Guest Aramid #76 Posted August 13, 2006 Kazan, Budo are slow units and vulnerable against cutting damages.... Maybe sometimes fat units can be useless and useful depending on the situation.... Gaihla is small and pretty but she is weak th only thing that stood up is her bunch of innates and her bg that none of the wolf clan can surpass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eggna 2 #77 Posted August 19, 2006 I voted Budo but of course Gaihla would die in a 1 v.s 1 fight. But she is much stronger with an army, her healing ability is just way better then what Budo could do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arek[DR] 1 #78 Posted August 19, 2006 I voted Budo... Me too, hi is slow,fat and weak Gaihla, Soban and the rest are good even. I thought on Longtoot, but Budo is weaker probably Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLACKphantom 0 #79 Posted August 19, 2006 I vote for Kazan,if it's raining he's USELESS without fire arrow archers helping him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinophile 41 #80 Posted August 20, 2006 Thats why you never light fires in the rain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]rundown 3 #81 Posted August 20, 2006 Yea, but what happens if it isn't raining. Kazan can take towers out in two shots. Even when it's raining his fire can still be very effective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5 #82 Posted August 20, 2006 kazaan only useful for fire starting as a decoy for ur opponents to jumble there gameplay and tactics for u to come in and destroy... good players mostly lose to lack of concentration and mix upz its good 2 fake an opponent and make them keep guessing in what you are planning to do... a smart playa is a good playa... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Aramid #83 Posted August 27, 2006 Who will win Kazan or vetkin? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5 #84 Posted August 28, 2006 VETKIN fo sure dumb question aramid... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{HeRo}GeneralDS 4 #85 Posted August 28, 2006 VETKIN fo sure dumb question aramid... 17449[/snapback] hmm i voted for budo due to his bg and attack and defence power...and from the looks of it he is in the lead, vetkin is like near last in this vote. vetkin has that ability to run without losing stamina, and can run into a base and get out without suffering much damage budo is way too slow and his bg hurts peasants too much for my liking, id use issyl's bg for the same purpose on occasion. gaihla is useful to an extent because if you have a large army, then she can only heal so many unless they are very closely packed together to the point that some units overlap others on the screen. medium and small armies are more likely to be completely healed by her. garrin is usful if u need horses but dont want to waste resources for stables...altho using garrin's bg for this would take a long time, so maybe 1 or 2 horses for him and maybe a healer before an enemy hits the base. garrin does hit harder from horses and higher ground tho..longtooth is semi-usful, he can hit from far away like arah, and i do have uses for his bg, like if buildings are really close together and lined up, then he can hit all of them with the bg...so for those of you who think its useless, try it out in different ways, it might have a use for ya...if you want some pretty bad heroes, then look at shinja, he has a dismal attack power in my opinion and is only useful for poisoning the enemy, in fact i believe that shinja is a little weaker than otomo. and tao is really useful for the extra monks and his bg will reflect some damage caused to him on melee units that are attacking him, also good for peasant removal. otomo's bg is helpful, especially if used in combination with shinja's bg, altho that will take some coordination between you and ur ally. stronger attacks from you + weaker attacks from enemies= good chance of you winning the fight. P.S. vetkin can drain enemy stamina completely with his bg, good for those bg that require stamina, either constant use of it or require a certain amount to use, those enemies will have a hard time fighting back. also useful if enemies are trying to burn down buildings with bg, as certain units bg that are fire based do require stamina to activate but doesnt drain it unless u r moving the unit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5 #86 Posted August 28, 2006 hey knight good knowledge of br u got there... shinja is a good hero has good health and attack and his BG ish cool 2... otomo is a group unit alone he just cant do anything... about vetkin vetkin 2 me is tha most useful hero in tha serpent clan and him against kazaan, kazaan has got no chance.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedy 11 #87 Posted August 31, 2006 I'm pretty sure kazan beats Vetkin 1v1, anyone want to test it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5 #88 Posted August 31, 2006 good luck wit it let me kno how u do aiight... vetkin is victorious.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tenji 0 #89 Posted August 31, 2006 I think hmmm budo hes slow,ugly,weak and kill peasent budo is not good ;/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5 #90 Posted September 1, 2006 lolz good lookin out bro... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osmium 0 #91 Posted September 2, 2006 Why put Longtooth out there?he is strong enough to beat Garrin without losing a quarter of it's health,and as for the units it can kill Spearmans,Kabukis,Musks,Staff Adepts,Diseased Ones easy,so don't include him on the weak heroes category Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5 #92 Posted September 2, 2006 same with vetkin damm his poor health is made up for with his speed and special abilities and cool BG... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osmium 0 #93 Posted September 3, 2006 yea.......Vetkin is used mainly for it's BG and speed......he and Longtooth shouldn't be on this list Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{HeRo}GeneralDS 4 #94 Posted September 3, 2006 i think teppo should have been put on the list...he does have a useful battlegear, but he is weak as heck in the health department, about as much health as a spearman with dragon's heart, and his attack is weaker than a powder keg's attack, and slightly stronger than a chemist...altho i think if you put teppo in a tower, then he can do a little more damage..in fact, if i remember correctly, his attack is about as effective as a 3/4 powered chemist attack, and thats with all five rockets total...and i agree with the opinion that vetkin and longtooth should not be on the list Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osmium 0 #95 Posted September 3, 2006 You voted for Garrin,but not for Soban.........is Soban better than Garrin? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5 #96 Posted September 4, 2006 actually teppo is good same with vetkin his poor qualities are made up for with his other special abilities... his attack is also cool and strong against buildings at least he is not a fat thing like kazaan....lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osmium 0 #97 Posted September 4, 2006 But Teppo goes down realy fast,Vetkin still has a chance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5 #98 Posted September 4, 2006 well his health is made up for his attack and BG... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osmium 0 #99 Posted September 4, 2006 What bg does he have?i don't realy know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5 #100 Posted September 4, 2006 something gotta do with magic from getting poisoned and paralyzed and shit... in other words proitects him from magic and effects... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites