Please Make Me Immune To Cheating Voteban

[naknak 4]

My great skill makes people cry, twice in as many days

STEAM_0:0:4548848

thx

[Possum 10,776]

http://forums.gamingterritory.com/topic/12618-votebans-are-not-permanent/

Learn to read, kthxbye.

[the fat chick thriller 0]

This is his personal pocket medic, and I second this motion.

http://forums.gamingterritory.com/topic/12618-votebans-are-not-permanent/

Learn to read, kthxbye.

Can you make him immune to temp bans then?

[Kitten 1,813]

What happened to Brunnen?

[HeadSh0tBrent 2,156]

[Ruby 9,039]

If there's an unfair voteban being conducted by a donator repeatedly, make a demo and report it to us, or use !calladmin. Otherwise, there's not much we can do.

[naknak 4]

If there's an unfair voteban being conducted by a donator repeatedly, make a demo and report it to us, or use !calladmin. Otherwise, there's not much we can do.

A demo of what? I see a vote box pop up and 3 seconds later I'm banned. You want a demo of the TF2 welcome screen?

The accusation was "speed reload hacking" (as sticky demo). I could make a demo of me googling "speed reload hacking" to learn that it does not exist. Would that help?

Here's the guy responsible, apparently he has a clear history of mental instability: http://forums.gamingterritory.com/topic/22029-unban-request-worst-sniper-ever/ Happened on Harvest server just before my post, and not the first time he's attempted it (the one yesterday was someone else).

It's your server, that you administer, you have logs, do some administration.

[Ruby 9,039]

A demo of what? I see a vote box pop up and 3 seconds later I'm banned. You want a demo of the TF2 welcome screen?

The accusation was "speed reload hacking" (as sticky demo). I could make a demo of me googling "speed reload hacking" to learn that it does not exist. Would that help?

Here's the guy responsible, apparently he has a clear history of mental instability: http://forums.gamingterritory.com/topic/22029-unban-request-worst-sniper-ever/ Happened on Harvest server just before my post, and not the first time he's attempted it (the one yesterday was someone else).

It's your server, that you administer, you have logs, do some administration.

First, I'm gonna have to ask you to drop the attitude a little bit. I'm not your little bitch, I am here to try and help you and I do not respond well to people being assholes towards me.

Second, it is not my server - I don't own it, I am an administrator. The only person who can fill your request here is Mana, and the only persons with voteban immunity so far are our global admins and staff.

Third, it does not need to be a demo, just take a screenshot of the console and/or give us the steam ID of persons initiating the vote. In case the vote is being repeatedly initiated by a donator, we can do something about it. The thing you are asking for does not exist as such in our system unless we make you a global administrator. You understand we can't ban based on hear-say, and what am I asking for is a simple piece of evidence that a donator abused their privileges.

We can not influence behavior which is not conducted by our donators (such as 4 people typing "voteban" in chat and selecting you, and then over 70% of the server voting to ban you). I'm sorry, but democracy.

[IceSage 58]

My apologizes if you're flustered. The server was whining about you constantly and thought you were hacking. So I put up the voteban clearly marked what the people were voting for. It went through.

Honestly though, the YES to NO ratio was nose to nose, and from the way the votes were it looked like it shouldn't have gone through, but it did. (I think Mana adjusted it to make votebans WAY too easy?)

I want to make it clear there was no malice on my part, I just simply typed up the vote so people didn't have to keep spamming "votekick/voteban" over and over again. (And from what I saw in the chatbox, people were doing it improperly.)

Though, the fact that you were voted off multiple times for days in a row and the fact that people think you're hacking is a bit suspicious to be honest. However, in this case if you weren't hacking and you're just a massively good player who gets 7 domination and 400 points within the span of an hour or so, then don't worry about it.

If I play with you again, I won't be the one to initiate the vote.

Normally I spectate a player for like, a good 5 minutes before I toss up these votes by the way, however I'm not an admin, lotus member, or recruit... And my days of policing servers and posting demos have come to a halt recently. I'd rather be playing the round and let the server decide what to do rather than stop enjoying myself for 10 minutes trying to determine hackers.

If I had known the voteban % ratio was adjusted like this, I probably wouldn't have even bothered. Sorry for the trouble.

If anyone thinks my tossing up the vote was unwarranted, go ahead and do whatever. I wasn't trying to grief or cause trouble. Just tossing up a normal vote after seeing people whine about you.

Here's the guy responsible, apparently he has a clear history of mental instability: http://forums.gamingterritory.com/topic/22029-unban-request-worst-sniper-ever/ Happened on Harvest server just before my post, and not the first time he's attempted it (the one yesterday was someone else).

That was a completely unrelated incident where I was screaming on microphone one day and it was recorded in a demo I posted on the forums trying to report a well respected donator for something and I was 100% in the wrong. I was permabanned first offense with no warning. I've always had a clean history on Lotus. The only time people have a problem with me is usually when people are doing something wrong and I report them. I've had a long past of always carefully taking the time out of my day to record a demo of someone hacking / griefing and posting it on the forums.

Again, I'd like to point out the whole server was trying to ban you. Just not me. I was simply the guy who can easily at the flick of some typing have the menu pop up.

(And since you said this has happened to you multiple times before on days I haven't played or seen you before and other players are putting votes against you too, is evidence enough that other players seem to have a problem with this guy / think it's suspicious.)

[-Tristan- 948]

Quit abusing donator privileges IceSage. This isn't the first time you've put up unnecessary and obviously unwarranted votebans. I've received at least 3 complaints about you, and I'm sure there are many more instances that don't get mentioned to me.

[naknak 4]

First, I'm gonna have to ask you to drop the attitude a little bit. I'm not your little bitch, I am here to try and help you and I do not respond well to people being assholes towards me.

You're right. My attitude was soured by the chromosomal defects who posted before you, and you did not deserve it. I'm sorry.

it does not need to be a demo, just .../or give us the steam ID of persons initiating the vote.

| steamname: Wrost. Snpier. Eevr.

| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:18655445

| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197997576618

| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/icesage

Let me know if you need anything else!

Though, the fact that you were voted off multiple times for days in a row and the fact that people think you're hacking is a bit suspicious to be honest. However, in this case if you weren't hacking and you're just a massively good player who gets 7 domination and 400 points within the span of an hour or so, then don't worry about it.

lol @ scrub. Here's who I am:

SourceOP, top 0.05%:

Prestige, top 0.005%:

3 seasons of UGC, my teams had winning records in all of them:

http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561197969363424

2.1 KA:D in 200 lobbies:

http://www.tf2lobby.com/profile?id=45172

5k hours tf2, 2k hours demoman:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/_naknak_/stats/TF2

#44 on bp.tf with toplist with valuation over $10k -- relevant, because VAC ban = lose all your items. Every time I play, I'm guaranteeing a fair fight with ten grand of my own money.

http://backpack.tf/top/backpacks

And, just by the way the cheat you accused me does not exist.

Normally I spectate a player for like, a good 5 minutes before I toss up these votes by the way, however I'm not an admin, lotus member, or recruit... And my days of policing servers and posting demos have come to a halt recently. I'd rather be playing the round and let the server decide what to do rather than stop enjoying myself for 10 minutes trying to determine hackers.

Funny, because speccing me is exactly what you did last time. Care to link us to the demo you recorded then? Oh, wait, you never posted it. Because it didn't show "speed reload hacking" or anything else.

I won't address the rest of your bullshit "non-instigator" / "going with the flow" claims. The chat logs will clearly refute those.

[Kitten 1,813]

I can attest to naknak being a pretty good (nonhacking) demo.

So how about IceSage refrains from initiating any more votekicks/bans against him and we all play some video games. =)

[naknak 4]

My great skill makes people cry, twice in as many days

This attitude makes me want to ban you for longer.

It was a 100% factually correct description of what took place. Banning me for longer won't stop your servers from turning into saigins.de.

You can run servers where good players can play, or you can pander to donators and create a comfy hothouse for them to misjudge their own ability. Can't do both. Choose up, chumpy.

[Ruby 9,039]

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While IceSage is not the one to police our servers (use !calladmin, record a demo) since he is not an administrator, I hardly believe what he did was in malicious intent. In the end, Staff will have the final word on whether this constitutes as donator abuse or not.

It was a 100% factually correct description of what took place. Banning me for longer won't stop your servers from turning into saigins.de.

You can run servers where good players can play, or you can pander to donators and create a comfy hothouse for them to misjudge their own ability. Can't do both. Choose up, chumpy.

We did not ban you. And please do not call our staff members "chumpies".

[Possum 10,776]

You can be a good player without being a dick about it. Tone the attitude down, then we might respond more positively towards you.

Nothing more to say here, lock please?

[IceSage 58]

lol @ scrub. Here's who I am:

SourceOP, top 0.05%:

Prestige, top 0.005%:

3 seasons of UGC, my teams had winning records in all of them:

http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561197969363424

2.1 KA:D in 200 lobbies:

http://www.tf2lobby.com/profile?id=45172

5k hours tf2, 2k hours demoman:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/_naknak_/stats/TF2

#44 on bp.tf with toplist with valuation over $10k -- relevant, because VAC ban = lose all your items. Every time I play, I'm guaranteeing a fair fight with ten grand of my own money.

http://backpack.tf/top/backpacks

And, just by the way the cheat you accused me does not exist.

Funny, because speccing me is exactly what you did last time. Care to link us to the demo you recorded then? Oh, wait, you never posted it. Because it didn't show "speed reload hacking" or anything else.

I won't address the rest of your bullshit "non-instigator" / "going with the flow" claims. The chat logs will clearly refute those.

So I pretty much apologize to you for me just initiating a vote. (Which, the whole server was doing to you, not just me.) And you've been voted off in days past by other people. (Not me.) And still you're trash talking (me and) the server that you want to play on. Fun fact, you don't have to be a donator to kick someone, as evidenced by the fact that people have banned / kicked you in the past?

Congratulations, you're good. Massively so pro that people think you're a cheater. Well done.

Maybe it's your attitude and sense of self-entitlement that's getting you removed so much?

Also, the reason I put in the ban is what people were accusing you of doing. I don't study hackology so if you were hacking, I apologize for not getting the technical term for it correct. (But since you weren't, then there's no real term for what you were doing, was there? Because you're not doing anything wrong.)

Sorry for rustling your jimmies by the fact that the vote (which the majority of players, not just myself, pressed and requested) (In my opinion unfairly) went through.

[naknak 4]

learn2read plzkthxbye

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You can be a good player without being a dick about it. Tone the attitude down, then we might respond more positively towards you.

Who's being a dick here? Rhetorical question, the answer is you. Can't take it, don't give it. Or were you upset by me laying claim to great skill? Because I think it was a fair statement.

While IceSage is not the one to police our servers (use !calladmin, record a demo) since he is not an administrator, I hardly believe what he did was in malicious intent....

We did not ban you. And please do not call our staff members "chumpies".

I didn't say you banned me. I said my great skill was making people cry, and that you are pandering to donators.

And if mr "BAN U LONGER" don't like being called chumpy, well, maybe he should do away with his stupid, coy little threats.

[Ruby 9,039]

Who's being a dick here? Rhetorical question, the answer is you. Can't take it, don't give it. Or were you upset by me laying claim to great skill? Because I think it was a fair statement.

I didn't say you banned me. I said my great skill was making people cry, and that you are pandering to donators.

And if mr "BAN U LONGER" don't like being called chumpy, well, maybe he should do away with his stupid, coy little threats.

Jesus fucking Christ. Get the fuck out of these forums before I permaban you from all of our servers for being a massive dick to all of us. If you want to report IceSage, use Ban Requests. If you want to get yourself unbanned, then say so. Votebans aren't permanent and don't make a thread about them. If you want us to stroke your cock because you did good in competitive, it won't happen.

[Nano 7,892]

Second, it is not my server - I don't own it, I am an administrator. The only person who can fill your request here is Mana, and the only persons with voteban immunity so far are our global admins and staff.

Actually all admins should have kick/ban immunity on their assigned servers. If someone sees otherwise, pm me. The vote would go through, but shouldn't actually do anything.

1 day ban to OP for admin harassment.

[No longer a Sexy King:^) 5,592]

You're a bit full of yourself when it comes to tf2.