Team_fadel 0 #51 Posted March 8, 2009 dragon can beat serpent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samuronin 2 #52 Posted March 8, 2009 You can't beat a very good serpent player that easy, even the dragon clan can't!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar 5 #53 Posted March 8, 2009 You can't beat a very good serpent player that easy, even the dragon clan can't!!!!! Look the topic dude the question is how will the serpent win not how will the dragon. The Dragon in this case is just a turtle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar 5 #54 Posted March 11, 2009 Oh and the idea about a line of musketeers to prevent the sams from taking yang is not a good one IMO. As you should probably noticed that a player gets yin/yang points not only when he inflicts damage but also when he receives damage. So if you play with high pop if he sends about 15-20 sams no way he wont get the 3 yang.... besides he may use a dragon skin BG for the front few sam, so when they rush first your musketeers will strike them first cuz they are the first entered their range and yang blade for the rest of them so if you want to make a tactic with musketeers you also become a turtler but weaker Ok we all say what we dont have to do, so now let's try saying what we have to do. Here is my advice, first make a swift army, fast moving troops, raiders, swords ronins on horses etc and simply rush into his, base but not to the towers just to his rice if it is possible to enter without getting into the range of towers of course. The idea is to rush not to attack, simply run as forward as you can, hopefully you will avoid the spirit if you are not fighting or at least few of your units will be in casualties, besides a darc pact BG of geisha is perfect before the rush, if you make it into his base with all this army and few casualties you have pretty much won. Since 4 sams are gone with at least 3 peasants and 4 units on towers so -11 units on the enemy camp. and we all know that necro can exceed limit ;] so you have the chance. If you have 1 survived witch his towers are gone... That's the only thing I can offer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Light 2 #55 Posted March 14, 2009 i wud just say that in dragon vs serpent SERPENT can kill dragon shit easy if it rushes but will find it equally hard to kill in long game.... best thing to prevent from DF is to spread out ur units as much as u can..... and always use a geisha with dark pact on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar 5 #56 Posted January 12, 2010 Ok lets talk about this, it happened to me like more than 20 times. Im a serpent player and i have a lot of probs when my enemy picks dragon and build ups 3 watchtower with archers and settle back sending sams in order to get yang and aimin for the dragon spirit, in that situation im unable to atack cuz the opponent base is towered up with fully upgraded archers, so its so hard to kick their asses with canons or snipas cuz the archers rape them easily with such upgrades and geishas, also its so risky toatack the enemys base cuz he can release the spirit in any moment, so what i do is what EmpressTashiro teached me, i settle back too, fully towered with a line of snipas in the front of all my base with canoners back ready for smoke, the necro and some geishas and a field of mines, the strat is gay and kinda noobish but as soon as the sam is in snipas range he get killed, so the opp is unable to get yang, but it just works sometimes, most of times i have get owned by dragon spirit builders, with upgraded archers and stuff, so what i want to know if theres some way to beat these guys, but consideratin the enemy under these conditions: base fully towered, mass upgraded archers, healers, maybe arah and sendin sams aimin for yang to realease the spirit...which strat i can use to beat this guy on his own base or how i counter this strat if im serpent of course...ok plz give me some tips cuz im tired of gettin beated by this gay dragon strat. P.D: forget rush recomendations. P.D: sorry about my english its not good at all P.D Bye and peace! here is your solution.... play long enough to make poisonous weapons technique. Use army of bandits and witches few geishas with BG for heal and if you need something else... the idea is simple just rush in and kill everything.. Sounds funny but it works the dragon breath spell will leave the bandits on yellow 50% with the geisha attacking they can be recovered and then you can destroy any unit of the dragon clan... may use musketters with exp bg and riders for the buildings but it doesn't matter... Once you survive the dragon breath and kill the samurais he sends the rest is peace of cake... I tried to kill mass bandit army fully upgraded with dragon breath and assault them with samurais but it was a sloughter... there are a lot of ways for the dragon to counter the bandit army but the way the turtle player plays he loses Try it Oh and crossbows are also a part of your bread and butter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron_nald 0 #57 Posted August 20, 2012 hmmm sounds good but as i said b4, upgraded archers means total ownage for canons and for raiders, if u wanna burn, then u gotta send like 6 or 7 full upgraded raiders, or archers and arah will rape them. Now ronin is pointless cuz asap ur enemy engages with u in battle he will release the dragon fire, and ronin die fast vs the magic damage, the olny ones who has a chance for surviving the dragon fire are canoners, then i think massing smoke canoners necro and heros such shinja and a lot of healers are they key for this, now that u mentionated wearing some mines is a good idead cuz some players like to mass archer with sams, and sams take very low damage from blunt, so mines would be total ownage for them I think you should split your army!!! You can split them but they can be still powerful as they were together...just train 8 ronins.. the 4 ronin blood bonded to nec. or budo.. then the other 4 to shinja..then guard the 2 bondies with atleast 5 upgraded fan geishas.. also support your ronins with mounted to horses fan geisha.. then add atleast 3 raiders.. and 5 cannonners to each group.. then split your ronins to to equal group.. one group will attack the main defense of the enemy and the other will attack at the other end .. and aim to destroy the dragon monument.. I think with two or more groups to attack.. your enemy can't decide to which group he will use his dragon breath 1st.. .. even he uses the dragon breath to eigher group.. your bloodbonded ronin can surely survive the damage.. and these ronins are enough to crush enemy base.. since your enemy also looses units.. the 4 samurai.... Then if he only has 1 dragon spirit.. then the other group has enough crew to destroy enemy's base. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
