Dragon Clan Fanatics

[IndominusRex 13]

I remember our game we play that fresco watch us.. I have my necromanzer already but I forgot to use it.. hehe.. I just realize it when My tower is burned by you.. hehe

[AartT 0]

My tactic(depends of the moment):

Team 1: damagers army: archers with fire arrows if posible and two with zen arrows and arah

Team2: Prevents &support army: 4 kabukis sttoped with n whith stadust excep one with the other magic, and one chemist with mandrake spores( he makes faster health rate of units), otomo and sometimes spearmen with stun strike.

Team3: heal army:5 geishas with bg, one of them separed of the group try to put them in horses

Team4: harass army:2 sumo canoners with indirect fire

Team5: shield army and killer:6 samurais with dragon skin

Team6: Dragon monument

Team7: All peasants of the base

Team8: Budo

Team9: Garrin

Improvements: Zen Accuracy,The Art of Massage,Arrow craftmanship basically

All tactic dont need be done at time only the most important thing are archers and geishas, next kabukis and stardust, horses dont need.

Against snipers ballistamen and archers attack first with arah, she have good resistance against piercing, against samurais ronins, werewolves and necromancer use fire arrows. prevent mugging and dark kanopi bg with stunstrike. Stardust have short period of time, you have to shoot it constantly.

Difficult to win against lotus, use vs lotus massive stardust and dragon warriors with chi shield and geishas covering them, vs wolf use better yang blade and flash powder, hint:while using stardust dont need to use dragon skin. Vs serpent try defending rush with watchtower and make archers geishas and kabukis, the order of making can be changed, vs dragon make kabukis with stardust and flashpowder, try to make dragon spirit against dragon and serpent, use a separed geisha with sacrifice against dragon spirit and give first calistenics improvement to your sumo cannoners if using them. Oh something more, vs wolf try to attack you first and then back to kill wolves, use watchtowers charge.

In all games stardust is useful, use kabukis to prevent indirect fire enemy by using them like bait and then shoot stardust.

Hints: Flashpowder make the enemies takes double damage and blind them, mandrake spores prevents melee attacks because short range of fire of chemist, stun strike can paralize staff adepts, mounted units, and prevent the enemy do hit & run, they can paralize pitchslingers andraiders to prevent them fire buildings, in Valley of death try to get up the mountain with kabuki with stardust and archers and cover it while your partner cover enemies from across the river with your watchtowers, watchtowers can paralice staff adepts while they do dc, do stardust to do enemy get near tower and cannot let him to shoot it. by attacking with samurais with dragon skin you can make the enemy waste soul chill, keep a teamed geisha with sacrifice a bit far and quiet with "o" of your army to heal people when enemi use sould chill indirect fire, dragon spirit or something.

Dont let your kabuki die, make the geishas covering them, and dont let your geishas die when enemy attack them, try running with geishas and make enemy lose the time, finally sacrifice one of them.

In watchtowers you can put geishas, is useful because they cannot die and they can heal all time, if enemy blind you you can keep seeing with watchtower, if dont, quick shoot a zen arrow, by some reason archers are resistant to smoke bombs or something, use them against cannoners, they can shoot when smoke all time.

You have to understand that your basic enemies are soul chill(because stardust dont make anything against this), watchtowers killers(raiders, pitch slingers) and swordmans with mug or whitout it, rushing your base before you make enough archers and geishas or kabukis. Death Sentries should be destroyed after all with archers or something.

Sometimes a retirement at time is the key to win, try to take advantage of your enemy errors, dont try to assure your victory and try to take the initiative in the game, you can also loose all games you play but you assure you have played well in each one.

Sometimes when you have a mistake you can see that dont be a mistake and you did well without wanting.

To make units I prefer making huts and putting the flags after they are built because I have more time to move my combat units an do other things like observe the enemy and the ally or talk. At the first of the game I prefer putting manually peasants in houses, because is better and easier.

I use sometimes with peasant give a order like build a hut and then put the flag of the hut before he finished "shift+alt" and give next order the peasant like get rice or water or train, the units automatically do the orders.

Very useful to use these buttons: control,alt,shift,o,n,s and b,f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,f6.

Use f keys when shooting smoke bombs,death sentries,totems,zen arrows.

I prefer keep my units alive before killing enemy units.

Atacking first we should kill enemy geishas and poor resistant units to damage that im doing.

[[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5]

ur main problem with a dragon vs lotus is tha DC and SC.....

if lotus didnt have them 2 BG'z dragon can win easily with DF....

nice essay lookin page we got herr....LOLZ....

[AartT 0]

thanks, iknow what you said because i died and lossed a lot of games against lotus because my micro with archers and kabukis, my strategy and intelligence.

Vs lotus the most important thing is do not make a watch tower and do a rush, with archers and geihas, while attacking make stun strike. The enemy will surely die if does not your tactic. consist in stun staff adepts and back and keep recharge resistance, do 3 or more spearmen, because they could die, when you attack.

In fact dark kanopi is not an enemy for me, the real enemy is sc, death sentries, unclean brother magic, and warlock normal attack (do a lot of damage and shoot quick)those things at the same time can kill my army, I use sometimes kabukis to kill staff adepts by using too flash powder or dont and using stardust, staff adept have weak point in magic damage and kabukis resistant to explosive damage from warlocks, sometimes the stardust prevents death sentries and smoke bombs if i did it faster and cnstantly.

[[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5]

hmm that could be good but remember lotus tower ability which could kill ur men easily...

and on top of that what dummy is just gonna watch u rush them of course they will be making there own units aswell for defence which will make it harder to rush...

[AartT 0]

oh, i keep far away of towers and sometimes i try to destroy it first or attack in other side. For the second you said I dont have problem because melee units of lotus are slow without horses and my eney dont know what im doing .

Oh i forget to say something before, when playing in team some tactics dont need kile stun strike if my ally have swordmen that is better, and very important thing, trying using dragon spirit against lotus when he does not have dc on, I won a game doing that, the enemies was playing with lotus and try to escape because my ally used vetkin and i taked advantages and shoot inmediately dragon spirit and kill alot of people.

[[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5]

hmmm AartT whu was ur opponent.....

a good lotus player would keep a dc behind his army so it dont get mugged or DW or vetkin or stunned so maybe it was due to his lack of skillz....

[][-AN-][-Ragereaver 0]

it is always nice to see horse abuser gets snatched of his horses and get killed.

Only Serpent can steal horses from the horse rusher. Tower up and get musk. Then get snipers asap. Before u have snipes, u can hit and run or just stay in town near the tower. Once mounted swordmen get close, use tower charge. Then command each of ur musk to get the horses. Then trample the swordmen to death.

A good player never send mounted units in serpent or lotus tower range. If he does not do that, then once u have snipes, go kill the mounted swordsmen. Formation of ur snipers is important. Spread them far apart from each other. Since ur opponents focuses on horses and swordsmen, he or she will not have much more resources to build different units unless of course he cheats. This will allow u to dismount the swordsmen and snatch their horses if they dare to approach in sniper range. If they cowardly hide in their town, just attack whatever that is in ur sight. Don't forget to build different buildings when u can such as tavern to get a few raiders to burn their town.

Also don't forget to upgrade musk. upgrade the blunt and piercing res before the do more damage because u don't need any extra damge to kill swordsmen, in fact, u might need the blunt res just in case ur opponent is able to get cannons. But your opponent can't do that because he has loads of swordmen. He can upgrade swordsmen to bandits, but that needs time and resources. Then onces again, bandits do piecing damage. Ur upgraded musk should be able to handle those bandits without running around. Just snipe them.

If your opponent is able to train their swordsmen into bandits then into Ronnins, just inactivate snipescope and watch those ronins fall. Mostly, ur opponent will be able to make any other units as u put pressure on his base and attaking their building.

I would go for the water and rice hut and limit their resources even though i know my opponent's units are outnumbered. I do this because every unit of mines should not die just because of my haste to victory.

Once again, it depends on how fast u r able to manage the game. I used this strat 3 times and I had ez time countering the rush and counterattack my enemies. In 2 of the games, i even got free horses to mount, heeheh. In one of the game, my opponent rushed in but retreated once he saw my tower and my musks were shooting his mounted swordsmen. Then i get snipes and positioned them in a formation near my opponent's base. I used some of the units to attack. When the swordsmen didn't expect me to  have snipes, he rushed his horsemen to chase my musks. As a result of his mistake, i got free horses once again.

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This strategy is not bad in serpent vs. serpent, but I thought we were talking about dragon vs serpent?

[AartT 0]

they was two people playing with lotus at time, i dont remember, but you say is totally false because lotus cant stun an enemy, i was shooting stardust and my ally go with vetkin, smoke bombs and some swordmen. And if lotus keep dc back he dont cover is units at the front of attack and cant go to attack if dont go first with staff adepts, and next with the army, i knwo they are noobs because they gets lotus at time, if they get lotus and other clan they will kill ours, but they was lotus abusers. I remember they used diseased to keep away mug but with smoke bombs and resistance bar of diseased finally the forece of the constantly attack makes his fruits, or somethng more, try to put your own tactics and try to understand my word before say anything. The swordman are resistant to explosive and his basic magic is that when they run they cant be easy hit by proyectiles, thats the reason they can pass throgh warlocks and if they are alot of them better. They only need to do a slash to activate his bg what do area effect. If they dont get the staff adepts they will mug all other bg of the lotus that makes the next time easily. Swordman good against all clans because his bg his faster creation, cheap and easy to rush.

[[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5]

spears are stronger and better than swords if u ask me....

[AartT 0]

Swormans can evade shots and mug enemy bg, and they are made faster than spear, spear can paralyze one enemy and they dont evade shots. hmm i dont know why you think that spear are better when all people know that sworman are better.

[[LOT]rundown 3]

So you say that swordmen are better than spearmen. So you think an army of swordmen will beat an army of spearmen. Spearmen are better than swordmen. Mass spearmen vs mass swordmen, spearmen will win everytime. Trust me.

[[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5]

thank you rundown.....

ummm AartT dont alwayz think ur right ok....

[K-DaSh 0]

This topic is for Dragon users and Dragon Fanatics only.

Discuss strategies, hints & tips, secrets, and the whole whatnot.

I will start off with, a moderate rush:

- works best in twisted fate map.*

- need full cooperation with partner.*

- need an excellent micro.*

- need to know how to play dragon*

1) First start off making archers/fire and geisha,

2) Then use the army as a hit and run technique,

burn buildings, kill units, mess opponent up.

3) While screwing the opponent's strategy, quickly build town center,

and keep.

4) By this time you should have 2 yang,

use the yang to make arah.

5) Make extra peasants into archers/fire.

6) Hit and run until opponent can't take it anymore,

and makes a stupid mistake by attacking you.

7) Here is where your partner comes in and eliminates the opponent's army.

8) Then sit back and enjoy watching their towns burn down.

A few kabuki/flash, or samurais with dragonskin may help.

Dragon Fire helps a hell of a lot in this situation.

I am used to this so I can muster up a victory every game, so don't think if you lose with this, that this strategy sucks. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T!

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Such strat is hella good, but also its hella old and hella used by every1, personally i think this strat is more efficent in twisted fate map, anyways to stop those gayarchers makers i just shoot loads and loads of hella smoke to stop them and my partner kills them (if canonballs dont kill them)

[Speedy 11]

Rundown and Art, it all depends on the situation..

Spearmen may beat Swordsmen, but against other units it is different.

For example, because of strengths and weaknesses Swordsman would be better against Arah than a Spearman, Swordsmen would also be better than Spearmen against Archers, because of the innate.

In other cases, Spearmen would come off better aswell.. Like i said it all depends on the units involved.

Rundown is right about Spearmen Vs Swordsmen Aart..

[[{BeatZ}]-BIG_aLvZ- 5]

well i was also in it baxter lol...

and we were talkin about rush related units....

[Burning_Chicken 0]

Meh, I'm an offline player but I guess I'll suggest what I do with dragon against my few friends 0_o

I start the game off by making a small melee army of 1 Kabuki with Flash Powder and 3-4 Spearmen with whirling spear, 1 Archer with zen arrow to scout the base and approx 3-4 Powder Kegs with Indirect Fire. I then just blow up buildings, while attacking the defending units with my small melee army and attempt to get as many yang points as possible.

After that, I try see what the enemy is making with Zen Arrow, while making a few Geisha. If they have more melee I make more Powder Kegs with Shrapnel Keg, but if they have more ranged, I make more archers and Dragon Warriors. Then the game goes back and forth until one of us dies D= - occasionally throwing in a few Zen Masters, Samurai. I hardly use Samurai 0_o

[Yami_Jason 0]

wow burning chicken lol hahaha

[Yami_Jason 0]

wow burning chicken lol hahaha