LuckyLidirt 0 #1 Posted September 3, 2008 # 433 "Pack O' Niggz Snack Variety Pac" STEAM_0:0:16499376 41:34 155 0 active Above player had a different name at the beginning, I asked him twice to please stop blatently using "nigger" in his chat messages. So he begun to change his name repeatedly to name like the above and taunting me with asking me how much my pussy hurt. This didn't bug me as much as a member of Lotus that will be anonymous for calling me a christian and whatnot. Oh and apparently the above steam id said he was "tight" with you Mana. I'm not Christian. I'm caucasian. I find this word very offensive and I think anyone with an education(allbeit a small about) from Mississippi would agree. I think this sums it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 3,867 #2 Posted September 3, 2008 If someone uses that word a few times... It won't be a ban. We have no word filter, we allow swears so we can't just randomly ban people for this. However if someone keeps on doing it after others ask him/her to stop just to spite them... Then we have a problem. Get a demo next time: http://forums.gamingterritory.com/index.php?showtopic=3976 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JYD PSYCHO STEVE 0 #3 Posted September 3, 2008 There is a big difference between swearing and racial comments. I am guessing this is the same guy I asked to stop. Sorry to see you allow racial comments on your servers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silvio 0 #4 Posted September 3, 2008 People get offended by everything these days.Dont see how people let words bother them so much,when I see someone spamming something racist or whatever I think they look like a childish moron for doing it and how can you not laugh at that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jengo 0 #5 Posted September 3, 2008 People get offended by everything these days.Dont see how people let words bother them so much,when I see someone spamming something racist or whatever I think they look like a childish moron for doing it and how can you not laugh at that? This has been going on for years. It is nothing new. It isn't the words themselves that are offensive. It is what they represent. And afaik, racism is still illegal. But if you just want to laugh at it, or encourage it, be my guest. Just don't expect much understanding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silvio 0 #6 Posted September 3, 2008 This has been going on for years. It is nothing new. It isn't the words themselves that are offensive. It is what they represent. And afaik, racism is still illegal. But if you just want to laugh at it, or encourage it, be my guest. Just don't expect much understanding. racism is illegal?Wasnt encouraging it and im not laughing at it im laughing at the people saying it because they look stupid and ignorant.Learn2read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jengo 0 #7 Posted September 3, 2008 racism is illegal?Wasnt encouraging it and im not laughing at it im laughing at the people saying it because they look stupid and ignorant.Learn2read. I did read. And you're blowing it off like it doesn't mean anything. Its the same thing. You even said "how can you not laugh at that?" Don't give me your bullshit about learn2read. Obviously you have some growing up to do since you cannot comprehend how offensive racism is or how important it is to discourage it. Yet, you choose to let it go and just "laugh at them". How are they funny? Because they are racist? That makes them funny? You think the Jews thought the Nazis were funny? You think everybody just sat back and laughed at them because they were stupid? Or are you the one that needs to learn2read?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=^*Draco*^=- 0 #8 Posted September 3, 2008 I did read. And you're blowing it off like it doesn't mean anything. Its the same thing. You even said "how can you not laugh at that?" Don't give me your bullshit about learn2read. Obviously you have some growing up to do since you cannot comprehend how offensive racism is or how important it is to discourage it. Yet, you choose to let it go and just "laugh at them". How are they funny? Because they are racist? That makes them funny? You think the Jews thought the Nazis were funny? You think everybody just sat back and laughed at them because they were stupid? Or are you the one that needs to learn2read?? For all you know, the guy doing it could in fact be black. If he was all "nigga this, nigga that" IRL, as a black man, would you say anything? Probably not, because you're probably a pussy IRL. Stop making mountains out of mole-hills. This isn't genocide. If you're really that offended you should just frag the player relentlessly until they quit for the day out of frustration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jengo 0 #9 Posted September 3, 2008 For all you know, the guy doing it could in fact be black. If he was all "nigga this, nigga that" IRL, as a black man, would you say anything? Probably not, because you're probably a pussy IRL.Stop making mountains out of mole-hills. This isn't genocide. If you're really that offended you should just frag the player relentlessly until they quit for the day out of frustration. Mountains out of mole hills. So now racism is a mole hill. Wow. Actually I think I should just stop playing on Lotus servers. Its fairly obvious none of you actually have a clue how to act. Since you are obviously condoning the use of such words and acts on your servers. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rydawg 14 #10 Posted September 3, 2008 This thread fails to deliver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=^*Draco*^=- 0 #11 Posted September 3, 2008 Mountains out of mole hills. So now racism is a mole hill. Wow. Actually I think I should just stop playing on Lotus servers. Its fairly obvious none of you actually have a clue how to act. Since you are obviously condoning the use of such words and acts on your servers.If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Okay you bleeding heart you, find a different set of servers that offers the same thing as the Lotus servers do. I guarantee you, you'll find: Servers filled with Aimbots, Wallhacks, Haxors in general, and people that offend you because admins still don't give a shit. People like you need to relax and smell the roses. Regardless, with as many active players that exist in these servers, I doubt you'll be missed all that much. As for how to react, I've always found the best way to diminish the effect of people that annoy you is to just ignore them. They do it for exactly this reaction that you've chosen to spew. If he was reading this, who knows maybe he is, he'd be laughing his ass off at you right now for taking him seriously. As for my own personal opinion, I'm a pretty liberal person, you do the math. I'm generally way too busy actually y'know, playing the game, to give a damn about what someone uses as their in-game handle. And your last statement makes me think you're like President Bush. "If you're not with us, you're against us." So mature. Life is not painted in black and white, but in shades of gray. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavement 0 #12 Posted September 3, 2008 Give 'er, Jengo. On the Internet, you need to learn to pick your fights. If you want to track down every idiot and punish them, you're just going to tire yourself out. You will literally 'splode upon visiting *chan. Racist slurs are not illegal, btw... I have no idea why you said that. Either way, if a black person was playing on our TF2 server and someone came online with the word "nigga" in his name, I assure you he will not lose as much sleep as you seem to be losing over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oww My Nose 19 #13 Posted September 3, 2008 And your last statement makes me think you're like President Bush. "If you're not with us, you're against us." So mature. Life is not painted in black and white, but in shades of gray. The terrorists are going to be using racial slurs on our TF2 homeland servers! We must bannorate them all in order to stop their terrorizing of our peoples! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavement 0 #14 Posted September 3, 2008 stay the course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Pain 0 #15 Posted September 3, 2008 In canada racial slurs r illegal. Canada FTW A good question is why would anyone use a racial slur, u can't see anyone who's playing, so WTF?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oww My Nose 19 #16 Posted September 3, 2008 dude srsly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oww My Nose 19 #18 Posted September 3, 2008 no wai! guess i've broken the law practically all through jr. high. fkn boggins tho... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavement 0 #19 Posted September 3, 2008 I'm breaking the law right now! Why doesn't Mexico have an Olympic team? because any Mexican that can run, jump or swim is in the USA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oww My Nose 19 #20 Posted September 3, 2008 I laughed a little. not gona lie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavement 0 #21 Posted September 3, 2008 Because EVERYONE is racist to some degree! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 3,867 #22 Posted September 3, 2008 There is a big difference between swearing and racial comments. I am guessing this is the same guy I asked to stop. Sorry to see you allow racial comments on your servers. Here's the thing... If it's used in the name, go to their profile and report it to Valve. They will deal with it. But otherwise... it's just words. What would happen if everyone just ignored it? Would people keep on using? I really doubt it. But as long people make a fuss out of it then some will be using. As I said. If it's something nonstop and others ask him to stop... Get me proof (demo) and he will be banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy_Reader 0 #23 Posted September 22, 2008 This has been going on for years. It is nothing new. It isn't the words themselves that are offensive. It is what they represent. And afaik, racism is still illegal. But if you just want to laugh at it, or encourage it, be my guest. Just don't expect much understanding. racism isn't illegal it's protected by freedom of speech and the freedom of ones own opinion hate crimes on the other hand are illegal and calling someone a certain word isn't illegal it could be consider harassment if it's directed at you. Multiple times. The one who kept spamming the word was doing it to see the reaction he got and you gave him the reaction he wanted so he kept doing it. I rarely encounter people like that on this server because 90% of the time we just continue with our business and ignore him. He usually leaves or just shuts up either way. Turn off your speakers or cover your screen with post-it sticky notes if you don't like seeing that word because god forbid you type in the word racism on Google. Because EVERYONE is racist to some degree! Also I agree with this completely. People must earn racism from me however. Aka be a sterotype. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corazu 0 #24 Posted September 22, 2008 These servers aren't only dictated by the laws of the nation. It also has its own set of rules. Granted, it may be a public server, but it is still a private establishment. We don't give a shit about freedom of speech or opinion,if you're being offensive or harassing people - you're not going to be welcome. People need to get over their ignorance and sense of entitlement, some people seem to think the world revolves around them and that everyone is just there for their amusement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silvio 0 #25 Posted September 22, 2008 These servers aren't only dictated by the laws of the nation. It also has its own set of rules. Granted, it may be a public server, but it is still a private establishment. We don't give a shit about freedom of speech or opinion,if you're being offensive or harassing people - you're not going to be welcome.People need to get over their ignorance and sense of entitlement, some people seem to think the world revolves around them and that everyone is just there for their amusement. You talk like this a some kind of serious environment like a work place etc , its a game let people blab out whatever they want and be dumb.If people get all up in arms and start lecturing like this over someone being dumb and ignorant in a video game then they must have been expecting second life when they picked up a copy of tf2.Someone bothers you to a point that you are taking offense to stereotypes and slurs directed at another race then thats just instigating and being a drama queen.If you want to tattle because some kid said a bad word or said some racist word he heard on tv or something then post here and mana will ban or whatever but all this racism discussion is soooooo getting annoying, feel like this is politically incorrect with bill maher only without an ounce of comedy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites