Dragon Weaknesses

[cptheslayer 2]

i randomly play all the clans. I can't believe that i just found out a strat for Wolf that Dragon cannot or can hardly defeat. Based on my experience on line, I contend that Wolf can beat the hell out of Dragon. If you think about Wolf vs Dragon for a minute, you will see Dragon weakness that Wolf can take advantages of any time. For example, it is hard for Dragon to defeat Lotus because most Dragon units either have good res against magic or against explosive. They all don't have good res against both magic and explosive. Dragonwarriors have good res against magic, but weak against explosive. Kabuki are good against explosive but weak against magic. This is why it is hard to Dragon to kill Lotus. You can find this kind of weakness in Dragon when u play WOlf, and when u find it, oh you will be surprised how your peasants respect your knowledge. However, I can't quite find any Dragon weakness for Serpent to take advantage of; most Dragon units can form a combination to counter any type of Serpent army.

[Izaak 3]

Every clan has a general weakness. Lotus its slow unit movement; Wolf is lack of BGs. BGs counter alot of weaknesses. Also, unit variety really helps.

-Izaak, Lord of the Lotus Clan.

[Guest Aramid]

I treated Dragon and Wolf equal.... but when berserkers arrives using shale armor the tide change. Kabuki warriors are good to berserkers but their damage is being reduced....

[cptheslayer 2]

Dragon can't match up to Wolf due to Dragon's blunt and explosive weakness.

[cptheslayer 2]

Dragon can't match up to Wolf due to Dragon's blunt and explosive weakness.

[Guest Aramid]

Hmmmm....pitch slinger is the only unit in the wolf clan that can do explosive damage... well kabuki will kill them quickly... blunt attackers such as maulers and sledgers hmmm.....ok.... no unit can have a good armor in blunt and explosives....fine

[Speedy 11]

Izaak, that is not true Shale armour is a BG ... Plus they get the BG from the druid's blessings.

[Guest Aramid]

Shale armor is a battle gear. I believe battle gear is a wearable thingy that benefits the army or a unit....

[Izaak 3]

Kabukis can neutralize all ranged units using StarDust.

-Izaak, Lord of the Lotus Clan.

[cptheslayer 2]

Arimid, u r wrong about wolf units. Hurler's lava rocks and their normal blunt damage escorted with several druids to protect them from melee units is deadly in killing Dragon. Kabuki has poor res to blunt while sam and dragon warrior have poor explosive res. Kegs can't do much damage to hurlers and kegs can be engaged in a melee with a few shaled berserkers. This can stop many range units. Also, upgrade hurlers to be less likely to be hit by projectiles helps hurlers almost to be invulberable. Archers shoot projectiles, so the often miss hurlers. The only chance that a Dragon can stand and beat WOlf is to make good use of spirit or (im not sure about using chemists, never study this unist much). Spirit is the only key to beat Wolf, so u must heavily protect ur monument from being burned down. I would never attack u with my full force when i know u have spirit. I would try to send one or 2 berserkers to distract ur force from front then send 4 slingers to burn monument. Sacrifying 4 or 5 units is nothing in this strat because my main force has great advantage over Dragon when Dragon does not have spirit. The ratio is estimated to be (based on my experiece) greater than 1:2. This means that for each Wolf units can take down 2 Dragon units or more. Many games i have played, only 1/3 of my force is killed while my opponent's force is slaughtered. (Also, include 2 or sledgers with stun slam to allow time for druids to entangle those melee units and to give urself time to take advantages of your opponent's weaknesses. Always keep your totem in the middle of your force, this will slows down and weakens your opponent's units that approach your force.)

It seems to much to control? Well, not really. You will get used to it after many practices.

Again, some of u might reject what i have just said due to your experiences. Well we all have different strats and micro. As micro is key in BR, always look at the weaknesses and strengths and then think of a micro that can make an army overpower another army.

Now, I hate Dragon vs Dragon in late game. The spirits and towers keep the 2 enemies feared because none of the Dragon units can stand the spirit. Kabuki may still be alive after being hit by the spirit, but with just one or 2 hits by a normal unit, they are dead. One spirit is ok, but with 2 spirits availabe, how is each opponent going to win? So, when I play Dragon vs Dragon in late game, i don't send entire force to attack. I normally burns down towers first or just ID. Once there is no more towers, i can then just use sight arrow to look and then use one spirit. then rush in to fight(not with all units). These units will be blasted into pieces by spirit. After that send the rest of my force to attack while training more. If my opponent still has an ok army, my second spirit will take care of this. Never allow time for your opponent to build towers. I have a hard time winning in Dragon vs Dragon.

Dragon can beat Lotus in early game with Dragonwarriors because usally many Lotus players train staff, leaf, and unclean. Just tower up and get ds and train blades while getting dc. The best Dragon can do is to send fire archers to burn tower or buildings. But this will not stop u from getting dc. In you don't need to send Sehk to get stamina to get sc. Just train a combination of warlocks, blades, healers, 2 ds, 3-4 dw. This is all Lotus need to kill Dragon because the only Dragon unit that have high magic res is dragonwarrior. But dragonwarriors are weak against explosive. U can just move your warlocks back and shoot, but his might need greater micro. That is why u have blades to kill dragonwarriors. DW to suck dragonwarriors's stamina preventing them to use chi for a long time. Other unist that is send to attack Lotus will be rendered to ds. Just keep ur army in range position when Dragon uses stardust.

For Serpent Clan, i will post when I have the time to find a good combination of units to defeat Dragon. Now, all i know is that Serpent is weak against Dragon in late game.

[Guest Aramid]

hey cptheslayer how old are you? You know a lot in Battle realms I guess you're an old player here...hmmmmm..... Age please....

Thank You

[IndominusRex 13]

I know cptheslayer is about 20+ (Hehe, hopefully I am right... )

~BUT~

An Old age player doesn't mean that an old player in Battle Realms.. I am 16 years old now. Do you considered me as an old age player?

cptheslayer is right for wolf vs dragon... Wolf is very deadly for dragon..

[cptheslayer 2]

i am 21. I have been playing BR for only a few years. I didn't even know much about games. One day, my little bro was playing a pc game and when he stopped playing, I went online and searched for a few games to play. There I found BR demo, my first game. Then I started to play Demo and liked it. Then i went to a mall and got a copy of BR. Then I just played offline because I couldn't play online back then. I really sucked; I knew nothing about weakness or strength.

But in the last year, I found myself interested in reading about BR. However, the BR menu book is not useful in multiplayer. Skirmish or journey are a piece of cake. Many people called me noob when i started to play online. over time, i have had lots of experiences and learn more about weakness and strengths. Also, knowing which units is good for encountering another, and mostly online players like to use cannons/smoke, snipers, berserkers/shale, werewolves, warlocks/sc, ds, dc, archers, ID, i can train a combination of units to kill them. But this requires some godd micro because having a good army won't give you victory when you not know what to do with them.

Most players are never bored of using the same units. Because I am bored sometimes, I have studied about tir 1 or 2 units with their innate abilities and BG's. Then I try to put them into the game. Of course these low lvl unts are not strong by themselves. But with a few tir 3 or 4 units, they can be deadly. Another example of this is written down in my previous post about a combination of hurlers, druids, berserkers, sledgers, and ballistamen.

Another game I played last night, I was Wolf and my opponent was Serpent. He was a good player. I say this because I could tell just by how he micro and how diverse his army was. He was making musk and canons about equal size early in the game. He came to attack me. I expected him to come to rush me, but i had too much confidence in my army so i only was training ballistamen and built a tower up. Then I trained some hurlers and maulers to back my ballistamen by attking musk and prevent mukst from shooting at my ballistamen. I was outnumbered, but with a tower and some peasants running to attacking musk, my ballistamen were able to chase those canons back to his town. Then i upgrades mauler and sledgers. After about 1 or 2 min, I went to attack him with an army of ballistamen, druids, maulers and berserkers. I failed. But this was ok because I knew I could not win yet. It was just an attack to gain some yangs. Then I retreated. Now I upgrade my druids. Then game was lagging. Because of this i decided to attack him right after the lag was gone. By then, I had an army of about 5 ballistamen/shale, 4 maulers/shale, 3 berserkers/shale, 2 sledgers/stun, 2 druids/shale, 2 druids/blessings. I also had a few wolves. My opponent had musk and canon, of course with smoke and snipes. The battle was over quickly. I focused my berserkers on musk and maulers on canons, druids on units that tried to run. ballistamen on musk. Here came the units that helped me win: sledgers. i used sledgers to stun cannons. I had 2 sledgers because I could stun canons one after another. This also helps prevent canons from using too much smoke. But cannons can't do much damage to my maulers and sledgers because they were stunned most of the time. I trapped some musk and killing them with ballistamen. Then blessed my shaled berserkers that had red health. Then transformed him into werewolve. By this time almost all musk were killed. A few canons were still there taking huge damage from maulers. I didn't use sledgers to attack because I wanted them to regain stamina for another stun. The game kill score ratio was like 50:30.

[IndominusRex 13]

Wow, I am right... hehe anyway cptheslayer, you can share your stories here.

[cptheslayer 2]

of course i can. But ill make a new topic for played games discussions.

[Guest Aramid]

I am 16...hehehe.... I rarely play dragon because I hate some of their units I usually play lotus I like their BG's..

[IndominusRex 13]

Omg.. Dragon's BG are so powerful why ain't you like theM?

[Izaak 3]

I repeat: Star Dust will neutralize all ranged units, forcing them to either wait until its over, or making them run up and engage in melee. Cannoneers can kill them using flakk.

-Izaak, Lord of the Lotus Clan.

[Darky 1]

even though dragon is good.. but i feel so helpless, unless i have a great serpent player teaming with me, but on 1v1 i feel pretty good playing with dragon.

dragon do have some nice BG but i gotta time everything right, even peasants, rice, time the right number of peasant and such since building cost alot and serpent player can change it strategy anytime. so u always have to have extra rice to make counter or ull get owned by serpent. dragon is doomed against serpent unless u mass tower, but thats ga y to me, so dragon best weapon is usuage of horses and range attack and samurais.

[Izaak 3]

I keep repeating Star Dust but it seems I need to stop at it.

-Izaak, Lord of the Lotus Clan.

[Guest Aramid]

Stardust? hmmmm... I never loved that Battle gear since the kabukis are using it. When I use that battle gear my kabukis are now switching to missile attack. Their missile attack is so weak hmmmm... I have a hard time making them melee attack.....

[cptheslayer 2]

lol, did u mass kabuki/stardust? heehe just get 2 or 3 stardust. that is all u need. and keep them out of blunt attack. a few stardust and flash powders will keep your range units survive longer and even win.

[[ST]Fresco 0]

i think one good dragon player can beat one good wolf player in long game

cause fast yang

healers

horses

fast rice and water

and long range(indirect fire, arah, archers)

[Guest Aramid]

I tried experimenting Dragon against Wolf. Dragon wins against wolf cause of the said advantages above. Wolf units are just big but they are really weak inside..... -

[Speedy 11]

Here is an example.. I am Dragon, Fresco Wolf, Destroz and Cptheslayer both Wolf.. but we won anyway.