Icesage (My Great Skill Made Him Cry)

[naknak 4]

Turns out I posted this in the wrong forum. I've been subject to repeated improper votebans from donator IceSage / Worst Sniper Ever, despite him spectating me for an extended period and seeing no wrongdoing. The most recent occurrence was on the NJ Harvest server this afternoon (Eastern time).

| steamname: Wrost. Snpier. Eevr.
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:18655445
| steamID64: http://steamcommunit...561197997576618
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/icesage

This mistreatment is not exclusive to me. In the original thread, one of the few respondents who addressed the substance of my complaint, Tristan, had this to say: "Quit abusing donator privileges IceSage. This isn't the first time you've put up unnecessary and obviously unwarranted votebans. I've received at least 3 complaints about you, and I'm sure there are many more instances that don't get mentioned to me."

So, I'm not the first to be victimized by this donator's abuse of his minor powers. Removal of same, or an outright ban, would benefit the community. Making me a server admin would be a good solution as well.

Nota bene: in the previous thread, some admins responded very rudely and then cried victim when shown the same rudeness in turn. I'm not here to pick chatfights and, frankly, anyone who is set off by my self-assessment of "great" is not equipped for the task anyway. So let's keep it friendly, everyone.

[Se7en 10,762]

Denied. Gave him a verbal warning.

[naknak 4]

which makes what, three warnings? Five? Ten? He's already promised not to voteban me anymore, and I believe him. Standard bully M.O. is to stay away from those who fight back.

Maybe the next good player he attacks will not go to the trouble I've gone to, and simply move on to another server where donators don't get to choose their opponents. Guys like this are cancer.

[IceSage 58]

First off, I put up votekicks / votebans when the server requests them. I simply have the ease to make it instant instead of seeing a bunch of people who aren't familiar with the server fumble to figure out which command kicks.

Secondly, I just now saw that post from Tristan. (Tristan) Please PM me on the forums or via Steam if people have an issue with something I do. I don't just "toss out votes for no reason." I never have and I never will. I do it, again, when the server requests it or the issue is obvious. (AFK player.)

I hated when donators abused voting functions in the past before I ever had donator, and I certainly wouldn't purposely do it willy-nilly now.

Again, my particular reason for putting up a voteban towards you in particular was because the server was whining about you. I tried asking you what the deal was with people wanting you gone twice, you didn't answer. I still saw people fumble to incorrectly start a vote on you, so I just tossed it up. I put the reason as "Hacking" or whatever they claimed it was. (Keyword was that I put Hacking as the reason. I don't care if I got that particular hack you were or were not using wrong.) So, players could see clear as day if they wanted to vote YES or NO to remove you from the server for "Hacking." Majority ruled. Though, like I apologized to you and said earlier... I don't believe it was fair because the ratio looked like of close. (Like 15 yes and 9 nos.)

I apologized in the other thread for upsetting you for the fact that you were removed from the server for a temp-ban. Though, I shouldn't need to defend myself or apologize for anything as I was using the voting function for what it was for. Voting. The server thought there was something fishy with you... I tossed a vote. The reason was clear as day. It went through.

It's not like you were raping me or something and I was like, "ZOMG GOTS TA GET RID OF THIS GUY" and tossed up a vote with the reason "n00b" or "omg hacks!" anything. I simply used the voting function for what it's designed to do. That's not abuse it's part of the server and game.

It was clear, concise, up front, and it went through. You're just getting upset that it went through. It's annoying, but I certainly wasn't trying to abuse the voting functions.

I wouldn't do that at all, especially since I'm the last to hear about anything anyone seems to think I'm doing wrong. (IE just now hearing of other people annoyed that I kicked them?) I don't get warnings or messages via Steam for anything so I'm oblivious to if someone has a problem with me or not. I'm on thin ice already as for some reason people think I'm some sort of immense trouble-maker already and I've been banned first-offense, no warning before... Though I've never seen any evidence of any of this absurd stuff people claim I do. Again, I always try my best to explain myself and the situation. I'm not going to risk being permabanned by trying to intentionally piss off some random demoman on harvest.

I simply put a vote through for what the server wanted.

which makes what, three warnings? Five? Ten?

It would actually be 1 verbal warning for suspected voting function abuse.

The other time I ever had a problem was a first-offense issue where an admin saw me post a demo of me shouting my lungs out on microphone. Which I... don't really do like, ever.

You seem to be taking this a bit personally. I have nothing against you. Hell, despite your BRILLIANT PRO RECORD, I honestly don't know who you are and I could care less.

Again, you seem to be self-entitled and think everyone who has an issue with you should be shot down and buried alive, because you're SUCH A MASSIVE PRO MAN. Scrubs like me just don't have any respect these days I guess... Sorry man.

For the record, I hit "No" when the voting box came up. So, technically, I wasn't even the cause of removing you. Like I said, the server did.

[Se7en 10,762]

which makes what, three warnings? Five? Ten? He's already promised not to voteban me anymore, and I believe him. Standard bully M.O. is to stay away from those who fight back.

Maybe the next good player he attacks will not go to the trouble I've gone to, and simply move on to another server where donators don't get to choose their opponents. Guys like this are cancer.

Maybe so, but players good or bad come and go anyway, chumpy. And judging by your attitude I doubt many people would miss you. Have a nice day.