Banning Issues

[BOOM=DYNAMITE 2]

I brought this up a couple of weeks ago and you guys chose to ignore me... well today was an example of how lotus servers are turning bad quickly.

I went to play today (saturday) and the only 2 servers that had anyone in it were Hightower/2 Fort.... ON A WEEKEND ! That is bad.

So I decided to play a little hightower hoping one of the better servers would open up. I was banned twice trying to get rid of players who were trolling. The last issue I had was heavies jumping up on the rock just taunting and eating sandviches. 3 or 4 different guys who were not even playing. For trying to kick them, I was the one banned. People don't even know why they vote yes for these things, and to have such a low vote rate for it to be a success, I get banned. One of the players who was trolling was NOOB SAIBOT.

Good players should not be discouraged from playing on lotus servers, yet that is what is happening by letting bad players take over. I hope the admins start to figure this out before lotus servers empty out for good.

BOOM

[- Mike - 2,728]

See something, say something.

http://forums.gamingterritory.com/topic/18424-how-to-request-a-ban-read-first/

Make it official if you see people doing that.

[Chez-Box 3,240]

also !calladmin to call someone to the server

[Nano 7,892]

Saw more than a dozen full servers when I was playing this morning... Perhaps you don't have all of them saved to your favs? The "internet" search tab is horrible at showing you everything.

[Sphagnum Peat Moss 748]

Hightower and 2fort seem to attract retarditude. I already didn't play 2fort much, but that crap is why I stopped playing hightower several months ago.

[Ruby 9,039]

If there is a problem don't hesitate to call us admins - that is our job, to make sure that the experience on our servers is pleasant for everyone. This also includes kicking AFKs if their number goes up to the point that a significant amount players won't leave spawn.

Also, EU servers are full to the point we have difficulties finding an empty one for our Sunday pratices...

[fever 9,884]

I never seem to struggle finding a full-ish server. I appreciate sometimes the server I might want to play on might not have that many in it or might be full but there are so many other Lotus servers it's a non issue really. Don't give up on the Lotus servers, they're great

[BOOM=DYNAMITE 2]

Here we go again.

Banned because I wanted my team to have less snipers and spies. I was told "its a pub".

But instead of ignoring me... they BAN ME for speaking out on trying to get people to work as a team.

One of them a lotus recruit.

I told you the server was going downhill and that is exactly what is happening. You can barely find a good game on lotus anymore. Goldrush is empty, Badlands empty... both of those used to be packed non stop.

Oh well. When you let bad players take over, this is what you get.

BOOM

It was L-R SpyPersona. I have him voting yes on a ban and telling me it wasn't him. I have a screenshot if you really want it.

These are the types of people you want representing lotus???

[Se7en 10,762]

http://stats.lotusclan.com/player_histories/chat/21664

[Kitten 1,813]

I don't think screenshots will be necessary. =)

Sep 12, 2013 6:54:55 pm 52,004 United StatesDaddy Fat Sak 20 bucks says he comes back after 30 minutes
Sep 12, 2013 6:54:54 pm 216 United StatesL-r | SpyPersona now we can have fun!
Sep 12, 2013 6:54:53 pm 476 United Statesspencerthepumpkin
Sep 12, 2013 6:54:46 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants lololol
Sep 12, 2013 6:54:42 pm 2,029 United StatesJWeiz Lets all take a moment and apreciate his departure
Sep 12, 2013 6:54:35 pm 25,949 United StatesNova | Skywhales YEA
Sep 12, 2013 6:54:19 pm 77,046 United Statesalikestrains lol
Sep 12, 2013 6:54:18 pm 216 United StatesL-r | SpyPersona so bye bye
Sep 12, 2013 6:54:15 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants fuckin love democracy
Sep 12, 2013 6:54:12 pm 216 United StatesL-r | SpyPersona I didn't kick you, all the players did
Sep 12, 2013 6:54:11 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE screenshot taken
Sep 12, 2013 6:54:03 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants just leave us casuals alone
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:58 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants lol
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:51 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE i want to tell everyone
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:49 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants voteban boom goes the dynamite
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:48 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE let me know why you are kicking me
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:43 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE i'm going to the message board
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:39 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE hey spypersona
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:37 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants he is a very troubled soul
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:36 pm 476 United Statesspencerthepumpkin yup
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:33 pm 216 United StatesL-r | SpyPersona that's when you voteban
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:29 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants lolol
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:27 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace great he is back
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:22 pm 25,949 United StatesNova | Skywhales lol
Sep 12, 2013 6:53:12 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants later dude
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:55 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants it means ur gettin kicked
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:52 pm 2,936 CanadaGreen Bananas ill trade this crate for another one
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:48 pm 216 United StatesL-r | SpyPersona leave if you want something else
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:47 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE what does "being a pub" have to do with anything?
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:47 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace type !votekick
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:37 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE cuz i want my team to play together?
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:37 pm 216 United StatesL-r | SpyPersona no one said you had to stay
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:36 pm 476 United Statesspencerthepumpkin your character was smiling
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:36 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants so u might be right
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:32 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants this is a pub
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:19 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE if you think 4 snipers is a good team then you don't know how to play
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:06 pm 216 United StatesL-r | SpyPersona I do know actually
Sep 12, 2013 6:52:01 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE and lotus should know that
Sep 12, 2013 6:51:55 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE then u have no clue how to play this game spy
Sep 12, 2013 6:51:39 pm 216 United StatesL-r | SpyPersona there's nothing wrong with the Red team
Sep 12, 2013 6:51:38 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants votekick boom goes the dynamite
Sep 12, 2013 6:51:23 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace no just your team
Sep 12, 2013 6:51:20 pm 216 United StatesL-r | SpyPersona then get lost
Sep 12, 2013 6:51:12 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE server full of fucktards
Sep 12, 2013 6:51:06 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE ha
Sep 12, 2013 6:51:03 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE 4 snipers
Sep 12, 2013 6:50:31 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants I tried
Sep 12, 2013 6:50:26 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants awh
Sep 12, 2013 6:50:07 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE neither team has a fuckin clue
Sep 12, 2013 6:50:05 pm 12,657 United StatesMrHersheyBar \w
Sep 12, 2013 6:50:04 pm 476 United Statesspencerthepumpkin you hate that team too?
Sep 12, 2013 6:49:46 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE 4 spies at bottom of scoreboard
Sep 12, 2013 6:48:53 pm 63 United StatesStrawberry Kid spy spy
Sep 12, 2013 6:47:53 pm 25,949 United StatesNova | Skywhales dat crit lol
Sep 12, 2013 6:47:16 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace less spies
Sep 12, 2013 6:47:10 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants votekick boom goes the dynamite
Sep 12, 2013 6:47:07 pm 25,949 United StatesNova | Skywhales why do we have three spys???
Sep 12, 2013 6:46:36 pm 77,046 United Statesalikestrains aww man i hate stacks
Sep 12, 2013 6:46:25 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants great
Sep 12, 2013 6:46:21 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants why did he join our team
Sep 12, 2013 6:46:09 pm 476 United Statesspencerthepumpkin we could just kill him, eh
Sep 12, 2013 6:46:07 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace sorry i dont like being medic for a long amount of time
Sep 12, 2013 6:45:57 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants we planned the whole thing
Sep 12, 2013 6:45:53 pm 476 United Statesspencerthepumpkin indeed
Sep 12, 2013 6:45:49 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants to hear you rage
Sep 12, 2013 6:45:43 pm 476 United Statesspencerthepumpkin plz apologize
Sep 12, 2013 6:45:43 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE fuckin idiots
Sep 12, 2013 6:45:35 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE WHY DO WE HAVE 2 SPIES 2 SNIPERS AND A SCOUT???
Sep 12, 2013 6:45:34 pm 476 United Statesspencerthepumpkin no
Sep 12, 2013 6:45:25 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE WORST FUCKIN TEAM EVER
Sep 12, 2013 6:44:39 pm 63 United StatesStrawberry Kid spy engineer
Sep 12, 2013 6:44:34 pm 25,949 United StatesNova | Skywhales dam
Sep 12, 2013 6:44:09 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace its funny how the second ever crate i opened got me an unusual
Sep 12, 2013 6:42:17 pm 63 United StatesStrawberry Kid spy soldier
Sep 12, 2013 6:42:04 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace i hate spies
Sep 12, 2013 6:41:23 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE noob scout at spawn
Sep 12, 2013 6:40:45 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants lol whole team is afk
Sep 12, 2013 6:40:39 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace i vill be ur doktor
Sep 12, 2013 6:39:13 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants lol @ 2 sgs in corner
Sep 12, 2013 6:38:45 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace thats how it works marcus
Sep 12, 2013 6:38:41 pm 63 United StatesStrawberry Kid spy
Sep 12, 2013 6:38:33 pm 5,324 United Statesmarcuss im in pyroland and everyone has a squiky voice
Sep 12, 2013 6:38:22 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace but our tops are better
Sep 12, 2013 6:38:13 pm 77,046 United Statesalikestrains lol yeah but how the heck didi we even win that match
Sep 12, 2013 6:38:07 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants but your top players are so sexy
Sep 12, 2013 6:38:01 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace i just got here and have 7
Sep 12, 2013 6:37:55 pm 15,025 United StatesTheClamFace lol
Sep 12, 2013 6:37:50 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE we have 5 guys with 1 or 0 points.. yea good team
Sep 12, 2013 6:37:35 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants
Sep 12, 2013 6:37:32 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants actually a good team
Sep 12, 2013 6:37:28 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE do you guys even know how to play?
Sep 12, 2013 6:37:25 pm 799 United StatesYoda Pants lolol
Sep 12, 2013 6:37:22 pm 1,497 United StatesBOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE WORST FUCKIN TEAM EVER

