Dealing with Abuse

[Dragonsoul 3]

Yes, that's the hotkeys. Everybody knows that.

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

Don't forget D and B.

D is to dismount from a horse.

B is to activate or deactivate battlegear.

[[LOT]rundown 3]

I think B was mentioned earlier and yea, D is dismount

[Dragonsoul 3]

Isn't that what he just said.

[[LOT]rundown 3]

huh? I was just summing it up

[{FB}SubZero 0]

omg i hate play vs cobra clan and nX clan only know smoke and smoke and more smoke lol

[{Dark}WarlockLord 0]

Well that is a big abuse of smoke from both of the clans.

[IndominusRex 13]

Is abuse cheat?

For me:

I don't think so... I play for more than 4 years back, but I don't consider abuse is cheat, since I can counter it. and I also abuse.

omg i hate play vs cobra clan and nX clan only know smoke and smoke and more smoke lol

5316[/snapback]

You are prefering to me? I am the leader of nX, if you hate to play with us, then don't play.. but this does not mean that I use smoke.. My clan member do. I like snipers than cannoners

[Guest [LOT]Phate]

i like nX all of them are good but i wonder what happen to them i havent seen any of them in awhile

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

Cobra and Nx are good friends of mine in br.. i really like their style and i dont consider smoke or snipers as abuse...........

[{Dark}CoolGuy 1]

Well if you want to play then play fair use smoke but not mass so the other person can't even see a thing.

[[LOT]diablo 1]

for me counter attacking sniper is harder than smoke..... but thats my point of view

[Dragonsoul 3]

Snipers are weaklings in melee. If anybody try to suffocate me to death with smokes, I'll just abuse ID, DC, DS, etc. Abusers will get abused back by me. :angry:

[LordDianWei 1]

ROTFLMAO

all you guys who used to talk shit to me and say smoke bombs and canopy were just fine are now complaining about it.

Thats so great , you guys always come around to the truth i suppose. It only takes time and experience.

These bugs are the reason so many left. And why so many stay away.

Im sure by now (most of) you know how frustrating it is to get beat by bugs/abuse.

Anyways tealjacket is correct. mostly.

And all these counters you guys are making up to beat the bugs are ridiculous, werewolves with wolfbite... cmon man. Cannons are a tier 2 unit, werewolves are a blessed tier 4 unit. I can mass an army of cannons WAY faster then you can get your mass tier 4s.

And besides the real problem is that the tactics of the game are cramped because you have to play to beat the abuses that are present.

[Yai 0]

Gotta agree with Dian on this one.

What makes this game sad when playing with certain ppl is that you know that they gonna abuse so you have counter it. What I meant it its not surprising as before. Some ppl only do 2 kinds of units a whole game and thats a pity.

In long games its more fun to mix it up.

[{FB}SubZero 0]

Cobra and Nx are good friends of mine in br.. i really like their style and i dont consider smoke or snipers as abuse...........

5395[/snapback]

lol when you lose always said abusers! and now you dont think mass smoke is abuse?

i agree with dian too because in games of teams is really hard beat mass smoke + other clan

[LordDianWei 1]

What people seem to never realize is that the most commonly used battle gears are bugged. This is evidence that they have no idea why they are winning. Which is further evidence that they arent really good players. Just copying what beat them so many times. Its to bad.

See to understand how this all happend you would have to have been here before battlepack 3.

There was a time when well balanced armies would beat massing (mostly) and then came bp3. It added a ton of new bugs. It changed resistances (for the worse) and it completely changed the game we had been playing for the past 2 years.

So with these new bugs came a new type of player. I like to call them the cannon player. These were the guys who were not so great pre-bp3. They were not very fast, they pretty much just turtled up in their mase. But now these guys were winning with mass cannons/mass musketeers/mass staffs/mass unclean. 1-2 unit armies that didnt even need healing. Before this patch it was almost unheard of to have geisha and lose to an enemy who didnt have geisha. Not anymore. Now it really pays to sit in your base until you can tech to these couple of battle gears that are overpowering(due to bugs) and then go when you feel safe. Before that turtling was only a problem if you gave the enemy time to do it.

Now add in the fact that cannons are getting the siege bonus right when the game starts (thats right, its bugged, they start off with steel cannonballs. Dont bother training it, its a waste of yin) have a battlegear that stacks when its not supposed to. Can use it more times then is listed and have no fire penalty because of it.

Now do you understand why this is broke? Now do you see why so many of us left never to come back?

So think all you want that you are good, that your skill is better then anyone and were just whiners with a chip on our shoulder. The truth of the matter is YOUR battle realms is a very different place then MY battle realms ever was. The way all of you play is a sad reminder to me of how good this game could have been....

