TF2 Update Broke Server Plugins [01-10-2014]

[Mana 3,867]

Today's TF2 update broke server plugins.

 

I will get them restored as soon as possible.

 

EDIT:
Fixed. Servers will be coming back with plugins as they restart.

Edited October 1, 2014 by Mana

[Se7en 10,762]

Never fails.

[luop90 4,400]

Valve did it again.

 

Lovely.

[DeatH_D 899]

Who knows, one point Valve might try and keep there updates compatible with plugins

 

 

Good joke, I know

[Nano 7,892]

Sourcemod and metamod are third party programs used by community servers and valve isn't responsible to make sure they work with any changes.

If valve cared at all about community servers then of course something could be worked out to prevent stuff like this happening, but the fact of the matter is valve could give a fuck less about the community servers anymore. As a company they don't care that community servers allowed the game to stay alive up to this point, their focus is on maximizing profit going forward. Nowadays they feel they can make more money without community servers so they make changes regardless of the impact. It's just not a consideration to them anymore. Developers will have to keep adding band aids and patches retroactively for as long as they can.

[Ruby 9,039]

Sourcemod and metamod are third party programs used by community servers and valve isn't responsible to make sure they work with any changes.

If valve cared at all about community servers then of course something could be worked out to prevent stuff like this happening, but the fact of the matter is valve could give a fuck less about the community servers anymore. As a company they don't care that community servers allowed the game to stay alive up to this point, their focus is on maximizing profit going forward. Nowadays they feel they can make more money without community servers so they make changes regardless of the impact. It's just not a consideration to them anymore. Developers will have to keep adding band aids and patches retroactively for as long as they can.

Dedicating extra resources towards one single mod, no matter how important it is, opens up an entire can of worms of "valve why didn't you fund/support us as well". Pretty much the only company that worked with main mod makers in the past was Mojang, and it was later revealed they only did so because they actually bought some rights to the mod they were supporting (their dishonesty in that was later punished by major non-Mojang contributors who revoked their code from the project and thus essentially nuked it). Big modding frameworks like SourceMod are generally open sourced, so Valve can't have financial interest in them. It's like that in almost any game - new patch comes out, mods and frameworks which relied on decompiled and deobfuscated source code break. SourceMod actually breaks very rarely compared to others.

Valve also does not profit in the slightest from their own servers or the community servers as TF2 is free to play and there's no "pay for multiplayer" like it is with Destiny or some other console games. Actually, a more viable financial model for Valve would be to completely let the community manage their own servers as they wouldn't have to pay for them.

[DeatH_D 899]

Grrrrr they broke P-REC AGAIN.. Back to 2.0.5

[Mana 3,867]

Sourcemod and metamod are third party programs used by community servers and valve isn't responsible to make sure they work with any changes.

If valve cared at all about community servers then of course something could be worked out to prevent stuff like this happening, but the fact of the matter is valve could give a fuck less about the community servers anymore. As a company they don't care that community servers allowed the game to stay alive up to this point, their focus is on maximizing profit going forward. Nowadays they feel they can make more money without community servers so they make changes regardless of the impact. It's just not a consideration to them anymore. Developers will have to keep adding band aids and patches retroactively for as long as they can.

If I recall correct there was a time when the Sourcemod team was given early access to file in order to make Sourcemod compatible with the updates.

It was enough. But it didn't last long.

[StabbyMcBoom 0]

Are donor features supposed to be working? Chat color no longer looks customized and 'menu' doesn't appear to function.

[Mana 3,867]

Are donor features supposed to be working? Chat color no longer looks customized and 'menu' doesn't appear to function.

I figured out the problem. It should be working on most servers now. Others will get fixed once they restart.

[--- 691]

Broken again.

[Mana 3,867]

Yes, will be back on map change.

[-AxD- 528]

Mine are still broken.