fever 9,884 #26 Posted September 30, 2014 I can see the argument for "just use an uber", I think six months ago when I had this debate with others on this forum I said it. Having said that, there are usually several demos, then you need to prepare an uber every time you go to sewers, then that gets you in the sewers. By the time you're ready to push into courtyard the same demo can have traps at hatch or courtyard. The demo is doing his job of suppression/area denial, but in pubs it's easily abused (which isn't really the right word but you know what I mean) in this way and its kind of annoying/lame as it's just OP. Edit:added I think the problem is the constraints of the map. On other maps sticky traps aren't as much of a problem and are encouraged. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LjubicaZubica 5,610 #27 Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Exactly, it slows game down. After few tries going via sewers and getting killed by camper you stop going there, not worth it. Then only choice you have is bridge and if you end up in water you can´t push further, you have to go back to base. Then few players take a bite of camper and start raging trying to kill him, so few of them are in sewers, few in base and none is left to actually attack. And I hear people saying how 2fort isn´t serious map, how it´s for noobs only and blah... and then they get stomped so badly by those same noobs that love this map. Map is less important if you have great players. And by great players I don´t mean campers, sorry :s oh and edit to go back on main post. Jesusfreak is now heavy with shotgun lol Maybe this persuade him to be less campy demo ^^ Edited September 30, 2014 by LjubicaZubica 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Se7en 10,762 #28 Posted September 30, 2014 This problem is slightly inflated because of instant respawn. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SinisterPixel 143 #29 Posted September 30, 2014 Let's be honest. It doesn't help that even without the demo 2fucks is just a giant stalemate anyway. It's honestly one of the poorest attempts at a Facing Worlds-esque map I've ever seen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fever 9,884 #30 Posted September 30, 2014 I see UK 2 Fort fast spawn as 25% team deathmatch, 15% objective and 60% social club. Facing Worlds <3 loved that map...much nuke, so wow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LjubicaZubica 5,610 #31 Posted September 30, 2014 ahahhaha this meme xD As I said, we are all noobs on 2fort and you are welcome to come play against us. Match: 2fort noobs vs others ^^ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SinisterPixel 143 #32 Posted September 30, 2014 <3 loved that map...much nuke, so wow Fever officially requests this map be put into Lotus map rotation immediately. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D-Bee 3,448 #33 Posted October 1, 2014 The part about CTF maps that makes me not want to play them is that most people who play on them don't seem to understand the tactics that are necessary to win. There is a tendency for teams to not leave their base with the hopes that they will get kills this way - and they will, but that is not how you win. I have watched scores of players walk into sentries, Spies fail stab instead of trying to kill Medics or take out sentries, Scouts going for kills instead of the Intel, and many more idiotic things. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+JB. 4,800 #34 Posted October 1, 2014 Scouts going for kills instead of the Intel 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D-Bee 3,448 #35 Posted October 2, 2014 This is acceptable to me if you jump onto the balcony and club snipers to death. Bonus points for running across the top of the bridge and dodging bullets first. This is one of my favorite things to do on 2Fort actually...besides cap against a turtle-ing team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+JB. 4,800 #36 Posted October 2, 2014 Dunno what I do on 2fort tbh. Run around without a plan and shot everyone I see I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites