Bullsseye 13 #1 Posted December 31, 2013 Hi. I've been playing on Lotus servers for quite the amount of time. I've bothered to join the group but it was spamming pointless events every time I logged onto Steam which later caused some conflicts so I eventually left; but still remained on the server. I primarily play on Lotus bot servers to cool off and play around for the most part, and mostly to test new mods and textures that I add to the game and see how well my PC can handle them. Recently (50 mins ago) 2 Spanish people were on the server with me. I didn't really mind them. Note: My favorite class is unarguably the Sniper. He's funny to listen to when you dominate someone, and it just feels good to headshot players. Not sure why but it comes to me naturally as a skill I guess. Keep in mind this took place on a Hightower Bot server, a very open spaced easy tracking map. Meaning that enemies are mostly spread into areas where they are completely vulnerable to headshots or a powered body shot. Being that the bots on this hightower map are very passive, it makes for a good cool down/testing server. The bots have a tendancy to stop at the ramps in each of the spawning areas, so the cart is permanently stuck there until a human player pushes it him or herself up the ramp. I normally get headshots through this area, as they tend to stand still for a second, move and rotate, then stand still and repeat the process. It's very easy to score headshots. I left to turn my configuration down a notch, my computer is a bit wonky when I set it to the dxlevel95. I rejoined, and the guy named Corvus and his friend ac started slandering me with accusations of aimbotting. Calling me a noob, telling me to go to the other team, leave the server and aimbot somewhere else. I eventually couldn't take it and lashed out on them calling them completely oblivious idiots. But I guess they didn't get it because they were Spanish. Eventually they began to recieve the idea that you can do !voteban on the server and proceeded to do so. I had one player on my team named Dr. Know (He changed his name to K. halfway into the game) and it was me and him VS. the Corvus and ac. I was banned for 30 minutes, which was completely unfair because I literally did nothing wrong other than call them a name that they deserved. I waited, tried to join chat in the Lotus group but to no light did that shed. I saw 'votebans are not permanent' in the discussions, so that made me feel better. I went on a trade server to kill time, and logged back onto the same hightower server, where there was now FOUR of them waiting to purposely kick me off the server AGAIN. I just instantly got votebanned for ANOTHER 30 minutes. Incredulous. As much as I praise Lotus for creating a strong community and a strong chain of servers, I find it's dumb to implement a system that has this kind of abusive fault instilled within. I get that every system has a fault; nothing is impervious to fault. But on a small server such as? I think it should be removed. Any idea on how I can maybe stop these people from abusing this feature? I have console chat already copied and I know their names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Computer 588 #2 Posted December 31, 2013 By all means, post the console chat, any demos, and their Steam IDs if you have them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullsseye 13 #3 Posted December 31, 2013 Console information has been added, on the other hand. How do I find their steam IDs without being in a server and typing "status" in console? I can link you to their account pages if that'll help. Also, when I got votebanned by the four other people I couldn't manage to see their names quick enough, and conveniently enough, my console was spamming errors. So I cannot help you on that part. •Corvo• - Emanuel, Argentina. Has a photo of a man with a mask and gun, looks like Call of Duty GHOSTS to me. Friends with ac-ultimatefan ac-ultimatefan - no name, no information. Has a photo of a guy with a flag behind him, is friends with 2 people, 1 being •Corvo•. The two people that started the whole fiasco. I can't seem to find a way to link directly to their profiles on Steam, but if you search their names in the "Add Friend" area, you'll find them. They're brand new to TF2 practically. Lotus Unban.txt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost_Jor 583 #4 Posted December 31, 2013 With !votebans it works on percentages. Playing on a server with few people means it will take less for the vote to pass through, whereas a fully populated server will require more people to agree on the ban. It's obviously not the best when there are a few people on the server, but it makes sure that a proportional amount of people actually want the ban, and stops a couple of people kicking an entire server. Also: !calladmin in chat will summon an admin if something like this abuse happens in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Computer 588 #5 Posted December 31, 2013 The account pages will do. Also: go to your steam profile page and add "friends/coplay/" to the url. You can see who you were "playing with" on that server the second time you joined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullsseye 13 #6 Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Sucessfully snagged ac-ultimatefan's STEAM ID. Unfortunately his buddy Corvo wasn't around, but you can still find him on the Steam Community under the same name. Cheers. # userid name uniqueid connected ping loss state# 67 "Kirito" STEAM_0:1:57671176 1:19:55 131 0 active# 61 "thegoldcat69" STEAM_0:0:63022931 1:33:11 56 0 active# 94 "Rydawg " BOT active# 99 "The Lorax " BOT active# 90 "Sucky Life" BOT active# 102 "MechaCHARIZARD" BOT active# 72 "Epenzopo25" STEAM_0:1:68831681 1:11:32 236 0 active# 96 "Gawsh" STEAM_0:0:73855461 17:35 47 0 active# 80 "L | Krash v2" BOT active# 84 "phantom " BOT active# 101 "Bullseye" STEAM_0:1:60745764 01:35 66 0 active# 86 "ac-ultimatefan" STEAM_0:1:78721106 56:08 282 0 activeJoin us in our quest for World Domination! Apply at LotusClan.com today!thegoldcat69 killed Kirito with tomislav.Bullseye : Where'd your buddy •Corvo• go?Epenzopo25 killed Rydawg with robot_arm_combo_kill. (crit)"ac-ultimatefan" voted to ban "Bullseye", required votes to initiate a voteban 2, current votes 1.Bullseye : Nice try.ac-ultimatefan : hace el voteban al bullseye enzo EDIT: You're faster than me to snag the IDs from them myself. Jesus man. Anyways, It listed these two people as the others that I joined with: Minecraft 1234, and Qwontome_Matrix. However.... It listed them as people I've played with @6:42 PM. And the most recent people I've played with were both ac-ultimatefan and Corvus @7:36 PM. Edited December 31, 2013 by Bullsseye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Computer 588 #7 Posted December 31, 2013 Added for reference: •Corvo• - STEAM_0:0:79220975 ac-ultimatefan - STEAM_0:1:78721106 Edited Console Log: ïCorvoï : erhïCorvoï : BullseyeïCorvoï : pussy*DEAD* Bullseye : How.ïCorvoï : go to other equipBullseye : Equip.Bullseye : Oblivious idiot eh?ïCorvoï : go yo other teamac-ultimatefan : calm your tits bullseye, hes spanishïCorvoï : go toïCorvoï : come on noobïCorvoï : you are aimbot newbieBullseye : You're so sad.ïCorvoï : XD jajajajaïCorvoï : your mama its like ! ïCorvoï : bullseyeïCorvoï : go to use aimbot dont hereïCorvoï : XDïCorvoï : noobïCorvoï : dont use aimbot and hit your fucking headhBullseye : Yer funny.Bullseye killed ïCorvoï with tf_projectile_rocket.ïCorvoï : !voteban BullseyeLotus: ïCorvoï initiated a voteban against Bullseye.Bullseye voted against banning Bullseye.K. voted against banning Bullseye.ac-ultimatefan voted for banning Bullseye.ïCorvoï voted for banning Bullseye.Lotus: Vote failed. 60% vote required. (Received 50% of 4 votes).*DEAD* Bullseye : Ouch.Bullseye : So sad too bad. Guess you'll just have to live with someone being better than you.ïCorvoï : K. its noob XDïCorvoï : !voteban Bullseye"ïCorvoï" voted to ban "Bullseye", required votes to initiate a voteban 2, current votes 1.Lotus: ac-ultimatefan initiated a voteban against Bullseye.ac-ultimatefan voted for banning Bullseye.Bullseye voted against banning Bullseye.ïCorvoï voted for banning Bullseye.thegoldcat69 voted for banning Bullseye.Lotus: Vote successful. (Received 75% of 4 votes).Lotus: Banned player "Bullseye" for 30 minutes.Disconnect: Added to banned list.Disconnect: Added to banned list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullsseye 13 #8 Posted December 31, 2013 Sorry if it was sloppy console output, I have no idea how to edit it. I just barely even know how to edit it. If you want you can add me on Steam to chat about this further. Up to you. Ghost_Jor, thanks. I completely forgot that Lotus had that feature enabled. And yes I totally forgot it was based on percentages. My logic is flawed as I haven't slept for nearly a day now, but thanks anyways. Now if you'll excuse me, I got some new weapons to break in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby 9,039 #9 Posted December 31, 2013 ACG, please do the honors of swinging the banhammer, and don't make it easy on them. Thank you for reporting this to us - we take reports of voteban abuse very seriously. And we're sorry this happened to you, but sometimes a bunch of assholes just have to ruin things for everyone. That is why we are here though. Also, moved to ban requests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullsseye 13 #10 Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Thanks so much! I can't believe that someone staff of a group has personally responded to a post...first time this has ever happened to me when I've joined any community. Love you guys, I'm back in Lotus. Time to do some winning. Well that and I did !calladmin because they thought changing their names would allow them to be impervious to punishment, and once I saw through and called em out, they decided to try to do !voteban. I frowned, and did !calladmin but no one came. Who cares right now, they'll need a lot more consent trying to voteban me anyways. Thanks so much for the support. Here is the latest console chat I got from them both before the server was flooded to max 24 players. I think...it's 24. This was the LotusClan.com | 24/7 Hightower East Coast. (TEAM) Bullseye : !admin (NOTE: I thought that was the command Ghost_Jor told me earlier. I'm guessing that was the command to try and open an admin menu or something. I tried doing !call admin, but my dumb brain didn't tell me to remove the space and try that.)[sM] You do not have access to this command. <- I'm guessing I was right.L | KillerKeg v2 killed CARMEN SANDIEGO with tf_projectile_pipe."ⓛⓞⓥâ“â€" voted to ban "Bullseye", required votes to initiate a voteban 2, current votes 1. <- Ah here we go.phantom killed کÄγℓع YOLOSWAG with obj_sentrygun3.devilqwerty.mw3 killed L | KillerKeg v2 with flamethrower.Bullseye : Yea you're still Corvo.Bullseye : I'm calling admins on you. <- CALLED HIM OUT!ⓛⓞⓥⓆ: ok noob <- Denial(TEAM) کÄγℓع YOLOSWAG : well you DID insult me, so there is a reason to do it <- Called him an idiot again. Cries over it.ⓛⓞⓥⓆ: enveousXan v2 killed phantom with obj_sentrygun3.Xan v2 killed InsideOutPockets with obj_sentrygun3.کÄγℓع YOLOSWAG killed L | Krash v2 with rocketlauncher_directhit.کÄγℓع YOLOSWAG killed L | Krash v2 with rocketlauncher_directhit.phantom killed کÄγℓع YOLOSWAG with obj_sentrygun3.ⓛⓞⓥⓆ: you use aimbot noob <- Still complaining about me being better than him.ⓛⓞⓥⓆ: learn how to aim <- NoCARMEN SANDIEGO killed Xan v2 with revolver.Delightful Princess Mason connectedⓛⓞⓥⓆkilled L | KillerKeg v2 with world.کÄγℓع YOLOSWAG defended Blue's HighTower for team #2کÄγℓع YOLOSWAG killed devilqwerty.mw3 with rocketlauncher_directhit. (NOTE: this is ac-ultimatefan)ERAK43 connectedDelightful Princess Mason killed کÄγℓع YOLOSWAG with market_gardener.devilqwerty.mw3 suicided.Lotus: Alltalk enabled until next round starts.ⓛⓞⓥⓆ: wuaaa XDMDLCache: Failed load of .VVD data for bots/boss_bot/anim_tank.mdlDelightful Princess Mason killed CameronSquirrel with shotgun_soldier. (crit)ⓛⓞⓥⓆ: cooooolate un dedo gordo trolo XD <- I can sorta translate, I think he called me a dead fat troll.Delightful Princess Mason killed iws5800 with shotgun_soldier. (crit)Delightful Princess Mason killed Bullseye with shotgun_soldier. (crit)Lotus: New Round - Alltalk disabled.ERAK43 killed InsideOutPockets with sword. (crit)Delightful Princess Mason defended Red's HighTower for team #3Delightful Princess Mason killed ERAK43 with shotgun_soldier.devilqwerty.mw3 killed کÄγℓع YOLOSWAG with flamethrower.'sniper.cfg' not present; not executing.'sniper.cfg' not present; not executing.devilqwerty.mw3 killed Xan v2 with flamethrower.Bullseye : Hey guys.ⓛⓞⓥⓆ: shut up pussy <- Friend says I insult him, yet allows his friend to insult me. What is this world? (NOTE : This is Corvo) Edited December 31, 2013 by Bullsseye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Computer 588 #11 Posted December 31, 2013 BANNED STEAM_0:1:78721106, STEAM_0:0:79220975 for 10 days each. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites