How?

[Arek[DR] 1]

How to defeat clan of lotus,when enemy makes much masters warlocks and staff adepts, and I play dragon I win clans with everybody, I finished game without problem and lotus I do not give radiums someone will help me??

[Mana 3,867]

Whenever I play dragon I build a mixture of units and it all seems to work out, just don't build alot of the same units try different units... Also Warlocks and Master Warlocks have a weakness to fire so if you use Archers with fire arrow on them it should help in killing them.

[Arek[DR] 1]

I know, but this does not suffice I tried different techniques.

Thanks after it works above this still how someone has onto Lotus write best way please

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

Mass dragon warriors/chi shield and about 5 geisha and your good to go. If you want even more advantage then juicy up your units with the upgrades.

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

this is how i go vs lotus i make about 10 archears with fire, about 6 gaisha. 10 samurais with dragon skin, 4 kabukis with firecrakers, and about 5 cannons but when you use the firecrakers use them on the staffs them actibate the samurais dragon skin and attack the staffs and they will die after that kill all that army. also try to get some upgrades on your army.

[DDD 0]

If Warlocks are supposed to be weak against fire, then why does Raiders do pitiful amount of damage on them? I tried seeing how long it will take 4 Raiders to kill a Warlock... instead the lone Warlock killed all 4 of them

[Mana 3,867]

A lotus peasant can kill a Raider... your comparing a crappy unit here .

[Arek[DR] 1]

Thanks!! How you want this write some tacticses still

[DDD 0]

A lotus peasant can kill a Raider... your comparing a crappy unit here wink.gif.

Sad but true. However I found one unit that the Raiders can actually kill, "Balistaman". They do decent damage on this unit, I don't know why. Just goes to show how Liquid likes to mess around with the Serpent Clan too much they will eventually f*ck up something.

If Liquid ever updated Battle Realms again you can bet they will tone down the Crossbowmans damage and weakness bolt effect duration.

Liquids idea of balancing the game "Look the Crossbowman killed a Warlock with only 8 shots, let's tone the damage a bit so it will take 20 to 25 hits before they can kill anything."

Atleast we all know this wont happen anymore.

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

25 hits?! are you crazy...the whole point of battle gears is to make killing the opponent easily. If liquid made all lvl 3 units 10x stronger than lvl 1 units then everyone would just mass lvl 3. Battle Gears are the exact opposite, there is no good or bad, just how you use it.

[DDD 0]

Did you understand my post or you just got a bug up your ass?

My previous posts is a sarcasm(look at a dictionary if you haven't heard of it). What I'm trying to say is every time Liquid fixed Battle Realms with a Battle PAck upgrade is that they will very likely weaken another Serpent unit because of only God knows why Liquids understanding of balance is weakening something the Serpent has. Check below for some stuff Liquid messed up with the Serpent.

-Try killing a a single Ballistaman using a 4 Cannoneer and count the number of shots the cannoneer will make before they actually kill it.

-Shinja use to have the same damage as aswordsman and can match up to Otomo. Now try killing a single Wolf unit. His damage is so low that it is almost negated by the Wolfs healing ability. Vetkin can actually out do him in terms of damage.

-Before the swordsman glass sword bg will just totally drain a swordman of health and stamina.On BP3 they die.

There's more but that's up to you to figure out.

Try asking yourself why keep toning down the Serpent clan, when Serpent is not a exactly a dominating clan.

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

glass sword i can totally understand because imagine rushing whith it..

you would kill all their units no matter what tier it would be leaving your guys to heal a little bit before taking out his town

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

Yeah, its so logical that I have a bug my ass. I know its sarcasm, but believe it or not, people use that as an excuse to cover up what they want to say. I know what you mean about crossbows killing warlocks, but these games have been tested many times and this was the way it turned out best. Unless you can make a better battle realms, don't complain.

[[LOT]rundown 3]

I agree with wolfbite

And cannoneers are weak vs piercing weapons and ballistamen are strong vs blunt so like 4 cannoneers will have a hard time trying to kill a ballistaman, cannoneers are already stacked with their smoke, they can't be good against every unit, if you want to kill a ballistaman with serpent try using ronins

[Darky{III} 0]

its called resistance, it might take forever for cannon to kill ballis, but takes few hits from musk, its call the circle of whatever.. if u know the game u will try to make that unit weakness and counter, thats why this is a strategy game , not a game where u can make any unit and win omg DDD, serpent is dominating if u know how to use it

[Dragonsoul 3]

I think everything in this game is well balanced. Lotus is slightly stronger, but Serpent can be deadly if you use their battlegears right. This game is not about pure strength. The Serpent battlegears make up for their physical weaknesses.

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

Dragon and Wolf can be a bit weak in the beginning. Shaled bezerks and dragon keep may take some time to make. But in the end it pays off.

[Guest [LOT]Phate]

also some clans rely highly on yin and yang like lotus and dragon

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

yea like dragon deffence sucks first tiers will die too fast but a good player will be able to handle it long enough to make 2nd and 3rd tier units with BG. dragon BG is one of the best i think. for the wolf its hard enough to keep up with the rice and water suply since they use a lot more than any other clan but their resistance to almost anything and full healing is great......again as i said you really need to be a good player to be able to use these clans effectibly.

[[LOT]diablo 1]

y cant they lower the cost of poison for bandits and crossbows. thats y i try to rush with bandits. but by the tme i kill them i only have 3 yang. but whatever.... and bg really makes a difference........ u have to think about it... for example..... ballistamen can kill musk with scope. but if u make blast shot u kill ballistamen.. i know people dont make blast shot .... but its just a thought... and when u r dying u arent really thinking stragiht to change your strategy and make different bg

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

i dont know d ... all this time off of br really made me focus more... like i dont..... loose control the way i used to .... like that time i beat u....that was a miracle...... either that or that gf of yours is getting too much in your head.....oh yea expect those phone calls when you least want them .......

[[LOT]diablo 1]

thats bullshit....... and it wasnt a miracle..... u rarely c ppl make ronins and they killed me...... i did not c that coming

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

Wow diablo actually lost a game. That is a miracle.

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

i know......... to me .......... that is even more unbeliebable....

[[LOT]diablo 1]

huh.......... i just had a long 1 vs 1.... and those towers made it hard for me to win... but i got him ...nice