IndominusRex 13 #26 Posted February 19, 2007 I guess we can't tell it. Its up to the person. If you want it. Go for it. For me, I trust my religion. Well, I am budhism Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndominusRex 13 #27 Posted March 28, 2007 Everybody who wants to understand existence of GOD: Conversation with sense.. . An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new students to stand and..... Prof: So you believe in God? Student: Absolutely, sir. Prof: Is God good? Student: Sure. Prof: Is God all-powerful? Student: Yes. Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm? (Student is silent.) Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good? Student: Yes. Prof: Is Satan good? Student: No. Prof: Where does Satan come from? Student: From...God... Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world? Student: Yes. Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct? Student: Yes. Prof: So who created evil? (Student does not answer.) Prof: Is there sickness? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they? Student: Yes, sir. Prof: So, who created them? (Student has no answer.) Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God? Student: No, sir. Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God? Student: No, sir. Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelled your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter? Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't. Prof: Yet you still believe in Him? Student: Yes. Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Student: Nothing. I only have my faith. Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has. Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat? Prof: Yes. Student: And is there such a thing as cold? Prof: Yes. Student: No sir. There isn't. (The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.) Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.) Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness? Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness? Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light.... But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you? Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man? Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how? Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey? Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.) Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on going, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.) Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain? (The class breaks out into laughter.) Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelled it?.....No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.) Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son. Student : That is it, sir.. The link between man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive. You know who this young man was? ------------------------------... ALBERT EINSTEIN ------------------------------... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasedo 1 #28 Posted March 28, 2007 there are so many religions nowdays is hard to pick or see a another religion bewteen us, 1 thing for sure there are only 2 religions that has no gods wich are buddhism and tao these are called philosophy religions wich mean created it by man, "sending by gods",the others religons such a christiantiny, hinduism, confuacims,islam,shintoism, guess that's all, anyways those above are under one or many gods as we speak, yes they had difference between each other meanings of celebrations or religions type but yet they belived in gods while the other 2 are knows are philosophy"by man",the one that beliveds in gods are know as "monotheistic", i didn't invent this but i had so many research about many religions for about a year or so, i like a lot to read about buddhism life,is so interesting, anyways gtg later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonsoul 3 #29 Posted March 28, 2007 nice find Ben anyway, if you are gonna take a class in philosophy or anything related, this is a great topic to discuss, but wouldn't it makes more sense if we just let things go and do what we suppose to do first and live our lives happily and help others WHO ARE REALLY IN NEED instead of discussing abstract topics on a game forum............ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinophile 41 #30 Posted March 29, 2007 Dragonsoul, I agree with you 100%. Sad thing is, there are people who hold on to "religion" instead of making the world better. Call me an asshole, but I'd want to knock some sense into them by crushing them with logic. It's just... Some people take their religion at face value and use it as an excuse for their shortcomings. That pisses me off... so badly! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
