{{clan}}UnablE 2 #126 Posted May 26, 2007 shinja kills to slow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedy 11 #127 Posted May 26, 2007 Grayback can never beat Zymeth in a 1vs1 if he uses his lightning, the only way Grayback would have a chance is if Zymeth didn't use his battle gear. Aramid there is no % chance of winning in a 1vs1. The outcome will always be the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]diablo 1 #128 Posted May 26, 2007 well then i guess when i tried it i did something wrong because im pretty sure utara stands a chance against gray and zymeth.... but what do i know ive only played this game for a long time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zelphir 0 #129 Posted May 27, 2007 Hey you guys! Did you read my post? We tested it as I said (Without BG's) - But somebody writes "Hmmm.... I believe Grayback can kill Zymeth in a one on one fight with him." that's nonsense. (No other units fighted with the tested heroes) Grayback was killed by Zymeth because he takes a high damage from magic-attacks (with lightnings you can forget Grayback ) And Utara really has exactly 0% chance to kill Zymeth! (already the imagination ) (btw: We tested Otomo vs Utara and Utara lost.... but that was because if Otomo is stuned by Utara his next attack will be the attack with most damage which he can do) Hey and we tested units from Dragonclan against some of Serpentclan too! Spearman > Swordsman (even with all developments - we tested both: with and without) I allways thought that Swordsman would win that - but he stays the cooler guy :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]diablo 1 #130 Posted May 28, 2007 has anyone tried one vs one a brawler vs blades staff swords or spear? cause they do last a long time im pretty sure they can win 1vs1 with any of them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{MBR}Trix 0 #131 Posted May 29, 2007 Budo is the worst hero because he weakens peasants just to work fast then you send a geisha there. Budo is the worst. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dark_vampire0013 0 #132 Posted May 29, 2007 Excatly.............. Budo is useless, especially for is ability against peasants and in battle is a easy hero to kill. and if you are using his ability then you'd probably need 2 gieshas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samuraispirit 0 #133 Posted June 28, 2007 I say Ghaila. She dies too fast and the wolf units don´t need her healing skill because every wolf unit can heal on itself. Budo is not bad. When you don´t want that your peasants die but you want that they work faster just send you fan geishas to heal your peasants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack 0 #134 Posted July 22, 2008 well... budo isnt that completely useless... i sometimes use him to guard places where the necro's spirits will try and attack (in Serp vs Serp) and he owns them... he has a good amount of attack power .. in my opinion. But my vote was for Soban. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reNekRoManT 3 #135 Posted July 22, 2008 List of best useful heroes 1 Isyyl 2 Vetkin 3 Necromancer 4 Arah 5 Utara 6 Koril 7 Gaihla 8 Longtooth 9 Zymeth 10 Grayback Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Light 2 #136 Posted August 6, 2008 just look AT GARRIN DEFENCE is poorer than SAMURAi his bg is good indeed(not useful if there are no horses) but he needs constant protection from attacks which is tough. budo even has a good armor but garrin's defence is poor so i would say he is the worst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon_slayer 1 #137 Posted August 9, 2008 well budo for me il say hes usless but not 100% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockstar 0 #138 Posted August 12, 2008 Budo, slow, weak, only good for making peasants work harder, then they die. thats because ur suppose 2 put 1 or 2 healers by the workers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mekani 0 #139 Posted August 14, 2008 Budo is easily the worst hero. His battlegear's not useless, but it's not that great,at all. And if he gets jumped by a pair of diggers with their Chant of Tremors researched, he's screwed. He'll die in a few seconds. He makes an ok peasant defender, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanenix 0 #140 Posted August 15, 2008 Lol you guys does not know how to use Budo. That is lame. Budo is one of the best defensive Zen masters with Geishas (4 Geisha as the initial and change to 2 if you have a good economy) using Darkpacks in managing the production of rice and decrease the number of peasants gathering rice. If less peasants are gathering rice the faster it creates peasants. I also use Budo to defend my peasant especially when Koril ambush my rice field. If you play more Pvp Koril is