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Is It Possible That The Addition Of Koth/ctf Is Detrimental To Stock Servers

Koth/CTF should not be on a 32+ pub stock server.  

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  1. 1. Should a stock server with 32+ people contain Koth/Ctf maps?

    • No, 32+ people is way too much for an arena sized map, and CTF maps take too long
    • Koth is fine, its the CTF maps that annoy me
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    • CTF is a fun offensive/defensive map for both sides whereas KoTH can be incredibly one sided
    • Both should remain on the Stock servers since they are Stock maps
    • They should remain on the server because I enjoy both CP, CTF, And Koth in a convient localized server.
  2. 2. If they were to be removed what would you prefer to have happen?

    • 24/7 CTF map containing all stock CTF maps
    • 24/7 koth/arena server with a smaller player limit around 14


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Generally I, as well as other people have a distaste for CTF/KotH maps on the stock servers. When ctf_turbine or ctf_sawmill comes up, people usually wait their 10 minutes until they can RTV it, only to have some other donor votemap to KoTH nucleus, which puts us right back to ctf_sawmill after a 10 minute waiting period for rtv-ing out of nucleus. The solution? Take them out, and put them on a seperate server. People will still go to a 24/7 stock ctf server if it has the Lotus banner on it. Also, a 32+ people on a Koth map is way too much. The maps were made from a small arena based map, only for 14-16 people max, I can see maybe viaduct being the only one as the exception. Take it into consideration. I'm sure a few other people on the forums agree with me as well as a few other Lotus members.

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True, Henry. However, atm we do not have KOTH maps on Stocks servers. I don't know if/when they're going to be put back on there. And BTW, the Stock Maps regulars normally keep the maps on pl_Badwater, cp_Steel, cp_Dustbowl, pl_Goldrush, and ctf_Turbine. We tolerate some maps, but others, such as cp_Egypt and pl_Hoodoo (pl_Pipeline is pretty much a non-issue since practically no-one votes to it and if it's next in the rotation a mapvote elsewhere gets started), either see people leaving or get mapvotted away from. CTF_Sawmill is soon to become another map in the latter category.

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There's a very good chance that KOTH will make it into the Stock Maps servers because it comes with the default mapcycle (which is what we have used for the stock servers since the begging). I removed them for now however since I'm not at home and I can't see how those maps play out.

Might just set all KOTH maps to use a 20 minute map cycle and go back to using Valve's default mapcycle.

You sure you weren't playing ctf_Sawmill? Or maybe Mana removed KOTH maps from just Stocks 1...

EDIT: Linky

Edited by Spartan_0214

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I could've sworn the servers update themselves to look like the master server, so yeah, anything removed would automatically add itself back in. Since Mana deleted the maps on the 15th and the update dropped on the 17th, they should be back in all rotations. You might wanna check Stock 1; you may not be seeing it because nobody wants to go there when you're playing.

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