Mini Sentries And Rankings

[DoWorkDaily 0]

Mini sentry guns give a disproportionate amount of points (+5) for how much effort they take to make compared to pretty much every other ranking statistic (capping three times would be +6, a domination is +5, five headshots is +5 and so on). This doesn't really matter, except I just finished a game of 2fort where one team had three engineers constantly building mini sentries on their bats so that opposing snipers would one shot them, only to immediately rebuild them in exactly the same spot. I don't really play non-ctf maps so maybe they're more useful there, but in virtually every instance of 2fort, I can't imagine a situation where I would want an engy to have a mini sentry over a normal one, and even less useful is an engy just building them so they get destroyed.

I like this server because generally it's one of the few where people are working together to actually win, but this strategy (and maybe rankings as a whole) kind of subverts that.

Edited October 18, 2013 by DoWorkDaily

[Barbaro 466]

Minishits are aids. I only see idiots and butthurt dwellers use one. While sure the sentry does have it's uses as a combat weapon and more oriented towards an offensive engineer, the regular Sentry is far more worth the investment. I can kill an engi with a Gunslinger in about 3.5 seconds once I have my eyes set on him, in almost any class except Medic.

Sounds like they're farming points though, yet another low for their already bad choices in terms of fighting. Thankfully their effords will be in vain as the higher ranking peeps can make almost four times as much in ranking and in a short amount of time, then these engineers will ever hope to achive.

2Fort's a tricky one, unless the engineer has help...or puts the minisentry in an unreachable and sometimes in an exploit/glitched area, then it might have some use. Other than that, it's worthless.

[Climhazzard 654]

Another mini-sentry post huh?

Mini-sentries are NOT against the rules. People can use them if they want. If they bug everyone so much, learn to class change to soldier and hit it with 2 rockets.

Yes they give a lot of points, but does it really matter? Play the game and have fun. If mini-sentries make you rage, go play something else. They are part of the game.

[JMaster299 654]

I'm with Climhazzard on this one. People are free to play how ever they want to pay with in the server rules and the rules do allow people to use any item they choose. I some times go Gunslinger, even on defense or in 2Fort, because I want to change things up. A mini-sentry can't be healed like a normal one can so it ends up usually being more work for me to keep one up then it does to sit back and let a full sentry do it's job.

A staff member may have to correct me on this one but I am fairly certain it is not up to the server owner to dictate how many points are awarded for each action. It is my understanding that server owners pay to have their server listed with a stat service, Lotus uses gameME but there are other ones out there, and it is that stat service that sets the point value for each action. Again, I would need a staff member to confirm this but if it is accurate you would need to complain to gameME about how many stats building a mini-sentry gives if you don't like it.

Edited October 18, 2013 by JMaster299

[fever 9,884]

No problems here with mini's...and I play 2Fort a lot and haven't seen this tactic at all. MS are easy to take down, and if positioned well can be effective...I respect the Barbaro....but I think with MS, it is like Marmite, you either love them or hate them

[Sphagnum Peat Moss 748]

I'm with Climhazzard as well. Just because you don't feel like fighting against a particular weapon isn't a valid reason to say someone can't or shouldn't use it.

[Jabberwock 273]

Until blowback is removed from pyros, I'll never think that mini-sentries deserve removin'. Plenty of cheap things in the game. Live long and get shot fulla holes. It's all fun.

[Nano 7,892]

confirmed about the points.

[JMaster299 654]

confirmed about the points.

Confirmed that the point value is set by gameME and not Lotus?