BabyEater 5 #1 Posted March 29, 2012 Player: Barnaby Jones STEAMID: STEAM_0:1:32024502 Time: 2AM EST -5 Server: 24/7 insta spawn 2fort chicago Reason: Donor abuse Summary: Guy was using the Pomson, a legit weapon, Barnaby was raging as you can see in chat and votekicked him just because he was using a weapon. Proof: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nano 7,892 #2 Posted March 29, 2012 LOL. as funny as this is, It looks accidental. It sounds like he was jokingly saying "We should votekick because of pomson >.<" but if the first word is votekick and the 2nd the beginning of their name (as is above) it would automatically initiate a kick. If it happened multiple times I could see otherwise, but imho, this could have just been an accident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerberos 3,170 #3 Posted March 29, 2012 LOL. as funny as this is, It looks accidental. It sounds like he was jokingly saying "We should votekick because of pomson >.<" but if the first word is votekick and the 2nd the beginning of their name (as is above) it would automatically initiate a kick. If it happened multiple times I could see otherwise, but imho, this could have just been an accident. a It would initiate a votekick even if there's a complete sentence after the "command"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teh_pwnerer 279 #4 Posted March 29, 2012 Doesn't look like an accident to me - looks like he tried to add the reason after his votekick, but for some reason the server didn't interpret that correctly and just started an 'afk/idle' votekick. I agree - initiating an instant votekick on someone because of the weapon they are using is L-A-M-E. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nano 7,892 #5 Posted March 29, 2012 a It would initiate a votekick even if there's a complete sentence after the "command"? yup. If the first word is votekick and the 2nd word is the first letter or two of a persons name (followed by a space) I believe it will instantly initiate a votekick, no matter how much or what you put after. Example: ProLoser: I'm going to ProLoser: votekick Will for being a noob Would instantly start a votekick against you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willerms 1,794 #6 Posted March 29, 2012 People often try and get me to votekick people for being bad players. I understand if I'm the bad player, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teh_pwnerer 279 #7 Posted March 29, 2012 There's nothing wrong with a votekick for any reason in my opinion - but it IS wrong to initiate an INSTANT votekick based on a reason that's not justified. So for example, if everyone in the server had a problem with Individual(x) using a certain weapon, fair enough - if there's enough initial votes to START a voteban then it's the opinion of the entire server that this person is disrupting gameplay by using that weapon. But if a donator starts an INSTANT votekick they better have a good reason for it (in my opinion). The fact that a donator is getting pwned by a n00b because he's using an AWP (or in this case a Pomsom - whatever the heck that is! ) is NOT a valid reason to initiate a voteban (again, all my opinion!) 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerberos 3,170 #8 Posted March 29, 2012 Bang on, crushed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BabyEater 5 #9 Posted March 29, 2012 This was not an accident or a joke, i guess you had to see how badly he was raging for the 5 minutes before the kick about how the guy using the pomson is a nolife noob etc. I could have screenshotted more, i suppose if this isn't enough proof then next time i will make sure i have plenty of proof. I only told Barnaby his name because i knew Barnaby was going to votekick him, i even told the Gritz guy via mic that if he was votekicked i would report Barnaby for abuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nano 7,892 #10 Posted March 29, 2012 You'll have to excuse my pushback, please understand it isn't that I don't see where you are coming from, I do. In rl I work in compliance/legal for a fortune 100 company, so my standards of proof are probably a little higher than a forum on the interwebz (or than they need to be) when I cast judgement . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadSh0tBrent 2,156 #11 Posted March 30, 2012 There's nothing wrong with a votekick for any reason in my opinion - but it IS wrong to initiate an INSTANT votekick based on a reason that's not justified. So for example, if everyone in the server had a problem with Individual(x) using a certain weapon, fair enough - if there's enough initial votes to START a voteban then it's the opinion of the entire server that this person is disrupting gameplay by using that weapon. But if a donator starts an INSTANT votekick they better have a good reason for it (in my opinion). The fact that a donator is getting pwned by a n00b because he's using an AWP (or in this case a Pomsom - whatever the heck that is! ) is NOT a valid reason to initiate a voteban (again, all my opinion!) A WHILE CRUSHED HAS APPEARED! HE IS SOOOO RARE TO SEE HURRY CATCH IT!!!! *Uses attack* *fails* HeadSh0tBrent: FUCK! *Tries again* *Fails* The wild Crushed has gotten away! HeadSh0tBrent: >:3 I also agree with the above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shiny Charizard 451 #12 Posted March 30, 2012 yup. If the first word is votekick and the 2nd word is the first letter or two of a persons name (followed by a space) I believe it will instantly initiate a votekick, no matter how much or what you put after. Example: ProLoser: I'm going to ProLoser: votekick Will for being a noob Would instantly start a votekick against you. LOL. as funny as this is, It looks accidental. It sounds like he was jokingly saying "We should votekick because of pomson >.<" but if the first word is votekick and the 2nd the beginning of their name (as is above) it would automatically initiate a kick. If it happened multiple times I could see otherwise, but imho, this could have just been an accident. Two problems with that. 1. He never said anything before so you're example wouldn't work. He didn't go... Name: We should Name: Votekick Gritz etc. etc. He asked who it was, said ok, then a little later did the votekick. 2. He voted to for kick so it wasn't an accident. AFK kicks are never questioned. Its the go to for this stuff. I'm thinking the Votekick didn't take so he started one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BabyEater 5 #13 Posted March 30, 2012 I just noticed something. The guys name is actually Grritz with 2 r's. So if Barnaby typed out votekick Gritz as shown in the screenshot it would have said 'Player not Found'. Barnaby had to have used the menu to start the vote. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nano 7,892 #14 Posted March 30, 2012 I've changed my mind. Here is his chatlog: http://stats.lotuscl...es/chat/1275634 He votekicks quite a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teh_pwnerer 279 #15 Posted March 30, 2012 A WHILE CRUSHED HAS APPEARED! HE IS SOOOO RARE TO SEE HURRY CATCH IT!!!! The wild Crushed has gotten away! lmfao, this reminds me of the Wampus from the classic video game M.U.L.E. Even I'm too young to have played that game when it was released, but being a retro-gaming-addict I have spent MANY hours playing MULE, and catching the wampus was a classic part of that game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Cactus 4,948 #16 Posted March 30, 2012 Compiled a short list of what Barnaby complains about being n00b weapons (taken from chat - though he does love his Cow Mangler): Shortstop; Soda Popper; Liberty Launcher; Black Box; Tomislav; Pomson; Backburner; Croc-o-style set; Equalizer; Enforcer; Machina; Spycicle; And basically anything else people use to kill him. Is there something about 2Fort that attracts racists? Mar 22, 2012 9:01:34 pm Please kill that camping kike Mar 22, 2012 9:01:45 pm Dead Mar 22, 2012 9:01:51 pm Like the jew he is Mar 26, 2012 12:09:10 am SHUT IT YOU CHINAMAN Mar 26, 2012 2:01:29 pm I just hate kike's like this guy Mar 26, 2012 2:02:06 pm Stop stealing American jobs you Mexican Mar 26, 2012 2:02:56 pm You cheered in the streets with all your Muslim friends Mar 26, 2012 2:02:40 pm You liked 9/11 Mar 26, 2012 2:04:28 pm I'd kill myself if I was a filthy jew Mar 26, 2012 2:05:05 pm You're just saying that because you're a filthy dirty Mexican Mar 26, 2012 5:43:30 pm Cool, they have a filthy jew camping their intel with stickies Adding cross-reference to other current complaint: http://forums.gaming...-barnabe-jones/ Other complaints: http://forums.gamingterritory.com/topic/16629-two-disrespectful-flaming-donators-barnaby-brenardo/ http://forums.gamingterritory.com/topic/13625-racism-in-chicago-2fort-server/ http://forums.gamingterritory.com/topic/14736-chicago-insta-spawn-2fort-server-6560322627015/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerberos 3,170 #17 Posted March 30, 2012 I've also noticed alot of racism on 2fort :S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nano 7,892 #18 Posted March 30, 2012 As mentioned in the other thread I already brought this to the attention of the staff, they are probably looking into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Cactus 4,948 #19 Posted March 30, 2012 *Comment moved to Server Admin Lounge.* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerberos 3,170 #20 Posted March 30, 2012 Racism has nothing to do with gaming. It had more to do with the internet providing you relative anonimity and you trusting that anonimity to speak your mind. A racist fuck on the internet is a frustrated racist in real life probably also homophobic. I actually find it interesting; I was on a server just now where a common word being used was "Nigger", I'd love to know why they hated a specific class of people enough to call them hurtful words. I find it ... uhh... interesting. But sad for them that their life got so low to hate a specific class at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Cactus 4,948 #21 Posted March 30, 2012 I actually find it interesting; I was on a server just now where a common word being used was "Nigger", I'd love to know why they hated a specific class of people enough to call them hurtful words. I find it ... uhh... interesting. But sad for them that their life got so low to hate a specific class at the same time. Can we take this discussion to the Admin Lounge? I have started a thread there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BabyEater 5 #22 Posted March 31, 2012 I made it clear in my admin application that there are never admins on the 2fort servers, however i play that server every day. I also mentioned in my donor privilege thread that there are constantly people being racist and flaming each other. I personally think someone needs to be there to keep it under control, atleast a few times daily it gets pretty crazy in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willerms 1,794 #23 Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) So an anti-semite and a racist homophobe? Are they able to speak like that because of the freedom of speech rule on our server? Then again, the slurs are directed at specific people making Barnaby seem like a massive douche-canoe. I thought that Barnaby could just be a mad thirteen year-old, given their actions, but the spelling isn't riddled with mistakes. From the text evidence I read on Cactus' comment, I think that this fellow is just some crazy lady who should learn to expand their vocabulary so they can stop making fun of the jews and start being more productive. Sucks that he needs to act like an angry cunt on our servers, sullying our innocent minds. Edited March 31, 2012 by Willerms 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerberos 3,170 #24 Posted March 31, 2012 I made it clear in my admin application that there are never admins on the 2fort servers depends which ones you are visiting, i'm a regular admin on 2fort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BabyEater 5 #25 Posted April 2, 2012 depends which ones you are visiting, i'm a regular admin on 2fort. Well i only play one, and it's the 24/7 instant spawn chicago 2fort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites