The Death Penalty

[Troispoint 0]

Personnally, giving the right to commit murder to the government while its a criminal to do it as an individual is just stupid on so many levels.

Thoughts?

[Mana 3,867]

Your poll needs to have the death penalty:

No

I don't have an opinion

I don't see a Yes. You should fix it.

[Troispoint 0]

fixed

[Mana 3,867]

fixed

Goodjob.

[Alucard winrar 0]

Goodjob using 2 different accounts on the same forum.

[You suck and have no life 203]

i vote yes. Saves tax payers money. It costs 40k a year to keep keep one inmate locked up. So if he lives 50 years. Thats 2million dollars.

[Troispoint 0]

i vote yes. Saves tax payers money. It costs 40k a year to keep keep one inmate locked up. So if he lives 50 years. Thats 2million dollars.

Ok, here's another way to put it: whats more important, money or justice? You've just choosed money.

[You suck and have no life 203]

Ok, here's another way to put it: whats more important, money or justice? You've just choosed money.

No. For a person to be considered for death sentence, he probably did something bad. When you have 6 billion people on the world, nobody is going to notice when a few bad apples disappear.

[Torch 0]

You've just - choosed - money.

I choose spelling!

[Oww My Nose 19]

i chose rehabilitation over giving the government power to kill people

[You suck and have no life 203]

Would you chose to pay an extra 20% of your salary for it?

FYI, there is a cost to everything, even human life. Don't believe me?

1. We have the technology to deck every troop out with batman gear. It costs 3 million dollars. But we dont, and how many thousand have died?

2. Each year, 50000 people are killed on the roads from accidents. We could lower all speed limits to 30 mph, or manufacturer cars that can survive 80mph crashes. The cost of the car is only 5 million dollars. Why dont we all have crash proof cars?

3. We have the technology to essentially keep an AIDS victim alive indefinitely, and even to the point where HIV is below detectable limits (like Magic Johnson). But why don't we? Oh wait it costs a lot.

People think a human life is priceless, thats a lie. These aren't my opinions, I'm just stating out the plain facts.

[Camail 1]

Look, I don't have an opinion at the moment because this is a pretty useless topic. All I can say is that it can't be the governments responsibility to change people. To use the creation of man to change man is never going to happen, people make their choices and I say right now we shouldn't have to support them. Gas the bastards.

[Mana 3,867]

If there is enough evidence. no hearsay/circumstantial (I mean concrete evidence) especially in repeat offenders (serial killers/rapists) then by all means... Yes, please! Why should other people's tax money be spent on fuckers who don't care about others at all?

Another solution would be to ship of those who were convicted with ample amount of evidence to places where they could live on their own and be of no threat to anyone but each other. It would waste much less money and if executed correctly wouldn't annoy too many people. (Russia is a BAD example of this.... as they usually purposely sent the wrong [smart] people to Siberia).

I mean... a "retreat" in the middle of Iceland or some other "middle of nowhere" would do fine...and save money! They would both be out of the country and they could go hunt the local wildlife and there could be some guards positioned around the place to make sure that people aren't fleeing to there other parts of nowhere.

[Oww My Nose 19]

Another solution would be to ship of those who were convicted with ample amount of evidence to places where they could live on their own and be of no threat to anyone but each other. It would waste much less money and if executed correctly wouldn't annoy too many people. (Russia is a BAD example of this.... as they usually purposely sent the wrong [smart] people to Siberia).

I mean... a "retreat" in the middle of Iceland or some other "middle of nowhere" would do fine...and save money! They would both be out of the country and they could go hunt the local wildlife and there could be some guards positioned around the place to make sure that people aren't fleeing to there other parts of nowhere.

England tried this once, then went back 50 years later to see what happened. They said G'day mate!

[Troispoint 0]

Sometimes, some people get wrongly convicted, I don't think it would be right to allow those people to die. And again, the government shouldn't have more the right to kill than the people.

[Camail 1]

When you are born and choose to stay in the country you live in you sign an agreement. In the USA it is that if you take away anyone's rights your rights are null. I believe in a totalitarian rule. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Sure, some mistakes will be made, but in every circumstance there will be mistakes and injustices. You say the government should not have the right to kill people, right? So you plan on letting a mass murderer have the same punishment as someone who robbed a bank? If someone is going to be sentenced to death, I can see no way that it could be the wrong person. You kill one person, you have your life in prison, kill more and you don't get the pleasure. In all honesty I would rather have rehabilitation, but it would never happen.

[Troispoint 0]

sounds like a good compromise

[Jengo 0]

When you are born and choose to stay in the country you live in you sign an agreement. In the USA it is that if you take away anyone's rights your rights are null. I believe in a totalitarian rule. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Sure, some mistakes will be made, but in every circumstance there will be mistakes and injustices. You say the government should not have the right to kill people, right? So you plan on letting a mass murderer have the same punishment as someone who robbed a bank? If someone is going to be sentenced to death, I can see no way that it could be the wrong person. You kill one person, you have your life in prison, kill more and you don't get the pleasure. In all honesty I would rather have rehabilitation, but it would never happen.

lol

So, you're saying you were born with perfect comprehension to make the choice of where you wanted to live? Absolutely not. Your parents/gaurdians make that decision for you. You are unable to make that choice until you are legally considered an adult.

In the USA, criminals have rights too. I'm not sure where you got that if someone takes someone else's rights away that their rights get taken away. If you have any information on where you got that, please post. Our criminals get treated better than most of our poor. They get 3 meals a day, free medical, free utilities. They have more rights than you think they do. Only some of their rights are taken away.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Sure, some mistakes will be made, but in every circumstance there will be mistakes and injustices.

If someone is going to be sentenced to death, I can see no way that it could be the wrong person.

How can you say both of those things? Makes no sense.

I believe in capital punishment as long as it is warranted. For a single murder, no. For multiple murders, as in a serial killing, yes.

Oh, and yousuck is right about there being a price on human life. Airline companies use those figures to determine whether or not a new safety measure would be cost effective to implement, comparing the cost of refiitting with the cost of lives lost based upon the odds of a failure. However, that value of human life is an opinion based upon statistical information, not a fact.

[silvio 0]

God,politics...wonder what controversial poll topic is next.Abortion?

[Camail 1]

Look, I don't have an opinion at the moment because this is a pretty useless topic.

QFT

I'm just babbling and feel like taking part in another useless topic that in the long run its a waste of space.

[Nket 16]

If you killed 1 person, life in prison no parole no chance of release. if you have killed 2 or more people you have official taken more life than you are worth and therefore need to be removed from this planet.

[Alucard winrar 0]

Airlines need to stay in business somehow, flying giant airbags with ejection seats fighter jet style for every person just isnt economically feasible. It's not that they dont want to, its that no one would buy a $100000 ticket.

Oh and about not choosing the country to live in, once you turn 18 you get two new magical abilities. One I call the majicks of the elders where you are now considered an adult and can now be tried as one(ie if you kill 5 ppl in front of a surveillance camera, you die). The other is the spell of mobility where you can now get the fuck out of the country if you dont like it. Considering the timing of both at once I think you have ample time to choose a new residence before killing 10 ppl so you dont get the death penalty.

[KillerKeg 10]

If someone was deserving of being executed and the government wouldn't do it...

then SSS.