Pretty sure you were votekicked by the server for constantly saying things like "server full of fucktards."

*edit* Looks like 7 beat me to it.

[- Mike - 2,728]

I'm really liking these chat logs.

[SpyPersona 20]

What I meant by saying it wasn't me banning him is that it takes a majority rule to ban or kick since I'm neither an admin or a donator. He kept switching to spectator then to the winning team so I'm pretty sure everyone was tired of his shenanigans. If I did anything wrong in any way, I do apologize.

[-MW- 5]

I know for a fact that the player known as BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE is the one causing problems and playing victim here.

I have never played a single game without him causing MAJOR problems via chat-spam and harassing not only the other team, but also his own team.

He is frustrating beyond measure and I know of another recruit who can verify that.

He will harass anyone who tries to tell him to stop harassing everyone. He switches teams at the first sign of losing, and I have even seen him switch back if the team he switched to suddenly loses momentum. He spams chat between rounds praising himself.

Put simply; BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE ruins servers, and enjoys doing so.

Last game I was in he was kicked then came back in immediately after. That is the level of audacity and hardheadedness he posses.

I don't blame Spy Persona for trying to ban him. I have done the same multiple times. It seems he just wants to pick on a new recruit this time.

In my opinion BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE is the problem here. Not anyone else.

I say ban him outright. He won't learn anything unless you do.

I brought this up a couple of weeks ago and you guys chose to ignore me... well today was an example of how lotus servers are turning bad quickly.

I went to play today (saturday) and the only 2 servers that had anyone in it were Hightower/2 Fort.... ON A WEEKEND ! That is bad.

So I decided to play a little hightower hoping one of the better servers would open up. I was banned twice trying to get rid of players who were trolling. The last issue I had was heavies jumping up on the rock just taunting and eating sandviches. 3 or 4 different guys who were not even playing. For trying to kick them, I was the one banned. People don't even know why they vote yes for these things, and to have such a low vote rate for it to be a success, I get banned. One of the players who was trolling was NOOB SAIBOT.

Good players should not be discouraged from playing on lotus servers, yet that is what is happening by letting bad players take over. I hope the admins start to figure this out before lotus servers empty out for good.

BOOM

I also want to address the issues you put forth on your posts:

1) You obviously don't have all the Lotus servers placed on a favorites list. I was also playing on Saturday and found over 8 games with 24/24 players.

2) You have no right to tell other players how to play. This is not your game to dictate the actions within.

3) You were not trying to kick people who weren't playing, you were trying to kick active players. Repercussion's were bound to kick in.

4) If you were banned from a server; the majority of players took issue with what you were doing. It is not hard to figure that out.

5) Good players are NOT discouraged from playing on Lotus servers. In fact, there is only one type of person discouraged from playing on Lotus servers: Jerks who want to ruin the game for everyone else.

Here we go again.

Banned because I wanted my team to have less snipers and spies. I was told "its a pub".

But instead of ignoring me... they BAN ME for speaking out on trying to get people to work as a team.

One of them a lotus recruit.

I told you the server was going downhill and that is exactly what is happening. You can barely find a good game on lotus anymore. Goldrush is empty, Badlands empty... both of those used to be packed non stop.

Oh well. When you let bad players take over, this is what you get.

BOOM

It was L-R SpyPersona. I have him voting yes on a ban and telling me it wasn't him. I have a screenshot if you really want it.

These are the types of people you want representing lotus???

Oh this ones gonna be fun:

1) You're right. It's a pub. The majority of players voted to kick you, from a pub. Everybody has rights on Lotus servers. Anybody can play any class. You don't get to decide how people play their game. If you were banned, it was by a majority and you deserved it.

2) I have never failed to find a good game on Lotus. There is no excuse for this. TF2 is what you make of it, just like any other video game. Nobody is forcing you to play it. Feel free to leave Lotus alone and go ruin other servers. We won't miss you.

3) I have seen multiple players leave games when you join. I constantly find myself apologizing for your actions to other players. The problem doesn't appear to be with bad players, but instead with awful people.

4) SpyPersona has every right to vote any way he wants.

You don't get that people don't like being told what to do and have someone take all the credit for hard fought team-work. Stop trying to pass yourself off as the victim here. You are the problem.

Finally, STOP PRETENDING TO BE ANY GOOD AT THIS GAME.

If you recall, I got a domination taunt kill on you the last time you played against me, with 0 effort.

tl;dr: Leave Lotus alone.

From,

EVERYONE.

Edited September 13, 2013 by MorW

[Climhazzard 654]

yep, he's just a griefer trying to get a rise out of us. Go play Skial plz

[BOOM=DYNAMITE 2]

TF2 is a team based game.

You are wrong saying I don't have the right to tell people how to play. Actually I do. They don't have to listen to me.

You say I "switch teams when i am loosing" That is wrong. I switch when people refuse to work as a team. I switch from the winning team if it is full of snipers/spies/scouts as well, but you don't say anything about that do you?

Having said that, it doesn't mean I should be banned!!!!!!

If that is they way you guys want it, so be it.

[-MW- 5]

TF2 is a team based game.

You are wrong saying I don't have the right to tell people how to play. Actually I do. They don't have to listen to me.

You say I "switch teams when i am loosing" That is wrong. I switch when people refuse to work as a team. I switch from the winning team if it is full of snipers/spies/scouts as well, but you don't say anything about that do you?

Having said that, it doesn't mean I should be banned!!!!!!

If that is they way you guys want it, so be it.

1) There is a difference between trying to co-ordinate team work and shouting obscenities at specific players.

2) Abandoning your team instead of putting in any effort is not being a team player.

3) I have never seen you switch from a winning team, but I haven't observed you playing 24/7.

The reason I want you banned is for the constant harassment and degradation you spew out every time you play. You being kicked and banned is the result of this. Nothing else.

If your abuse continues you can expect many more kicks and bans in your future.

Clean up your act and treat other players like human beings and maybe they won't kick and ban you.

This is not a difficult concept.

That is all I have left to say to you.

Edited September 13, 2013 by MorW

[BOOM=DYNAMITE 2]

1) I always ask why a certain team has so many snipers/spies/scouts

2) I then ask people to switch

3) I then start with the crap

4) I switch teams (if a person has a right to not switch, why do i not have the right to switch teams. Double standard isn't it?)

Enjoy lotus as it continues on a downward path. Badwater and Goldrush empty right now. Those two servers used to be filled with good players.

Yep, BOOM is the problem because he says "OMG WHY IS MY TEAM SO GOOD"

Which I took from another long time player

[Chez-Box 3,240]

I am sick of having to say this, but I have played with BOOM for fucking YEARS, He is a good player, a good teammate, and I have never seen him greif, or troll in all these years, stop attacking him. The people who start kicks and bans on him are ALWAYS just butt hurt because he calls his team out on the reasons for losing, and 5/5 snipers believe they are a good sniper...I have seen this play out DOZENS of times. He gets frustrated with playing with idiots, been there, done that. Shitty that SpyPersonna would do that to someone who has subbed for our UGC team... people need to treat eachother with a bit more respect...

[Nano 7,892]

What a punk. Other people can play however they want. You are being disruptive to the server. Get off your horse, and just play or move on. We certainly don't need you on our servers and there are plenty to fill your spot.