Asjo 90 #101 Posted October 20, 2012 I came onto the forums because I noticed that the stats page was down. Recently, I've been having a good deal of fun trying to get the top ranking in the axtinguisher, flare gun and rocket airblast kill rankings. So, I've been trying to kill more people with flare gun than usual, sometimes letting easy kills run away to make sure I got a flare kill. I have to admit I've been checking many times to see whether I had gone up another rank in the weapon rankings. So, I was a bit sad to see the stats go. At the same time, I'd be really curious about the current stats of some players. Some players have played for a long time, so their current stats don't reflect their current playing styles and trends. So, with a stats reset, and possible even more accurate stats, I'd be checking up on them to see how they do nowadays. Plus, if I stayed active, getting number one axtinguisher on Lotus would be easy Like many have mentioned, it's obvious that the ranking in the overall rank has no real significance, and thus the loss of such rank doesn't mean too much. Even on bad days, I more often get MVP # 1 than not, but rarely get many points for the rankings, while players who are more careful get a lot more. If I recall correctly, Awo was ranked second. What he does is that he places a mini-sentry in a position where it has a chance to randomly finish off or assist kills and then spams pomson around a corner. He shies away at the slightest hint of an opponent going after, hiding in spawn if he has to. If he switched to demo, he will sticky camp the grill on 2Fort, which is basically the most abusive thing you can do. From the looks of it, he's hardly more than average, and he's a terrible player to have on the server since he doens't really participate. He seems to simply to be there to get some points for his stats. The way he plays simply makes 2Fort less fun to play for people, since he's either constantly annoying pyros and scouts with random damage with mini-sentries or slowing down play with sticky camping. If an average player can make number two, that's very telling. For people who are purely motivated by the stats, I'm happy that the stats are reset. Instead, it's very interesting to follow which player has the most kills per minute, who has more airshot rockets, players extinguished and such, and I'm sad to lose all that data. I did think of the stats as a nice historical log of whatever has been done on the servers. I thought it was awesome to keep track of what others and myself had played as and which weapons had gotten more kills. That's why an annual reset would make me quite sad. The only reason I'd support this reset was if it in fact would mean stats would work better. However, have we considered whether GameMe is superior to HLstatsX is any way? One thing I noticed was that while the design of the current stats page is very pleasant, the few two sites of the Google search Mana linked looked horrible, and I wouldn't want to regularly visit those. They didn't really have the same overview either and seemingly has a somewhat slow loading time. Are there any stats that GameMe can log, which HLstatsX doesn't? I suppose this inquiry is too late, but as a very curious person who will check up on the stats of people, I would hate to miss out on interesting details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ovloV 0 #102 Posted October 20, 2012 Stats reset????!!!! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Now I can't show all the girls I hook up with my number 1 spot with my bow and arrows Bitches love Robin Hood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 3,867 #103 Posted October 20, 2012 New stats will be going up in an hour or two . I came onto the forums because I noticed that the stats page was down. Recently, I've been having a good deal of fun trying to get the top ranking in the axtinguisher, flare gun and rocket airblast kill rankings. So, I've been trying to kill more people with flare gun than usual, sometimes letting easy kills run away to make sure I got a flare kill. I have to admit I've been checking many times to see whether I had gone up another rank in the weapon rankings. So, I was a bit sad to see the stats go. At the same time, I'd be really curious about the current stats of some players. Some players have played for a long time, so their current stats don't reflect their current playing styles and trends. So, with a stats reset, and possible even more accurate stats, I'd be checking up on them to see how they do nowadays. Plus, if I stayed active, getting number one axtinguisher on Lotus would be easy Like many have mentioned, it's obvious that the ranking in the overall rank has no real significance, and thus the loss of such rank doesn't mean too much. Even on bad days, I more often get MVP # 1 than not, but rarely get many points for the rankings, while players who are more careful get a lot more. If I recall correctly, Awo was ranked second. What he does is that he places a mini-sentry in a position where it has a chance to randomly finish off or assist kills and then spams pomson around a corner. He shies away at the slightest hint of an opponent going after, hiding in spawn if he has to. If he switched to demo, he will sticky camp the grill on 2Fort, which is basically the most abusive thing you can do. From the looks of it, he's hardly more than average, and he's a terrible player to have on the server since he doens't really participate. He seems to simply to be there to get some points for his stats. The way he plays simply makes 2Fort less fun to play for people, since he's either constantly annoying pyros and scouts with random damage with mini-sentries or slowing down play with sticky camping. If an average player can make number two, that's very telling. For people who are purely motivated by the stats, I'm happy that the stats are reset. Instead, it's very interesting to follow which player has the most kills per minute, who has more airshot rockets, players extinguished and such, and I'm sad to lose all that data. I did think of the stats as a nice historical log of whatever has been done on the servers. I thought it was awesome to keep track of what others and myself had played as and which weapons had gotten more kills. That's why an annual reset would make me quite sad. The only reason I'd support this reset was if it in fact would mean stats would work better. However, have we considered whether GameMe is superior to HLstatsX is any way? One thing I noticed was that while the design of the current stats page is very pleasant, the few two sites of the Google search Mana linked looked horrible, and I wouldn't want to regularly visit those. They didn't really have the same overview either and seemingly has a somewhat slow loading time. Are there any stats that GameMe can log, which HLstatsX doesn't? I suppose this inquiry is too late, but as a very curious person who will check up on the stats of people, I would hate to miss out on interesting details. You and others will be able to see how the next stats work. We still have 12 days to during which we can go back to old stats if for some reason the new ones don't work out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Mike - 2,728 #104 Posted October 20, 2012 Now it will be time for tryhard.com gotta go big do my rockets taste like wheaties?! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harlequin 2,975 #105 Posted October 20, 2012 well yeah, the update is done? what's the new URL to search players, check server activitys and so on? If it's active, best to switch the URL from the Lotus-Start-Page :-) looking forward for the new system. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 3,867 #106 Posted October 20, 2012 well yeah, the update is done? what's the new URL to search players, check server activitys and so on? If it's active, best to switch the URL from the Lotus-Start-Page :-) looking forward for the new system. The URL will be the same. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Mike - 2,728 #107 Posted October 20, 2012 They have indeed reset, but have not be updated yet on the database to look at. Should be good to see when it does get around to that. Till then, we wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sphagnum Peat Moss 748 #108 Posted October 20, 2012 It's just stats. Nobody's putting them on a resume, so who cares? Reset away! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Literally Ambersome 3 #109 Posted October 21, 2012 Could we still have a kad ratio stats somewhere? Since medics players don't get much of a good kd ratio. Thanks in advance. =) Edit: Also, just noticed it doesn't show the number of assists at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 3,867 #110 Posted October 21, 2012 Could we still have a kad ratio stats somewhere? Since medics players don't get much of a good kd ratio. Thanks in advance. =) Edit: Also, just noticed it doesn't show the number of assists at all. It does. But I will edit it so it shows it right on the profile page. For now just click "Teams & Actions". 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rip. 16 #111 Posted October 21, 2012 I'm glad the reset went through, if anyone was highly ranked before then they will most likely rank just as high after the reset. Did the other stat system reward building sentries like this new one does? Because IMO its extremely stupid. On my stats page it shows: Headshot kills = 164 times = 328 points Godlike (12+ kills) = 9 times = 99 points Built a mini sentry = 157 times = 471 points Looks like its more efficient to just spam sentries instead of kill the other team. Building a sentry (any of them) shouldn't give any points at all. It takes far more skill to land those headshot kills than it does to drop a mini sentry infront of the enemy team, run away and build another 2 seconds later. Points should be given for the kills that the sentry gets but not the building. /rant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Mike - 2,728 #112 Posted October 21, 2012 I believe you lose points if the sentry is destroyed though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rip. 16 #113 Posted October 21, 2012 I believe you lose points if the sentry is destroyed though. That doesn't seem to be the case if you look at the event log. The only time it shows a point loss is when you destroy it yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seraphinianus 6 #114 Posted October 21, 2012 Also, it looks like the class ranking page ranks only based on kills. This also sucks for medics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Cactus 4,948 #115 Posted October 21, 2012 That doesn't seem to be the case if you look at the event log. The only time it shows a point loss is when you destroy it yourself. You also lose points if they are destroyed at the end of the round. You only get points if an enemy destroys them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Se7en 10,762 #116 Posted October 21, 2012 Oh man, just when I reached top spot for most kills on x33 ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nano 7,892 #117 Posted October 21, 2012 What an unexpected burden lifted! Enjoying TF2 even more now that I don't have stats to think about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xlotus 0 #118 Posted October 23, 2012 no old archive? no hall of fame? no heads up? oh look there is a squirrel and the hard work thats being flushed down the toilet without a trace like something you'd do to a bad relationship! what a nice way to set precedence, ill be looking forward to new stats accuracy so that their'll be something more meaningful in the future whirlpool, "looks like we wouldnt be needing plungers too, boys!!!" ...this shit goes down easy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nano 7,892 #119 Posted October 23, 2012 no old archive? no hall of fame? no heads up? oh look there is a squirrel and the hard work thats being flushed down the toilet without a trace like something you'd do to a bad relationship! what a nice way to set precedence, ill be looking forward to new stats accuracy so that their'll be something more meaningful in the future whirlpool, "looks like we wouldnt be needing plungers too, boys!!!" ...this shit goes down easy... You should look at the date of the OP and the votes that were put up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dr. Obvious 14,606 #120 Posted October 23, 2012 no old archive? no hall of fame? no heads up? oh look there is a squirrel and the hard work thats being flushed down the toilet without a trace like something you'd do to a bad relationship! what a nice way to set precedence, ill be looking forward to new stats accuracy so that their'll be something more meaningful in the future whirlpool, "looks like we wouldnt be needing plungers too, boys!!!" ...this shit goes down easy... ...not sure if wants to troll, or unable to read... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 3,867 #121 Posted October 24, 2012 Now let's continue this discussion here in the announcement thread: http://forums.gamingterritory.com/topic/21238-stats-reset/#entry142989 no old archive? no hall of fame? no heads up? oh look there is a squirrel and the hard work thats being flushed down the toilet without a trace like something you'd do to a bad relationship! what a nice way to set precedence, ill be looking forward to new stats accuracy so that their'll be something more meaningful in the future whirlpool, "looks like we wouldnt be needing plungers too, boys!!!" ...this shit goes down easy... Yes there was a heads up. As well as a vote. All started on 30 September 2012. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites