IndominusRex 13 #1 Posted March 22, 2006 Hi guys!, It's hard to use dragon against lotus since dragon don't have a good skill preventing the lotus from using Dark Canopy.. What do you do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonsoul 3 #2 Posted March 22, 2006 Yup, Dragon Spirit didn't even scratch anyone who under a capony. I think Flash Powders of Kabuki, Stun Strike of Spearman, and Concussion Smash of Guardian are the only helpful BG's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndominusRex 13 #3 Posted March 22, 2006 Sounds good, but it's hard to do the stun strike speaman because spear man don't have a good defence against magic.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonsoul 3 #4 Posted March 22, 2006 Then Flash powders and concussion smash all the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest [LOT]Phate #5 Posted March 22, 2006 and to get rid of the pesky DS use chemist with star bust rockets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndominusRex 13 #6 Posted March 22, 2006 They can still move sometimes even they are being stunned... How about if they have about 5 soul chills and 3 canopy... every single unit running near to it, then suddenly, your unit will say "OUCH" if he/she still alive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonsoul 3 #7 Posted March 24, 2006 Flash Powders need a close radius, while Concussion Smash can hit for a long distance. Just wait for the time is right and activate the BG. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordDianWei 1 #8 Posted March 27, 2006 Dragon vs lotus can only be pulled off by an expert dragon player fighting a noob lotus player. The clans are to uneven for this to be a good match up. So you get lucky and survive the dark canopy (which unfortunately is bugged and blocks numerous types of damage and battle gear that it shouldnt) so now you got your little stun strike speamen fighting staffs who are big and bad blunt damage. They get owned. So you survive the lotus DC by pulling them out from under it. The lotus jsut runs another staff out and starts the canopy up in another position. You get owned. So they dont even bring the dark canopy and you feel confident cuz you massed a ton of dragon melee. He shows up with his mass soul chill strat. His warlocks kill yoru sams in melee and your dragon warriors at ranged. His healers are better then yours. He presses B and mass soul chills you. You get owned. You hit him early and have giesha on horse back with fire archers and prevent him from getting his crypt out. You are playing on default settings like a pro ( and everyone should) and so its possible to do this. You now have a chance of winning. Other then that I would put my money on Lotus 10/10 times vs dragon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Kenji Oja 0 #9 Posted March 28, 2006 Lemme tell you something. If they start spamming the powerful Warlocks and MAster Warlocks, bring out Dragon Warriors with Flame Sword and Archers with Fire Arrows. Those dudes can kill every top-tier unit of every other clan. The Werewolf of the Wolf. The Warlocks and MAster Warlocks of the Lotus. And the Necromancer of the Serpent. I guess that was Liquid's solution to the lack of a top-tier unit for Dragon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordDianWei 1 #10 Posted March 28, 2006 id like to see them beat werewolves or some other top tier unit. maybe if you massed 30 of them... Check the damage stats again. The top tiers also deal damage that archers and dragon warriors are weak to. There would be severe casualties on both sides. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonsoul 3 #11 Posted March 28, 2006 Gah, just stun their little DC Staffs with Concussion Smash(sadly only available for those who own WotW), or Kabuki's Flash Powders. Then use the power of the DRAGON on them! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordDianWei 1 #12 Posted March 28, 2006 Flash powder does not work through DC, and staffs are blunt damage which kabukis are weak to. Concussion, like you said, is only for WotW, which doesnt solve anything because almost nobody plays it. Of course I am available to prove all of this if any of you doubt my expertise in this matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest [LOT]Phate #13 Posted March 28, 2006 what about concussion then follow after with dragon spirit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonsoul 3 #14 Posted March 28, 2006 Uhh, Staffs can't move nor attack while using DC. I didn't say anything that the Kabuki is going to live. Flash Powders can daze everyone for a long time, enough for our stage magician to run away. Yes, Concussion Smash stuns everybody for a period of time. Use Dragon Spirit on them at that time will be most effective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Grayback 0 #15 Posted March 28, 2006 Or Just Make Samurai with dragon skin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
serpenty 1 #16 Posted March 28, 2006 Warlocks can hit samurais hard even in melee.Dragon skin isnot workin enough time. And deseased can steal samurai's stamina. WotW give really power to dragon. Concussion smash is really strong BG (last stand too). But without WotW i guess the only way is stop dc by spearmans and use DS. The problem is lotus can destroy you very early. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Grayback 0 #17 Posted March 28, 2006 Or make many of them and attack the warlocks so they cant attack with magic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordDianWei 1 #18 Posted March 28, 2006 Okay some people just dont learn... Warlocks beat samurais, especially if they use dragon skin. The dragon skin drains yoru staimina then the warlocks just run off and kill you from range and dont even get hurt by the honor whirlwind. Warlocks also do magic damage in melee combat, which the sams are weak to. So again this is one of those situations where there is going to be heavy casualties on both sides. Staffs - DARK CANOPY IS BUGGED. You can not flash powder a staff and make him stop using dark canopy. Flash Powder does not work through Dark Canopy. Basically you are sending in kabukis to die. Now then, IF you use one of the two ways the dragon has to stop the dark canopy. Pay close attention to this part Dragonsoul... THE STAFF GOES INTO MELEE MODE BECAUSE HE IS NOT DOING DARK CANOPY ANYMORE. Which means (with the ways you though up) your kabuki or spearmen is now fighting his counter unit. gg k thx bye. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonsoul 3 #19 Posted March 29, 2006 Okay, if Staffs go to melee mode, why don't my Kabuki use Flash Powders on them, or maybe use Dragon Spirit right away? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordDianWei 1 #20 Posted March 29, 2006 yeah cuz you have dragon spirit ready all the time right...... Hey next time the train comes around make sure to pick me up a ticket to fantasy land. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonsoul 3 #21 Posted March 29, 2006 Okay, you are kind of right. Dragon Spirit is hardly possible to create and fire. I will check if Flashs of Kabukis work on Staffs. I'll get back to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndominusRex 13 #22 Posted March 30, 2006 Anyway, it is possible to kill a lotus with dragon in 10 minutes game... I watched someone already.. And I can do it too.. I am going to die if we play about 15 minutes or more because he will have more Warlock and more death sentry same time with healer on tower.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Grayback 0 #23 Posted March 30, 2006 Make the samurais full upgraded Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cptheslayer 2 #24 Posted March 30, 2006 dragon is the most powerful clan if and only if you can master it. But it is diffeicult and excruciating enough to watch the Dragon gets slaughtered. Now I always play br with dragon in the hope to become the master of dragon and destroy its ultimate enemies. This can be done if and only if you are really fast with your fingers. The problem is the ds, sc, and dc that give power to lotus. DW is not that important and Deseased Ones are easily be killed if there are no dc, ds. However, Deseased Ones leave their toxicating poisous air after they are killed. If the dragon does not move out of the poisonous air and ds then you will see they are all screaming as the last thing they can honor the Dragon Clan. To defeat lotus is easy if you can do the following: make use of spearman's stun, kabuki's BG(which prevents the opponents from shooting), and use dragon spirit when there is no dc, keep your archers and arah in range mode, escort them with some healers. If you can do this, then lotus will be fallen before you like they never have been before. It is hard to do this because lotus has healers too so hopefully the spirit will kill the healers or at least weaken them. (I still don't know if the kabuki's BG works through dc to prevent from shooting, if this works, then lotus should mobilize and stop using range units or get slaughtered). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aJay{III} 0 #25 Posted April 3, 2006 Hi guys!, It's hard to use dragon against lotus since dragon don't have a good skill preventing the lotus from using Dark Canopy.. What do you do? 5474[/snapback] whenever i'm dragon and my opponent is lotus, i take advantage of what i think is the lotus clans biggest weakness... they're SLOW. the best thing to do to a lotus army you're about to fight is make them RUN and make them lose they're energy.. your chances of winning would increase when your opponents unclean one's and a staff adept's have no energy. so yeah just my input on how to beat Lotus. um.. btw.. i didnt bother reading the other posts so i dont know if my tactic has been posted yet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