specialize in ambushing peasant in the rice field to decrease the rice production and decrease the economy of the opponent. Also, Koril can kill 1-3 peasant per ambush and Budo is one of the best anti ambush defense. The useless hero is Kazan because he is weak against units and Fire Arrows from Archers is way better than Kazan. I team up Kazan on my Cannoneers and called them as my obese squad. Regards to Vetkin, there is a secret in using Vetkin especially if you combine Vetkin with 4 Raiders they could totally destroy the base fast without getting killed. I been playing this game since they release this and I mastered all serpent skills and strategy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuMpiO 0 #141 Posted August 15, 2008 Budo is very good against canonner, put him in first line, and the canonner can not kill him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanenix 0 #142 Posted August 15, 2008 Budo's innate skill is he has a high endurance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reNekRoManT 3 #143 Posted August 20, 2008 but budo suck and very slow he no need to serpent clan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{Dark}KaBuKI 2 #144 Posted August 20, 2008 Well allow me to correct you on some of the choices you made. Starting with vetkin (his one of the most useful units in the game) if you know how to play. It's almost impossible to beat a good lotus player without vetkin. Gaihla is great since the wolf clan doesn't have any healer. longtooth is good too. the only one thats really not that useful is budo. Well if you're playing a long game and you want to collect rice faster just put a couple of healers next to the peasants and make then get rice faster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
green star 1 0 #145 Posted August 20, 2008 Well to me , Garrin has disappointed the most , because he is not as strong or quik as he looks . He wears well armored clothes but yet , he dies very quikly and he has a very big and strong sword but yet , his attak is poor . He certainly does not deserve those 2 yang points with heavy amount of rice and water . So I would say , he is the poorest . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{Dark}KaBuKI 2 #146 Posted August 21, 2008 Well to me , Garrin has disappointed the most , because he is not as strong or quik as he looks . He wears well armored clothes but yet , he dies very quikly and he has a very big and strong sword but yet , his attak is poor . He certainly does not deserve those 2 yang points with heavy amount of rice and water . So I would say , he is the poorest . true i think 2 yin is too much for him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mekani 0 #147 Posted August 21, 2008 Budo is by far the worst hero, his battlegear doesn't really help much, and if he's in the rice field, he can get assassinated by Koril and die in a few seconds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reNekRoManT 3 #148 Posted August 22, 2008 yes if play vs lotus in long game and budo will stay on rice he die eassy and fast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zefflei 0 #149 Posted August 25, 2008 This is my bottom 3 ( I mostly don't use) 1. Garrin = i rather spend the 2 yang for others... specially ARAH! 2. Budo = by the time i have built already a keep my economy is pretty much stable/good already 3. Soban = i summon him for him to create golems, i wont resummon him unless the golems are destroyed. My top 3 1. Yvaine 2. Arah 3. Grayback sidenote: vetkin is good for revealing enemy base rather than using ninjas... he's super fast that the enemy cant reach/attack him! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]diablo 1 #150 Posted February 23, 2009 some heros werent meant to attack. some of them have their purpose, like vetkin everybody agrees hes very useful. but budo can serve his purpose too, when you think of a fat guy you assume he doesnt take that much damage and budo doesnt really. and he regenerates life pretty well. so he can be good for tanking a tower. except someone who does explosive damage, other than that he can just stand there and take a beating. especially blunt. he can take that blunt like if its candy. well thats what i do, i let him tank almost anything that people put on towers except musck or warlock but people rarely put them so it works out you know. but yea wow garrin is an epic fail. if it wasnt for him calling horses so i cna use them as pack horses then he would of had no use for anything. hes weak and does gay damage. you would expect him to do the same type of damage a swordsmen does but he does the same type of damage grayback does. but he cant pull it off like him or even a swordsman for that matter. damn it i want to play br!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites