DeatH_D 899 #1 Posted April 28, 2015 http://www.dota2.com/684/ http://www.dota2.com/684/ http://www.dota2.com/684/ http://www.dota2.com/684/ Io Relocate double click now teleports to fountainYESS Legion Commander Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade to Legion Commander: Duel lasts until either Legion Commander or her target dies. Ends if duelists are ever more than 2,000 range apart. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dr. Obvious 14,606 #2 Posted April 28, 2015 Yeah, there are a shitload of changes. Basically, new game. xD I like the new items, but the game basically evolved into a glasscannon set. It all makes Omni even more important for the team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fever 9,884 #3 Posted April 28, 2015 Time for a coffee and a long read. From the first few lines it would seem that this is the "gankers" update. "Mud Golems no longer have Spell Immunity" - praaaaise the Lord, it's a miracle! Alchemist can now cast Aghanim's Scepter to directly grant any allied hero all Aghanim's Scepter bonuses as a buff (the hero upgrade and the stat upgrade). The scepter is consumed in the process. Multiple instances of this buff do not stack. Alchemist can target himself as well - holy crap! Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade to Centaur: Stampede reduces all incoming damage by 70% and allows allies to run through obstructions (trees, cliffs, etc). Destroys trees - this sounds awesome Observer wards should now be plentiful. I reckon the game times are going to come down a bit. Nice ags upgrade for WK. Wards taking one slot is awesome. The ability to consume items is also very interesting. Arcanes are cheaper and can be upgraded with a mec to offer more late game viability. Less slots required for stock support items (wards,arcanes, mec). Tangos can be used to eat wards for increased healing O_o. It's a win/win for supports. Now a ganking/pushing game rather than farming. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dr. Obvious 14,606 #4 Posted April 28, 2015 Yeah, new invis items... guess sentry wards are more important now then ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nostaroi 26 #5 Posted April 28, 2015 There are some interesting sides to this patch. Farmgold is reduced. Ancients are less magic imune. Support alchemist is going to be imbalanced. To be honest i can't wait to play slark, drow and Tiny in this patch... it comes out later this week right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fever 9,884 #6 Posted April 28, 2015 It's out after SL so any time I guess although for some reason Thursday is in my mind... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nostaroi 26 #7 Posted April 28, 2015 Hmmm thats enough time to sort everything out... also the fact that Track from bounty hunter now shows the current gold is actually pretty good... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IIGrahamII 10 #8 Posted April 28, 2015 LC can have Aghanims now im gunna be dueling for days. Quite literally if neither of us can kill each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Skaila 5,462 #9 Posted April 28, 2015 WANNA DUEL ME! xD Gonna play her again too xD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fever 9,884 #10 Posted April 28, 2015 LC can have Aghanims now im gunna be dueling for days. Quite literally if neither of us can kill each other. Yeah, first thing I thought when I read about LC is that Force Staff is gonna be mandatory against her when playing support...but the only way to break the duel is to move 2000 units away. Is support Pudge the new LC counter? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dr. Obvious 14,606 #11 Posted April 28, 2015 At least the whole "gold for kills is AoE" is helpful for supports now. Also, seriously, give heroes that already have a bash an extra bash item. Sure. Makes sense. Today on "how to be permastunned". inb4 "SOLO LANE OR FEED" xD Alchemist can now cast Aghanim's Scepter to directly grant any allied hero all Aghanim's Scepter bonuses as a buff (the hero upgrade and the stat upgrade). The scepter is consumed in the process. Multiple instances of this buff do not stack. Alchemist can target himself as well - holy crap! The ability to consume items is also very interesting. [..] Less slots required for stock support items (wards,arcanes, mec). Tangos can be used to eat wards for increased healing O_o. I'd call it the "consumable update". You can basically consume everything. xD That moonshine item is cool, too - consumed, it gives you 60 perma attack speed, so you can have that (at a price), and still a free slot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IIGrahamII 10 #12 Posted April 28, 2015 WANNA DUEL ME! xD Gonna play her again too xD Is this irl or in game because im more than happy to dress up as LC and duel you Yeah, first thing I thought when I read about LC is that Force Staff is gonna be mandatory against her when playing support...but the only way to break the duel is to move 2000 units away. Is support Pudge the new LC counter? I guess so but i mean it also depends because i mean if he isnt 2000 units away and hooks all you are gunna get is LC walking backwards and forwards towards where the duel is taking place. xD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dr. Obvious 14,606 #13 Posted April 28, 2015 I guess so but i mean it also depends because i mean if he isnt 2000 units away and hooks all you are gunna get is LC walking backwards and forwards towards where the duel is taking place. xD Good thing is: while LC is walking around, she can't attack anything else, so you basically could ... ...oh glod... get force staff each, push your teammate into your spawn, LC will follow... TROLOLOLOLO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Skaila 5,462 #14 Posted April 28, 2015 Observer Ward Observer Wards now come in single increments Cost and restock time reduced by half and stock doubled Observer Wards now provide a 50 XP bounty when destroyed Attacking a ward can no longer miss (same for Sentry Wards) Is this irl or in game because im more than happy to dress up as LC and duel you I like you *nods* 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fever 9,884 #15 Posted April 28, 2015 Observer Ward Cost and restock time reduced by half and stock doubled I think this is a big mistake. I liked that wards were a precious resource and you never quite had enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Skaila 5,462 #16 Posted April 28, 2015 I know in the beginning you had 4 I think. Usually support took two to ward the runes. And when I was midding, I grabbed a pair too to place mid Especially for Pudgiewudgie Not sure how this will pan out. I kind of liked how it was switched to 2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fever 9,884 #17 Posted April 28, 2015 I know in the beginning you had 4 I think. Usually support took two to ward the runes. And when I was midding, I grabbed a pair too to place mid Especially for Pudgiewudgie Not sure how this will pan out. I kind of liked how it was switched to 2. Yeah, max in stock was 4. I think it's been brought in to get people to use sentries more. I think supports are going to be constantly warding/dewarding which makes a supports job significantly less interesting. We'll see, but on paper it's not exactly thrilling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Skaila 5,462 #18 Posted April 28, 2015 I know, I'm usually support in ranked games since I enjoy it more than trying to kill things. People also usually appreciate more there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dr. Obvious 14,606 #19 Posted April 28, 2015 People also usually appreciate more there. I lol'd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IIGrahamII 10 #20 Posted April 28, 2015 Observer Ward Observer Wards now come in single increments Cost and restock time reduced by half and stock doubled Observer Wards now provide a 50 XP bounty when destroyed Attacking a ward can no longer miss (same for Sentry Wards) This doesn't really worry me too much seeing as though i play carry everything and never need to buy wards however that being said that 50 XP bounty i'll be racking up the levels like anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fever 9,884 #21 Posted April 28, 2015 I lol'd. I'd say Skaila's right. When I say I'll play support people seem to really appreciate it...when they talk...which is probably about 80% of the time. This doesn't really worry me too much seeing as though i play carry everything and never need to buy wards however that being said that 50 XP bounty i'll be racking up the levels like anything. If I was supporting you there's no way you're getting lane farm, stacked camps and ward bounty xD 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IIGrahamII 10 #22 Posted April 28, 2015 Fever i'll be happy with just the ward bounty so the lane farm and stack camps are yours. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fever 9,884 #23 Posted April 28, 2015 Fever i'll be happy with just the ward bounty so the lane farm and stack camps are yours. Duly noted! Glad I recently started playing veno...good for hanging and pushing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IIGrahamII 10 #24 Posted April 28, 2015 Duly noted! Glad I recently started playing veno...good for hanging and pushing This is carry Veno right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fever 9,884 #25 Posted April 28, 2015 Duly noted! Glad I recently started playing veno...good for hanging and pushing hanging? Thanks tablet...ffs, I meant ganking ...or maybe I just meant hanging around leeching exp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites