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Name: ChildClownOutlet

SteamID: STEAM_0:1:32673572

Screenshot: http://i152.photobuc...botheshotme.jpg

Video:

The demo is rather long (and glitchy) so I supplied a video for ease sake. I forgot to enable sound recording, so please enjoy the wonderful masterpiece of audio I've included instead.

So essentially, I shot this guy while he was running back into spawn to heal. He stopped to look at me, and I shot him. He then immediate calls "AIMBOT!" and proceeds to votekick me for being AFK/Idle.

Considering he put a deceptive kick reason that wasn't true in either case, (I obviously wasn't AFK, and how can I aimbot if I'm AFK?) I'm going to go ahead and assume he actually did not suspect I was aimbotting, and was just misusing his Donator abilities because he was butthurt I shot him in the crotch.

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Perhaps a warning or very temporary ban would be useful. Irritating but genuinely seen so so much worse from other players.

Good job posting though :)

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LOL. I almost didn't make it through with that music track (and I'm a big electronic fan :) )

3 day ban for donor abuse. Future offenses would result in a longer ban duration.

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probalby the best banrequest I've ever seen ;-)

make it 3 weeks for the final "LOL".... dayum. he got lucky that sven ProLoser was first.

If that guy is on work, he won't notice the 3 days at all.

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I accept my 3 day ban like a man. I would like to point out the inaccuracies and add some details to IceSage's accusations.

>>>>So essentially, I shot this guy while he was running back into spawn to heal. He stopped to look at me, and I shot him. He then immediate calls "AIMBOT!" and proceeds to votekick me for being AFK/Idle.

This is very correct.

>>>>Considering he put a deceptive kick reason that wasn't true in either case, (I obviously wasn't AFK, and how can I aimbot if I'm AFK?) I'm going to go ahead and assume he actually did not suspect I was aimbotting, and was just misusing his Donator abilities because he was butthurt I shot him in the crotch.

This is why I accept my ban - "he put a deceptive kick reason that wasn't true". I should've chosen "Disruptive".

Now, I don't have a nice video to back up these claims, but I'll make my case here for what it is worth, check the chat logs I guess.

A minute or so before I called the votekick, IceSage claimed I was an Aimbot after a lucky rocket (from my spraying-like-crazy Beggar's Bazooka) and he tried to initiate a votekick/ban AGAINST ME. Now, because he is not a donor, he needs to initiate a vote to initiate the actual vote, which obviously failed.

Then, IceSage skillfully fragged me. In the heat of the moment, I thought it would be funny to initiate a votekick against IceSage for Aimbotting me (a playful retaliation of his attempt/outburst), forgetting that my initiating of the said vote is immediate. Lo and behold, both teams voted to kick him (against what I thought would happen, because it was for AFK/idle in response to his accusations).

When IceSage rejoined, I said "welcome back". I have fun playing on these servers and have made some good tf2 buddies (hence why I donated in the first place). This is my first 'run in' with the lotus law. I leave the matter in the hands of the lotus admin crew.

Thank you

ChildClownOutlet

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Well the times are not indicated anywhere here but I'm sure if you told me them I would have a look into the chat logs and see if your claim is true.

I'm sure we can keep this in proportion though, 3 days is not a huge time and hopefully it won't happen again :) And well done, you've admitted you did wrong which can be hard for somebody.

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A minute or so before I called the votekick, IceSage claimed I was an Aimbot after a lucky rocket (from my spraying-like-crazy Beggar's Bazooka) and he tried to initiate a votekick/ban AGAINST ME. Now, because he is not a donor, he needs to initiate a vote to initiate the actual vote, which obviously failed.

I actually thought for awhile that you were aimbotting, and typed "Aimbot?" as the reason. You then explained that it was a lucky shot that you randomly hit me while I was fully cloaked and invisible. Nobody else motioned for a votekick, so I simply left it alone. I genuinely thought something shady was going on and motioned a regular votekick.

Even if I had donator privledges, I could have also put up an immediate vote that put "ChildClownOutlet: Aimbotting?" as the reason. That wouldn't have been an abuse of the voting feature at all in that case either, and you're welcome to votekick me with your donator powers again if you actually do think I'm aimbotting.

You, however, did not do that. You were butthurt I shot you in the crotch then put an entirely false reason to motion for my kick. If you had put "Aimbot" as the reason this thread probably wouldn't have existed. Also the immediate "AIMBOT" "OH ICESAGE SHOT ME AIMBOT" carried a bit of a sarcastic/butthurt tone.

You're free to use your donator abilities however you see fit, just don't abuse it and all will be cool.

I wasn't going to mention this because it wasn't relevant at the time, but I wasn't the only victim of this. Earlier in the match you were "warning" other players not to play the game a certain way in a manner suggesting that you would kick them if they didn't follow how you play. In fact, that's why I had a demo recording going in the first place. I don't record every match I'm in.

(I also want to point out I have nothing against you, you seem like a mature player. I just simply observed some donator votes flying off the handle and fell victim to one of them, and from frequenting Lotus quite.... frequently, I know that donator abuse is a big no-no and posted it here to be handled, if at all.)

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I wasn't going to mention this because it wasn't relevant at the time, but I wasn't the only victim of this. Earlier in the match you were "warning" other players not to play the game a certain way in a manner suggesting that you would kick them if they didn't follow how you play. In fact, that's why I had a demo recording going in the first place. I don't record every match I'm in.

Just to be clear, the 'warning' that I communicate had ZERO connotations of kicking anybody. My 'warning' is usually along the lines of 'Hey ENGIE, don't build your tele entrance here because spies will get in behind us!' or 'Hey Scout, Don't take the ammo during setup!' ... I don't remember what exactly you are referring to, but whatever.... I hope you are having fun playing. I hope this was all worth it.

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