Steamrep Wtf ?

[Marcel the Shell 403]

Just a little rant about the witch hunters over at SteamRep, this weekend the super sleuths who are more concerned with playing dress-up then killing peeps, marked me as a suspected scammer alt.

http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198041464872

Whats unbelievable to me is that all this was done without one iota of evidence or discussion. As some of you might know I have some valuable items in my bp, I keep my bp private in order to deter hackers and scammers.

Somehow some over zealous admin has decided that I am a potential threat and has therefore marked me. Look at all that gleaming evidence !

What shocks me even more is that I now have to prove my innocence to these idiots. Why is it my responsibility to prove myself to them when they have wrongfully accused me of something that has no proof?

Furthermore, they did not contact me to to discuss this accusation. You would think branding someone as a scammer alt with 1400+ hours in TF2 would require some proof. I could understand if I had 0-20 hrs in TF2, but seriously why would anyone have 1400+ hours on a scammer alt acct ?

This to me is a great example of letting some admins on a witch hunt. All of this could have been prevented with a simple discussion between the admins and myself before this had happened. but instead SteamRep has decided to rule 'guilty' without any valid evidence or contacting the accused. I had to find out from a trader friend of mine who checks SteamRep occasionally, wouldn't I be entitled to a note or msg from SteamRep ?

I have lost all respect for SteamRep and the admins that serve them.

Thanks for letting me rant

[Rurumie 306]

ill say it like this...

weither you have 1 hour or 2000000 hours, doesn't change the fact. that the chance the person is a scammer or not, is about the same. it's about the same for hackers. do they care how many hours they used on the game, before they started hacking?. no.

1 way or another. i'm not going to say you scam or not. but i'd suggest poking them as hell, until they actually give a proper explenation / fix what they did.

(personal note from me, who the hell cares about steamrep anyway?.. i've never used it and never will)

[- Mike - 2,728]

Furthermore, they did not contact me to to discuss this accusation.

They do a good shoot first, ask questions later routine.

[Krash 1,040]

So much of the trade scene got corrupted and bitter. I really enjoyed playing into the mann-conomy back in the day but theres so many items now and it all practically revolves around earbuds, bills hats, and rabbit ears (or whatever).

Especially when half the time you get someone who wont barter with you and tlks lk dis, k?

But yeah fuck those faggots at steam rep.

[Possum 10,776]

So much of the trade scene got corrupted and bitter. I really enjoyed playing into the mann-conomy back in the day but theres so many items now and it all practically revolves around earbuds, bills hats, and rabbit ears (or whatever).

Especially when half the time you get someone who wont barter with you and tlks lk dis, k?

But yeah fuck those faggots at steam rep.

......aaand this is why I generally avoid trading.

[Vaginal Hubris 2,659]

Whoa. What the fuck? Usually they have a link to the evidence or whatever, but on yours they don't?

[Ollie 56]

TF2 trading economy is without a doubt the biggest pile shite, from my perspective.

Loved the days of you crafting a hat, and swapping it for another with a player no questions asked. Now I have randoms harassing and adding for bills hats.

[Barbaro 466]

Just a little rant about the witch hunters over at SteamRep, this weekend the super sleuths who are more concerned with playing dress-up then killing peeps, marked me as a suspected scammer alt.

http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198041464872

Whats unbelievable to me is that all this was done without one iota of evidence or discussion. As some of you might know I have some valuable items in my bp, I keep my bp private in order to deter hackers and scammers.

Somehow some over zealous admin has decided that I am a potential threat and has therefore marked me. Look at all that gleaming evidence !

What shocks me even more is that I now have to prove my innocence to these idiots. Why is it my responsibility to prove myself to them when they have wrongfully accused me of something that has no proof?

Furthermore, they did not contact me to to discuss this accusation. You would think branding someone as a scammer alt with 1400+ hours in TF2 would require some proof. I could understand if I had 0-20 hrs in TF2, but seriously why would anyone have 1400+ hours on a scammer alt acct ?

This to me is a great example of letting some admins on a witch hunt. All of this could have been prevented with a simple discussion between the admins and myself before this had happened. but instead SteamRep has decided to rule 'guilty' without any valid evidence or contacting the accused. I had to find out from a trader friend of mine who checks SteamRep occasionally, wouldn't I be entitled to a note or msg from SteamRep ?

I have lost all respect for SteamRep and the admins that serve them.

Thanks for letting me rant

Strange indeed that there's no results for your SteamID nor the 64 version...I'll see if I can find some answers, chances are, an investigation was done and concluded in SR or by an affiliate *Probably FailOP*, and your ID was marked as you might have been associated with a scammer. There's a good enough reason if you bothered to check your friend's reputation, as two are marked by SOP as Scammers...and one of them got a Trade Ban from Valve.

