Serpent Rush

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

Easier said then done. Not everyone has your micro, darky.

[DDD 0]

Anyway my suggestion to an early serpent rush is using 2 crossbowman with weakness bolts and 4 swordsman. Keep the crossbowman away from melee units and just let the swordman do their worst while the crossbowman supports them with weakness bolts. When the swordsman dies retreat the crossbowman to a safe distance they can heal to full health, while you ready 4 more swordsman to add pressure on your enemy or beat them early.

[serpenty 1]

Sry, but I dont understand this strategy.

4 swordsmans + 2 weak bolt crossbowman in rush. You need to build tavern, sharpshooters guild, alchemist hut , thieves guild for it (475 rice, 275 water + 230/200 for units (why 4 swordsmans and 2 crossbowman?). Sniper or Horseman

rush can beat it easily. Tower also can be a problem.

[Kasedo 1]

yea, ais may be easy but they are fun to play against sometimes

2968[/snapback]

i agree with you sometimes is good and fun to play with them but sometimes they get me sick!

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

i agree with you sometimes is good and fun to play with them but sometimes they get me sick!

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you now kasedo yeah thats true they very good to practrice new strategies and to have some fun because the ais play a stupid way. but i do play them some times too.

[[LOT]gumbercules 0]

Doesnt sound like a serpent abuse counter at all. Sounds like a very good lotus strategy in which "any clan is bound to die."

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well actually there is a way to make sure you can tako out those units......smoke is your main first attack....making sure the cannonst take the hits from the warlocks....send glass sword..... before they encounter lotus send mugg...... since the mugg is runnig and glass is walking they will get there first........by the time they mugg ..... glass should arrive shortly taking out either staffs or brothers..... which then would give you the advantage......oh yea death sentry close to serpent units should be taken care of by the scope.... and i think death sentry close to the lotus should be taken out by the cannons either attacking directly or by the bouncing of the balls......... this way you dont loose your mugg.

[IndominusRex 13]

i think any lotus can lose to serpent.. with snipe and good micro... any units of lotus can die. smoke are lotus killer. 1 killed chan 2. helps mug to get in. 3. stop brother from blessing. 4. weaken lotus atttack which is mostly magic. smoke mug. then snipe aim for brother- lotus gone

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Yeah Darky I agree with you.. I play with ripper and Gryphon (They are very good lotus user). I can win them, but not that easy...

[IndominusRex 13]

Mugs sometimes doesnot work good vs dc:

Good lotus player can create group of brothers and staff adepts.

You can steal dc, your swordsmans die one-by-one, and your opponent simply recover dc back...

All that you win - few seconds without dc.

And dc protect lotus troops vs canons and snipes - your main atack force.

Lotus can also use death voil vs mugs in first line.

About vetkin: it working good, but sometimes he cannt escape.So, vetkin is one and adepts are many.And, i guess lotus ll not be keep them too close.

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You have a good idea too..

But about the

"your swordsmans die one-by-one".

Not really if the serpent has a very good micro. .

[Dragonsoul 3]

Like I said, bring the Necromancers to make zombies out of Glass swordmen.

[IndominusRex 13]

Like I said, bring the Necromancers to make zombies out of Glass swordmen.

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Yeah, necromanzer will help a lot.. but what about Glass swordmen? I wont help a lot since it can't run..

[PTcap 0]

Glass swordsman, really bad choice to fight lotus.

Necro Is a Must for a long Serpent vs Lotus, No doubt bout it

[serpenty 1]

Huh..

The only one way for atack with glass swordsmans that i know is mounted glassswordsmens(that a sound!). They can fast come in battle, use trample, and then after horse dead, use glass sword. Without horses they ca be used in defence,

especially vs raiding werewolfs.

Necro spirits is really good vs lotus. They can kill two biggest problems : dc's and chanellers who heal them and other (they also can kill deseased). If lotus army isnt very big sometimes 3 spirits can kill 1-2 units even without smoke.

And Vetkin is working good too, even if lotus have additional dc's in back line.

The joke is that all lotus units using stamina for their battlegears (no free battlegears (like fire arrows), no limited (like smoke). So after Vetkin lotus army looks like non-battlegears-noobish-army. But careful - massive magic and especially stafs can kill him with easily.

[Dragonsoul 3]

Indeed, Zymeth knows his own people's weaknesses. BG's of Lotus are all stamina-based. Except Rebirth. That's it.

[IndominusRex 13]

Have anyone know how to rush with xbow against lotus? It's pretty good..!

Hi Cobra Lee!

[Adeon 3]

lol

[IndominusRex 13]

Watch my video about xbow rushing.. you will know its pretty good..

[Adeon 3]

Where can l find it?

[IndominusRex 13]

Here

[Guest Aramid]

I have a question.... about serpent.... Utara has the battle gear song of sorrow... so is it counted as explosives or magic? when she sung it I am confused about it.... hmmmm... explosives or magic?

[IndominusRex 13]

It's magic... When you want to use it, just want to weaken first the enemy for using it.. It has a great damage if you do..

I often use shinja's battle first or Taro if in WInter of the wolf.. herhe

[Guest Aramid]

Ok.... that's why....hehehe... what is the best unit to earn lots and lots of YIN ... without using any battle gear to the unit.......hmmmm....

[IndominusRex 13]

We always use battle gear in a no rush game.. that's why serpent rules lotus.

[cptheslayer 2]

Ben, because u like Serpent, u say Serpent rule Lotus. Ur smoke and mug army won't work against a good Lotus with counter units. I don't play Lotus much; mostly i play Dragon and serpent in rush. But I think infested can own Canons(not sure). U can smoke them and smoke, but they never seem to care because smoke is their breathing air. How about mounted infested with Rebirth and upgrades? Oh that will take canons a long time to kill or fail to kill. U can mug, but infested deos not care. Im only talking about cannons vs infested. If u want to add other types of units in serpent army, Lotus can add different types of units too. So knowing that Serpent uses smoke, I would go for infested or staff. Time for trying something new. I am sick of using Warlocks.

[IndominusRex 13]

I can kill a person better than me if she/he use lotus..

For Example.. She/he say that Lotus is their best clan.. But I lost to his/her dragon.. So If She/he use lotus.. I have more chance to win.. About what type of units they use.. I can still use another type of unit if they use different units.. And yet, serpent is faster than lotus in traning.. I kill many good lotus players already..

I just agree with darky and my experimentation.. ANY GOOD SERPENT PLAYER CAN KILL A LOTUS IF HIS/HER MICRO ARE VERY GOOD.

[Guest Aramid]

Ok.... I agree that the training of serpent is the fastest and lotus is 2nd to them... wolf training sucks.... hmmmm... thats why I dont use Wolf...