I hate to sound like the broken record of bad news, but everything you guys are doing here weve already done. Theres no way around it. You get lucky sometimes. Most times you dont. With most players accepting these tactics as long as they win it will never change. I see most clans on these boards use these same tactics and yet denounce them here.

Guys my suggestion. Get empire at war.

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

yeah many noops start to win by abusing battle gear example cannons with smokes there is people that only make a army of smoke..

[IndominusRex 13]

i like nX all of them are good but i wonder what happen to them i havent seen any of them in awhile

5390[/snapback]

Actually, I am from nX-LUNAR and I made it... Anyway no more nX-LUNAR because the case of villeplate and some other use smokes too much.. No one can see a single (no thanX)-LUNAR anymore.. Thank you..

[IndominusRex 13]

omg i hate play vs cobra clan and nX clan only know smoke and smoke and more smoke lol

5316[/snapback]

Not all of us are using smoke... Not all of us always serpent..

[IndominusRex 13]

for me counter attacking sniper is harder than smoke..... but thats my point of view

5546[/snapback]

For me, to counter smoke is easier than sniper..

[LordDianWei 1]

Its not that cannons are hard to counter, the reason why mass smoke is hard to counter is that because of a bug they stack when they arent supposed to. So your units lose 25% resistance every time they are hit. Plus by using the fkeys you can force the cannons to shoot more then 4 smoke bombs. And you can make them shoot them real fast like a machine gun. Same with ballist.

[IndominusRex 13]

Its not that cannons are hard to counter, the reason why mass smoke is hard to counter is that because of a bug they stack when they arent supposed to. So your units lose 25% resistance every time they are hit. Plus by using the fkeys you can force the cannons to shoot more then 4 smoke bombs. And you can make them shoot them real fast like a machine gun. Same with ballist.

5698[/snapback]

I saw someone shot me with a machine gun.. I lost that game though huhuhu..

[[LOT]rundown 3]

I thought we might want to bring this topic back to life instead of making a whole new one again.

What people seem to never realize is that the most commonly used battle gears are bugged. This is evidence that they have no idea why they are winning. Which is further evidence that they arent really good players. Just copying what beat them so many times. Its to bad.

See to understand how this all happend you would have to have been here before battlepack 3.

There was a time when well balanced armies would beat massing (mostly) and then came bp3. It added a ton of new bugs. It changed resistances (for the worse) and it completely changed the game we had been playing for the past 2 years.

So with these new bugs came a new type of player. I like to call them the cannon player. These were the guys who were not so great pre-bp3. They were not very fast, they pretty much just turtled up in their mase. But now these guys were winning with mass cannons/mass musketeers/mass staffs/mass unclean. 1-2 unit armies that didnt even need healing. Before this patch it was almost unheard of to have geisha and lose to an enemy who didnt have geisha. Not anymore. Now it really pays to sit in your base until you can tech to these couple of battle gears that are overpowering(due to bugs) and then go when you feel safe. Before that turtling was only a problem if you gave the enemy time to do it.

Now add in the fact that cannons are getting the siege bonus right when the game starts (thats right, its bugged, they start off with steel cannonballs. Dont bother training it, its a waste of yin) have a battlegear that stacks when its not supposed to. Can use it more times then is listed and have no fire penalty because of it.

Now do you understand why this is broke? Now do you see why so many of us left never to come back?

So think all you want that you are good, that your skill is better then anyone and were just whiners with a chip on our shoulder. The truth of the matter is YOUR battle realms is a very different place then MY battle realms ever was. The way all of you play is a sad reminder to me of how good this game could have been....

I hate to sound like the broken record of bad news, but everything you guys are doing here weve already done. Theres no way around it. You get lucky sometimes. Most times you dont. With most players accepting these tactics as long as they win it will never change. I see most clans on these boards use these same tactics and yet denounce them here.

Guys my suggestion. Get empire at war.

5666[/snapback]

Ofcourse it's different from your BR because it was different people playing. About the abuse. DC and Smoke isn't the problem anymore. There is ways to beat them.

SC though is the real problem. It hurts by an extreme amount and barely any units have armor against it. What makes it worse is if the guy gets issyl too. Then it's pretty much good game. Though I have beaten it before. Like one game me and d beat sc with issyl when we had 2 dragons. O they were noobs you say, they knew what they were doing but....Well like you said before anyone can do it and makes them look good but really they aren't that good cause it's the only thing they can do.

About most clans on these boards use........ Me and diablo never make mass smoke. I don't like it. I would rather mass snipes. Mass DC, I usually make 3 at max cause that's all you need. About SC I almost never make it, that's just the way I am. I usually make it only if they massively smoke me or sometimes if they mass sc me. And to that I don't play lotus much because I don't like to.

There isn't many clans left. Some abuse those tactics while others don't.

[{Dark}KaBuKI 2]

i think there is no rules in this game that saids how many cannons with smoke or cannons withid you can make so why do people conplain so much......