1st

|steamID: Meepo11

|steamID32: STEAM_0:0:57666581

|steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198075598890

|customURL:

|steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198075598890

2nd

|steamID: darkness-07 ☢ [uKGT]

|steamID32: STEAM_0:1:23180189

|steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198006626107

|customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/harrytheboywholovessandviches

|steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198006626107

3rd

|steamID: "HappyParazit" LF god tir burnig

|steamID32: STEAM_0:0:34008359

|steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028282446

|customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/chuvak_v_shtanax

|steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198028282446

Your first step to possibly fight that tag would be removing all three from your friends list. I'll.....see if I can find some info tomorrow morning...or perhaps one of the SR peeps will post on your thread, just sit tight and be patient, there's only so many of them. There's nothing in the recent bans that I can view that has your ID on it, perhaps it's related to one of the three persons I posted above...or the fact that your backpack is now private and makes the ideal opportunity for 'friends' to stash scammed items inside with no way of tracking as the item ID that's generated at places such as TF2 Backpack, would be deleted...

http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561198041464872

Try making it public and show you got nothing to hide. Making it private doesn't deter hackers nor scammers, it never will, instead, it opens it to possible accusations that you could be holding items from a marked scammer while they're in the process of creating more Alternative Accounts. If you're afraid of being 'hacked', which is laughable, try setting your steam to use a Google Email with 2 Step verification, which will lock out the account if one step isn't completed.

*Also could be something that I'm not allowed to view...privileges are a pain. D:* Good luck with the appeal!

TF2 trading economy is without a doubt the biggest pile shite, from my perspective.

Loved the days of you crafting a hat, and swapping it for another with a player no questions asked. Now I have randoms harassing and adding for bills hats.

The day people decided to break the Steam and Valve Terms of Service and this -> http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/ was the day that the Mannconomy turned into a Cash Cow for idiots with nothing better to do than waste money on virtual items...who the fuck pays 1 Grand for a stupid hat that isn't even real? O.o

Edited December 11, 2012 by Dark Valkyria

[Rurumie 306]

who the fuck pays 1 Grand for a stupid hat that isn't even real? O.o

i do.. mostly to support the games, if its a "free to play". aka like games such as pwi, boi, ms, etc.

usually they make a game which is 100% free and gives you possibility to buy stuff, which last for x amount of time and allows you to support them for making the game to begin with.

it's like asking "who the hell wants to play WoW, if all you pay for is access" or "who the hell would want to pay for a game, you hardly would play anyway"

either way. im fine with it. so i don't have an issue in that part \o/..

beside. they need to make money somehow, to keep running. else they would be shut off and the game would go down eventually then.(mostly referred to f2p mmorpg, which has an income on virtual items / shops).

[Marcel the Shell 403]

Strange indeed that there's no results for your SteamID nor the 64 version...I'll see if I can find some answers, chances are, an investigation was done and concluded in SR or by an affiliate *Probably FailOP*, and your ID was marked as you might have been associated with a scammer. There's a good enough reason if you bothered to check your friend's reputation, as two are marked by SOP as Scammers...and one of them got a Trade Ban from Valve.

1st

|steamID: Meepo11

|steamID32: STEAM_0:0:57666581

|steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198075598890

|customURL:

|steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198075598890

2nd

|steamID: darkness-07 ☢ [uKGT]

|steamID32: STEAM_0:1:23180189

|steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198006626107

|customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/harrytheboywholovessandviches

|steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198006626107

3rd

|steamID: "HappyParazit" LF god tir burnig

|steamID32: STEAM_0:0:34008359

|steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028282446

|customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/chuvak_v_shtanax

|steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198028282446

Your first step to possibly fight that tag would be removing all three from your friends list. I'll.....see if I can find some info tomorrow morning...or perhaps one of the SR peeps will post on your thread, just sit tight and be patient, there's only so many of them. There's nothing in the recent bans that I can view that has your ID on it, perhaps it's related to one of the three persons I posted above...or the fact that your backpack is now private and makes the ideal opportunity for 'friends' to stash scammed items inside with no way of tracking as the item ID that's generated at places such as TF2 Backpack, would be deleted...

http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561198041464872

Try making it public and show you got nothing to hide. Making it private doesn't deter hackers nor scammers, it never will, instead, it opens it to possible accusations that you could be holding items from a marked scammer while they're in the process of creating more Alternative Accounts. If you're afraid of being 'hacked', which is laughable, try setting your steam to use a Google Email with 2 Step verification, which will lock out the account if one step isn't completed.

*Also could be something that I'm not allowed to view...privileges are a pain. D:* Good luck with the appeal!

The day people decided to break the Steam and Valve Terms of Service and this -> http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/ was the day that the Mannconomy turned into a Cash Cow for idiots with nothing better to do than waste money on virtual items...who the fuck pays 1 Grand for a stupid hat that isn't even real? O.o

Thanks for taking the time DV .

Had a long chat with Mattie last night about this, it should be resolved in a few days.

They do a good shoot first, ask questions later routine.

That is what I dislike about the situation.

[Krash 1,040]

Lol, remember that guy who made the prices spread list who totally put whatever he wanted and altered the whole economy....totally legit business. Everyone went by that list.....

[zzzTNTzzz 18]

i think one of the rules is that you cant have a hidden back pack, alot of rep sites dont want you to have it hidden and will ban or block or what ever they do ,,,, i get your frustration tho.

[Barbaro 466]

i do.. mostly to support the games, if its a "free to play". aka like games such as pwi, boi, ms, etc.

usually they make a game which is 100% free and gives you possibility to buy stuff, which last for x amount of time and allows you to support them for making the game to begin with.

it's like asking "who the hell wants to play WoW, if all you pay for is access" or "who the hell would want to pay for a game, you hardly would play anyway"

either way. im fine with it. so i don't have an issue in that part \o/..

beside. they need to make money somehow, to keep running. else they would be shut off and the game would go down eventually then.(mostly referred to f2p mmorpg, which has an income on virtual items / shops).

Except, except...that money isn't going to Valve, it's going to the seller. ಠ_ಠ Then you got about a thousand keys that were purchased fraudulently, or you didn't hear? http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/today-i-discovered-that-there-are-tons-of-keys-with-doubtful-origin-injecting-into-the-market.14096/ The FBI's gonna have a field day with this Credit Card Fraud...

You could be right...but with people constantly making bad decisions and Feds getting involved...yeah. Dunno, but I can sorta agree with you Rhythm but when I think about it too much, my head hurts.

Thanks for taking the time DV .

Had a long chat with Mattie last night about this, it should be resolved in a few days.

That is what I dislike about the situation.

I heard, hope things are taken out in a timely fashion, just curious as to who fired that flare on you, there were two massive investigations done by the DGN, which resulted in over 40 or something people being marked for fake reputation/alt of scammers/Scammer accomplices, I did not see a single connection from them to LotusClan or any members/recruits, had I seen something, I'd probably shoot Mana/Pro/someone an e-mail about it before you have angry traders starting a shitstorm here, and some communities, such as OP, are always on the prowl for Scammer Alts/Accomplices.

Lol, remember that guy who made the prices spread list who totally put whatever he wanted and altered the whole economy....totally legit business. Everyone went by that list.....

That's still pending, everyone who goes by it as if set in stone is an idiot. It's a guide and always has been. http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/tf2-spreadsheet-scandal.9913/ & http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561197986567122-smokedgouda001-and-76561198037908684-stf2-updated.9825/

i think one of the rules is that you cant have a hidden back pack, alot of rep sites dont want you to have it hidden and will ban or block or what ever they do ,,,, i get your frustration tho.

That's because it opens it up to a breeding ground for marked accounts to dump their merchandise in a 'legitimate' account and then re-claim at a later date, or simply lose the items while Steam places a Trade Ban. It's just much too prone to those kinds of accusations and even approved cases where the private backpack holder is marked as an accomplice or possible Alt. There's just no way around it, really no reason for it to be private either, if that were the case, Valve Employees would have theirs private wouldn't they? Making an account private, there's legitimate and acceptable reasons for that one, but it then falls back to traders who are buying/selling items for money...and thus begins the same old argument.

If you're trading for monies or any kind of currency, Inventory must remain Public at all times, regardless of Profile Privacy, otherwise, accusations will be fired off, just like that Potato no-life in the Reddit post.

[Rurumie 306]

Except, except...that money isn't going to Valve, it's going to the seller. ಠ_ಠ Then you got about a thousand keys that were purchased fraudulently, or you didn't hear? http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/today-i-discovered-that-there-are-tons-of-keys-with-doubtful-origin-injecting-into-the-market.14096/ The FBI's gonna have a field day with this Credit Card Fraud...

well. idc who it went to, if it were to keep the game alive. if nobody really bought anything, how would a game even survive. if you just downloaded the game and never really bothered buying anything from them, would that be enough ?. no.

it's kinda logic. for games to survive nowadays, they have to make a profit somewhere.

[Harlequin 2,975]

I just don't get why key prices are identically in pounds, dollars and euros.... But I agree.

[Barbaro 466]

well. idc who it went to, if it were to keep the game alive. if nobody really bought anything, how would a game even survive. if you just downloaded the game and never really bothered buying anything from them, would that be enough ?. no.

it's kinda logic. for games to survive nowadays, they have to make a profit somewhere.

Ironically and coicidentally, the Market launched today.

http://steamcommunity.com/market/

Now that's something.

I just don't get why key prices are identically in pounds, dollars and euros.... But I agree.

Because some people are derps...I still like to sell/buy/trade keys to/from you. XD

[Rurumie 306]

Ironically and coicidentally, the Market launched today.

http://steamcommunity.com/market/

ok. not gonna check what that is, and whatever theres in there. can't be bothered tbh.

[Barbaro 466]

ok. not gonna check what that is, and whatever theres in there. can't be bothered tbh.

Ya don't have to be a dick about it. However it defiantly provides Valve with some of the Cash Cows that have not been 'milked'.

[Harlequin 2,975]

few days have passed, they changed nothing to your scammer tag it seems?

[Barbaro 466]

few days have passed, they changed nothing to your scammer tag it seems?

Either communication with Marcel and SR broke down...or something else is going on, I still see nothing on forums or any reports there of.

Backpack's still private though...derp.