your whole argument with me, which really doesn't make sense because he's playing Demoman and the effects of a No Recoil could show (Even if Recoil doesn't exist in TF2), while No Spread couldn't, since it's a bullet based thing.

-So what your telling me is that if I came into the Lotus server tonight without an aimbot, but with nospread and norecoil enabled, I wouldn't be hacking? If they aren't synonymous with cheats then I might as well hit up google right away and enable it for myself then, right?

--You kidding me, man?

[Krits Kringle 0]

I will check in on this later my Wife's Aunt stopped by and I have to show my face. Ugly as it may be. Just remember Bombz that he is my son and he is passionate about protecting his dads honor. he is a good kid. Never a problem. he does not go out and cause trouble or drink or do anything that would disrespect himself or his family. you would I'm sure do the same for a good friend or a family member. And you having a little baby you would do the same for your son.

[Bombz 31]

-So what your telling me is that if I came into the Lotus server tonight without an aimbot, but with nospread and norecoil enabled, I wouldn't be hacking? If they aren't synonymous with cheats then I might as well hit up google right away and enable it for myself then, right?

--You kidding me, man?

It actually doesn't almost certainly mean that an aimbot is enabled. That's an assumption on your part.

When did I ever say that using No Recoil and No Spread wasn't a cheat? I said that using No Recoil and No Spread doesn't mean you're using an aimbot, jeez it's not that hard to figure out. Are you trying to troll me?

You need to agree to disagree with me as I've said. People can read what's here and make their own decisions and judgments. The rest is just you saying what you've already said and me saying what I've already said.

[AKULA_ONE 0]

Well to whoever said that Krits personally asked to to vouch for him is not true. I simply started playing the game and joined the server and noticed all the animosity towards Krits (then Uncle Phil) and had no idea until i got a steam chat from a DB individual telling me that he (krits) is hacking... many DB people were in spectate (just being honest Bombz) and the person in the chat was telling me about someone got a demo of Krtis and were gonna report him and so on and so forth.. i simply joined the team and started playing... I was on Krits' team simply because i've played with him many times before and enjoying ubering (along with other people) him because he's a good demo and a fun person to play tf2 with cause he's friendly and always makes a good teammate... i then got a chat to switch teams so that im not seen playing with him due to this hacking accusation... chat ignored... i simply didn't care for any accusations because i have seen him play alot and will continue to... the reason i got on this forum and stated my thoughts is because another individual pointed me to here and told me of whats happening (not krits) i couldn't believe the things i read so i just thought i'd let whoever was reading this thread and making a decision on the ban/not ban.. that there are people who stand behind him and will vouch for him.... without him asking... Krits hope to see you playing... can't wait to uber you

oh last thought... VAC exists for a reason... if it hasn't caught him ... maybe cause there's nothing to catch....

[DeJaDeW 83]

Banned

Unless Uncle Phil has parkinson's disease let me know and i'll unban.