Dealing with Abuse

[[LOT]rundown 3]

had no clue that the leafs blessed by a brother could clear smoke, I know their ability can extend their line of sight for a short period of time but didn't know that

[{Dark}WarlockLord 0]

Yea i might try the thing with the leaf and see if it works and then I will tell if it works.

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

Yea i might try the thing with the leaf and see if it works and then I will tell if it works.

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im going to try it i did not now thats great but when they smoke my army i just move them and they continue attacking im going to try this new strategie.

[Jdeks 0]

Smoke players always attack en-masse. If you distract them with a hardy unit than can take a bit of fire and make your enemy concetrate the smoke on them, you can hit their flanks and rear. I generally throw about 10 samurai head-on at them with dragin skin, and let them get smoked. Then, hit with mouted samurai real fast on the flank, and stun spear on the rear. They cant bring enough smoke onto them fast enough and once they're in melee they toast.

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

Smoke players always attack en-masse. If you distract them with a hardy unit than can take a bit of fire and make your enemy concetrate the smoke on them, you can hit their flanks and rear. I generally throw about 10 samurai head-on at them with dragin skin, and let them get smoked. Then, hit with mouted samurai real fast on the flank, and stun spear on the rear. They cant bring enough smoke onto them fast enough and once they're in melee they toast.

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i dont get your strategie

[[LOT]rundown 3]

yea, that is a bit confusing.....and usually good players won't mass smoke anyway so, their army will be strong and diverse

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

True true, there are harldy units who deal damage to shaled zerk from lotus..

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well youre right there are hardly any units that do much damage to zerks. but if you know that your opponent is using only zerks, use only deseased ones with vomit vomit takes out a zerk faster than a warlock takes out a samurai in long range.

[Waha 0]

hi all first post but I have been playing for a long time,

my brother loves to do shaled zerks rushes on AIs that I have become too scared of taking him 1 on 1, last night we had a game of 2 vs 3 AI, he got a massive 300 kills with 50 deaths I had only 70 kills and deaths, I was serpent and all the AIs were lotus,

anyone know of a good strat against his rushes? cannoneers are marginal as he will always send his zerks to ranged units

[[LOT]rundown 3]

well it depends on what clan you are....

if your serpent try to make a couple mugs to get rid of his BG and then have a couple weakness bolts to weaken his defenses and then have mass snipes as the rest of your army which should kill him easily if you are microing right

If your lotus mass diseased ones with vomit as gum said before

If your dragon try to get the keep to make monks since a single monk can take out a berserker 1on1, have the rest of your army has healers, archers, kegs, a couple melee units and make towers if you can

If your wolf make sledgers and berserkers with shale(have a couple of the sledgers with stun) and druidesses

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

Nah, to counter zerks with serpent, I would mass Ronin with Full upgraded geishas and a necro. They will die.

[[LOT]rundown 3]

well there's more than one way to beat it

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

you dont need geisha or necro with the serpent. all you need is ronin with yin blade you can take out 30 zerks with 20 ronin w/yin blade, and you'll probably loose only like 3 or 4 ronins tops.

with dragon make a lot of kabuki w/firecrackers they do gold damage when they are blinded.

and with wolf, make only masters w/shale

with lotus i already told you.

[[LOT]diablo 1]

i was playing a 3 vs 3 ........ i was serpent..... run was dragon... and kid was dragon... vs darky... shady(ithink) and i bandit...... one was dragon and the other 2 were lotus....... how do u beat like...... i think was like 8 dcs? i tried my best to mugg but 2 were active at the same time..... and the map was wheeler so getting vetkin was kinda out of the option

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

trying to work together is always hard but i would have done this check this.

use like 4 or 5 mug but first smoke so they dont see you coming,

like seconds after mug, and i do mean seconds like 2 or 3 seconds tops,

one of the dragons run in with like 10 whirling, without dc you can take out every first tyer unit including all healers and staffs. while all this is taking place the serpent should keep smoking and scoping, and after whirlilng the third dragon should come in with dragon warriors and healers.

but this is just a technique i would only dream of using cause if you want to make it work you should practice it with your two partners, and besides lets face it most maps that we play on are really small so to get something like this done is prety hard.

specially against darky, honestly i dont know how in the hell he is able to make so much dc so damn fast.

i think its because he concentrates on dc alone depending on the othe two guys to back him up while he finishes.

i dont know but thats jus my opinion.

[[LOT]rundown 3]

yea, darky told me once he focuses on the one thing and goes straight for it

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

what ive noticed on D is that he plays with the arrow keys to move about faster it seems to work for him, i cant do that though im used to play with the mouse all the time.

[[LOT]diablo 1]

yea idk how but i got use to the arrows....... and darky wasnt lotus he was dragon.... he kept whirling my musk and swords....... so i couldnt do much...... eventhough we lost.... it was a badass game..... we lasted a long time against 2 lotus..... after my they killed my units we started to fall apart... no mug so yea....

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

what ive noticed on D is that he plays with the arrow keys to move about faster it seems to work for him, i cant do that though im used to play with the mouse all the time.

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i also play with keys arrow just get usef to it and its better im more fast. so yeah it works for me too.

[[LOT]rundown 3]

I have never tried the arrow keys, maybe I will try them out sometime and see how they work out

[Guest [LOT]Phate]

omfg!!! you guys didnt use arrow keys all this time!??!?!? XD

i only use arrow keys and mouse but i hardly use hot keys

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

the only hot keys i use are my car keys when i leave them on the stove

.................. not really i like to use the F buttons only for smoke. beside that i use only B and N everything else i do with the mouse.

hey how do i put a picture like you guys last time i did the picture went in as a thumbnail, btw thats a nice pic Phate, did you make it?

[[LOT]rundown 3]

I love the hotkeys and I use them all of the time, they make it much easier, I don't use the F keys for smoke though

I like F, B, O, N, and a couple others sometimes but not usually, those are the ones I use the most

[Guest [LOT]Phate]

gumbercules' date='Jan 26 2006, 04:28 AM']the only hot keys i use are my car keys when i leave them on the stove

.................. not really i like to use the F buttons only for smoke. beside that i use only B and N everything else i do with the mouse.

hey how do i put a picture like you guys last time i did the picture went in as a thumbnail, btw thats a nice pic Phate, did you make it?

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i was in yahoo lookin for samurai pics and i found this one i just added the Phate LOT CLan thin in Paint

if you need help with a siggy you should ask gizmo hes the best

[[LOT]diablo 1]

i also use N, O, B, i sometimes also use f1, f2 f3 f4... it makes turning one a certain type of bg easier.....

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

you mean smoke?