Burning With Smoke Bombs This Cheat Or No ?

[{LB}-DunKing___ 0]

ok i called u a fucking noob and an idiot... ru gonna cry now?

haha people are so brave here in this forums

i really want to know if u would be so brave in real live u bastard

[{Dark}WolfBite 2]

id love to...nothing but action speaks louder than words.

[cptheslayer 2]

Let me make this clear.

I consider cheats as something that can be ontained from nonsense and also something that you do secretely to gain advantage over your opponents. Bugs sometimes happen; we cannot control that sometimes; Bug users can use bug always? I dont know about that.

Now, "Where there is smoke, there is Fire." And the Smoke attack cursor is gold. that means its attack damage type is if not entirely, partially fire. So if you argue that you cannot burn anythign with fire, then i have nothing to further trying to convince you that you live in a different world where fire cannot burn.

Another reason why smoke is ok to use: smoke is assumed to be legit skill. People use it; you use it. What is not fair about that? The only thing that is not fair is that you have inferior skills of using smoking or just plainly you cannot handle smokes.

Now, if serpent v serpent, no smoke is allowed, that is a fair game. So as long as an agreement is made, it is all fair game. Otherwise, anything goes but cheats that makes the game not fair. An eye for an eye, a longtooth for a long tooth; smoke for smoke. Tell me why this is not fair.

Lighty has a good point about DC and smoke. I think DC is worse than smoke becaues DC is not suppose to block other attack besides projectile. In contrast, smoke at least does a little fire damage. That is why it burns buildings.

I understand that some players do not like smokes or ID due to some reasons. They say that they are abuses; but i say there is no such word abuse in BR. How come you can make 20 Fire arrow and I cannot make 20 smokes? How come you can make 10 sc and i cannot make 10 snipers? how come you can make 20 sams and I cannot make 20 zerkers? It is a part of the strategy. You can train all 40 units of same type. It is legit. Why limit what we can do?

I hope you all understand what I have written. So know your opponents b4 you start the game. Make an agreement if you want to limit some skills. If not, then all I have said above is legit, at least for most players i play with. It is up to you to think what is fair or what is not because we all have different opinions about fairness. For me, as long as anything is available for both sides of opposition, then it is fair.

[Terry 0]

Let me make this clear.

I consider cheats as something that can be ontained from nonsense and also something that you do secretely to gain advantage over your opponents. Bugs sometimes happen; we cannot control that sometimes; Bug users can use bug always? I dont know about that.

Now, "Where there is smoke, there is Fire." And the Smoke attack cursor is gold. that means its attack damage type is if not entirely, partially fire. So if you argue that you cannot burn anythign with fire, then i have nothing to further trying to convince you that you live in a different world where fire cannot burn.

Another reason why smoke is ok to use: smoke is assumed to be legit skill. People use it; you use it. What is not fair about that? The only thing that is not fair is that you have inferior skills of using smoking or just plainly you cannot handle smokes.

Now, if serpent v serpent, no smoke is allowed, that is a fair game. So as long as an agreement is made, it is all fair game. Otherwise, anything goes but cheats that makes the game not fair. An eye for an eye, a longtooth for a long tooth; smoke for smoke. Tell me why this is not fair.

Lighty has a good point about DC and smoke. I think DC is worse than smoke becaues DC is not suppose to block other attack besides projectile. In contrast, smoke at least does a little fire damage. That is why it burns buildings.

I understand that some players do not like smokes or ID due to some reasons. They say that they are abuses; but i say there is no such word abuse in BR. How come you can make 20 Fire arrow and I cannot make 20 smokes? How come you can make 10 sc and i cannot make 10 snipers? how come you can make 20 sams and I cannot make 20 zerkers? It is a part of the strategy. You can train all 40 units of same type. It is legit. Why limit what we can do?

I hope you all understand what I have written. So know your opponents b4 you start the game. Make an agreement if you want to limit some skills. If not, then all I have said above is legit, at least for most players i play with. It is up to you to think what is fair or what is not because we all have different opinions about fairness. For me, as long as anything is available for both sides of opposition, then it is fair.

i agree from wht he say, smoke bombs is not a cheat, Only noobs dont kno how to use smoke quick that why they keep quiting

[Light 2]

Let me make this clear.

I consider cheats as something that can be ontained from nonsense and also something that you do secretely to gain advantage over your opponents. Bugs sometimes happen; we cannot control that sometimes; Bug users can use bug always? I dont know about that.

Now, "Where there is smoke, there is Fire." And the Smoke attack cursor is gold. that means its attack damage type is if not entirely, partially fire. So if you argue that you cannot burn anythign with fire, then i have nothing to further trying to convince you that you live in a different world where fire cannot burn.

Another reason why smoke is ok to use: smoke is assumed to be legit skill. People use it; you use it. What is not fair about that? The only thing that is not fair is that you have inferior skills of using smoking or just plainly you cannot handle smokes.

Now, if serpent v serpent, no smoke is allowed, that is a fair game. So as long as an agreement is made, it is all fair game. Otherwise, anything goes but cheats that makes the game not fair. An eye for an eye, a longtooth for a long tooth; smoke for smoke. Tell me why this is not fair.

Lighty has a good point about DC and smoke. I think DC is worse than smoke becaues DC is not suppose to block other attack besides projectile. In contrast, smoke at least does a little fire damage. That is why it burns buildings.

I understand that some players do not like smokes or ID due to some reasons. They say that they are abuses; but i say there is no such word abuse in BR. How come you can make 20 Fire arrow and I cannot make 20 smokes? How come you can make 10 sc and i cannot make 10 snipers? how come you can make 20 sams and I cannot make 20 zerkers? It is a part of the strategy. You can train all 40 units of same type. It is legit. Why limit what we can do?

I hope you all understand what I have written. So know your opponents b4 you start the game. Make an agreement if you want to limit some skills. If not, then all I have said above is legit, at least for most players i play with. It is up to you to think what is fair or what is not because we all have different opinions about fairness. For me, as long as anything is available for both sides of opposition, then it is fair.

Atlast someone is on my side, TY Cp

well another point which i wud like to raise is in 1v1 or 2v2 game, ppl say no id, now how to counter your snipes. if i dun id then u also dont make snipes, u will say make whirl but i say ur mugg will be there to counter them and anyways whirl lasts few secs and take long to recharge, so if the players want no id then the other player should also not make snipe or, other way is that we both make powerKeg and musk but we dont give them bg of long ran range so in this way the game can be balanced........

[reNekRoManT 3]

lol dont get bothered by that nekro, noobs say that crap wen they loose as they dont like to loose and want to prove everybody that they are good......

and that is not a bug or cheat,its a part of game

i remember once i played with this guy who said i press S to stop my units from getting attacked which is cheating....

lol what will u say to that....

thank you for your interpretation

what says on S ??? idk

i dont use S and forgot what this key doing

ok whoever says thats not a cheat is either a fucking noob or an idiot...

any mod related bug or game related bug exploited is A CHEAT and SHOULD not be done.

only noobs abuse and cheat.

AND YES SMOKE BURN IS MODDED

mayby i bad understood what u said

but want saysthis is a bug and cheat? and then imfucking noob ?

if so, then try play vs me and try to kill noob

So i understood wolfbite and rundom saying on me noob okay

this 2 older players than me

so lets play

and we will playing we will see who the fucking noob

maybe if u champion of tourney 2005 u think u again the best heheeheheh

all noobs says no id and others that who saying Abuser - suckers

i says never no id and abuse smokeand others

i can say just - free game

and why this abuse ?

if i want to destroy tower fast - this abuse LOL ??????????

then i must wait and destroying tower long times and my enemy kill me

lol NEVER

[{LB}-DunKing___ 0]

BAM!!!!!

[True CobraKhan 1]

I am not sure if I have totally understood.

Burn buildings using the Serpent cannon smoke bomb BG ?

I never tried that and it didn't occur to me to try but thanks I will give this a go. I don't see any harm in this.

I have read above and agree that it would not be a cheat. Maybe it wasn't an intention of liquid to enable burning using smoke but I think there are a lot of unintended uses of BG's in BR which is generally why a lot of old players no longer play (as you are all aware).

I personally think the game is balanced. There is not one person that plays that can exploit all the games bugs to the point that he/she would would win every game every time he/she played. Or is there ?

[{Dark}CoolGuy 1]

if you can do it burn building with smoke normal br its fine but if you can only burn it when you have modded br then its unfair (cheat) and yea what cp was saying is right but... abuse is when you have too strong of a bg and you make mass amount of it to win. that is abuse cause you are not playing fair. Because u can mass any unit and call it abuse but abuse is only applied to those bg that are too strong like sc, id, and smoke...i guess its that nowday players who got sick of losing back then started to abuse so they can win a game.

[Aphte 1]

honestly i could care less if i lost to something stupid like that...

cheating and bugging is doing anything that wasnt ORIGINALLY intended in the game.

burning with smoke is not its true ability and so dont exploit it...

it seems like the new generation promotes bugging and cheating ; none of the old players would.... i can guarantee u that.

yup

[{LB}-DunKing___ 0]

if it is a ug then the serpent towers bg would be a bug to cause it doesnt say that it throws enemys fromm horse

or flash powder , it only says it blinds enemy but it also weaks their shields

[cptheslayer 2]

if you can do it burn building with smoke normal br its fine but if you can only burn it when you have modded br then its unfair (cheat) and yea what cp was saying is right but... abuse is when you have too strong of a bg and you make mass amount of it to win. that is abuse cause you are not playing fair. Because u can mass any unit and call it abuse but abuse is only applied to those bg that are too strong like sc, id, and smoke...i guess its that nowday players who got sick of losing back then started to abuse so they can win a game.

i have to respect coolguy's opinion about abuse. however, in my opinion, you have freedom to choose clans you think is fair for each team. So it is your challenge to choose a weaker clan against a stronger clan. So, you have to accept the outcome of the game that results from your choice before game. If you think smoke is too strong BG, then why not use too strong BG against it? if there are no other too strong BG against smoke, why not choose serpent and make smokes against smokes? To tell you, a few smokes is not strong enough. But lots of smoke can be devastrating. But lots of smokes has weaknesses too. So learn to counter it instead of running from it. SC kills with one click. But that is if you can get close to your enemy. If you cannot get close, what can SC do? If you cannot stop SC, then why not learn to use SC against SC. Then it comes to the fastest user will win. And does that sound fair to you? This is like saying each opponent starts with 2 peasants at the same time fair? Well, of course it depends on how you play. Each warrior has it own unique skill.

If still dont know how to stop smoke or sc or any too strong BG, then take advantage of the too strong BG. Look for your enemy weaknesses, then exploit it. If this still does not work for you, then just be silent and think of how much fun you have. If you dont have fun by what you choose to play, then next time, think twice before you choose. If still not satisfied, then make what you so called "abuse" to fight against yoru enemy. If you dont like it, then BR is not right for you. If you know this and still want to play BR, then make sure what can be used in game and what cannot. If your opponent does not agree, then kick him or her and allow differnt players who agree to your terms.

I never limit my opponents' skills. I only limit my own abilities sometimes because I feel like doing so. Because i have fun by doing that sometimes. So let your game flows as you feel. For me, i know most players and how they like to play. For example, when i fight against wolfbite and coolguy, i dont really do what they call abuse becaue I assume that they dont do it either. So this is fair to me. But when i fight other teams that i know they use what coolguy calls "abuse"

, I use what I can. When i fight against playres who like to win only, i often put up a hard fight before losing. When i fight against good appreciative players, then i play my best to meet their expectations. I am not saying that I can win every game. Believe me, there are many players that are very good with BR. I have seen them play and seen how they kill my teams. I admire them.

Also, many players dont like to be called noobs. One question, who cares if you call me noob? Believe me, only want-to-be-good players call other players noobs to get the attention. How funny it is to see players get mad when called noobs. HOwever, good players who really know BR world dont really get mad. In fact, they take the insult as compliments. It is a different world, when good playres call other good playres noobs. That becomes a joke we all share. To most, it makes the playres feel very appreciated. That is why I say that there are only a few good players in BR world; most playres still need to understand more about BR world.

[reNekRoManT 3]

i don't care when my enemy in game use any abusing

if it going to winn it's okay , maybe not so funny, but ok

if you can do it burn building with smoke normal br its fine but if you can only burn it when you have modded br then its unfair (cheat) and yea what cp was saying is right but... abuse is when you have too strong of a bg and you make mass amount of it to win. that is abuse cause you are not playing fair. Because u can mass any unit and call it abuse but abuse is only applied to those bg that are too strong like sc, id, and smoke...i guess its that nowday players who got sick of losing back then started to abuse so they can win a game.

When somebody have modded br ??? lol guys , idk what is this

i mean burning in normal game

[{Dark}CoolGuy 1]

thats why i said if it can only happen because of modded br then its a cheat if its in normal br then its fine. before replying read the others post carefully and understand it... cause mostly likely they already answerd your question.

look at what i mean, if you make SC against any clan except lotus it rapes them if u abuse. And if you give SC hate and have like 10 of them no matter what army it is they wont get a chance to survive. Yea you can conter it with lotus but what fun is it when you dont like lotus and think its a cheap clan and you have to plan it because other person is massing really strong bg. Now its up to you to decide what is stong bg...

And cp i understand that if they make massive bg, you can do the samething back to them. I get that but all i was trying to say is make strong bg limited, because if you mass it, it takes the fun out of br.

[reNekRoManT 3]

yeah but wolfbite didnt cared this normal game or some more , and why this SC , this ye one of the best , but its easy can to stoped as and all abusing

[cptheslayer 2]

every warrior has unique skill; also everyone has different taste in fun. so do what is fun to you and let other do what is fun to them. no need limitation.

if other playrs cheat, well then dont play with them next time. if you still play with them, then dont complain.

[Aphte 1]

sometimes letting everyone have their way still isnt right

if a person finds a bug or a cheat that makes their units invulnerable and uses it

would it make it better if everyone used it?

then what would happen to this game? or in any game

[{Dark}CoolGuy 1]

ty phate thats what i am have been trying to say all along, it ruins the game

[Light 2]

sometimes letting everyone have their way still isnt right

if a person finds a bug or a cheat that makes their units invulnerable and uses it

would it make it better if everyone used it?

then what would happen to this game? or in any game

hmm u still dont get what Cp is trying to say..

every unit has a weakness, if u mass a particular unit which has an excelent BG(bug in ur words)it can be countered easy... Whats the big deal if opponent mass smoke, its easy to defeat once u know he has massed cannon.... the bottom line is to have a mix of unit, whch is more advantageos than massing any unit havin exceptional bg...if opponent has massed SC u can defeat him shit easy with dragon or serpent...there is no such thing as abuse in here, let the opponent make whtever unit he wants to make.... threre is no such bug which makes a unit invulnerable in BR(even dc can be countrerd)....

nd lastly it doesnot ruins the game coz the more hard the game is More enjoyable it becomes...

[cptheslayer 2]

i agree with what you said about new bugs that make your units invulnerble. But I have never seen such BUG. Here they talk about smokes. So reread my previous post.

Also, a new bug you all call it, i call it super push. I discovered it and many players think it is bugs. So, that is why we dont use it unless you know you already lose the game, usually when you have a few last units just to have fun with the super push. However, other players uses it. I have seen many players say shit about super push. But i dont; i just counter the super push; i kept my eye open for it. It is your own fault to let super push kill you. So dont complain about it.

If any of you discover a new bug that makes you invincible, then you cannot use it either, because we will know. I heard about fog bug. But i trust good players will not use it if it exists. And if you use fog bug, then you know you can never win any game by your own skills. But when you lose, you are just the worse player ever. Of course no one will knw about this, but you will know it and should think about it how you feel about using it.

Lastly, i never litmit any bugs or skills. However, cheats are not allowed. But i dont know if people cheat or not. To me now, yin and rice cheats are not allowed. Other cheats that i dont kwno about does not bother me.

there is another bug originally discovered by Sora. Sora called it Double Whirl. This bug allows us to do whirling spears twice with about at least 93-95 percent of full stamina. The way Sora did it was hard. Sora could not activated all whirlign spears; only a few whirling spears were activated twice.

So, Sora told me about this. Then i tested it. It worked. But I believed that I could make all whirling spears activate twice. So I tried to do it and i succeeded. Then i told Sora how to do it the best way which makes all whirling spears work twice, all, not a few. Then the second person i told was baxter. Then defaulT. And then i posted how to do it in this forum.

Here is how to do it: select all whirling spears, then press shift or ctrl and hold, then press B and hold, then let go off shift and you shall see some good fireworks.

The way Sora did it was: select all whirlign spears, press B and then rapidly press F keys many times. Of course, this way does not allow the player to get all whirling spears.

You can also use shift and B to make yoru units use their BG's at a faster speed. For example, SC will attack very fast twice with full stamina. Faster than pressing B and then pressing B again. Try it and you will know it. This is just like smokes, but smoke dont use stamina.

Lastly, shift key is they key to improving your skills. To some of you think that this is BUG. I agree that double whirl is bug. Fast Double SC is not. So get used to learn about shift and ctrl keys.

[Light 2]

i agree with what you said about new bugs that make your units invulnerble. But I have never seen such BUG. Here they talk about smokes. So reread my previous post.

Also, a new bug you all call it, i call it super push. I discovered it and many players think it is bugs. So, that is why we dont use it unless you know you already lose the game, usually when you have a few last units just to have fun with the super push. However, other players uses it. I have seen many players say shit about super push. But i dont; i just counter the super push; i kept my eye open for it. It is your own fault to let super push kill you. So dont complain about it.

If any of you discover a new bug that makes you invincible, then you cannot use it either, because we will know. I heard about fog bug. But i trust good players will not use it if it exists. And if you use fog bug, then you know you can never win any game by your own skills. But when you lose, you are just the worse player ever. Of course no one will knw about this, but you will know it and should think about it how you feel about using it.

Lastly, i never litmit any bugs or skills. However, cheats are not allowed. But i dont know if people cheat or not. To me now, yin and rice cheats are not allowed. Other cheats that i dont kwno about does not bother me.

there is another bug originally discovered by Sora. Sora called it Double Whirl. This bug allows us to do whirling spears twice with about at least 93-95 percent of full stamina. The way Sora did it was hard. Sora could not activated all whirlign spears; only a few whirling spears were activated twice.

So, Sora told me about this. Then i tested it. It worked. But I believed that I could make all whirling spears activate twice. So I tried to do it and i succeeded. Then i told Sora how to do it the best way which makes all whirling spears work twice, all, not a few. Then the second person i told was baxter. Then defaulT. And then i posted how to do it in this forum.

Here is how to do it: select all whirling spears, then press shift or ctrl and hold, then press B and hold, then let go off shift and you shall see some good fireworks.

The way Sora did it was: select all whirlign spears, press B and then rapidly press F keys many times. Of course, this way does not allow the player to get all whirling spears.

You can also use shift and B to make yoru units use their BG's at a faster speed. For example, SC will attack very fast twice with full stamina. Faster than pressing B and then pressing B again. Try it and you will know it. This is just like smokes, but smoke dont use stamina.

Lastly, shift key is they key to improving your skills. To some of you think that this is BUG. I agree that double whirl is bug. Fast Double SC is not. So get used to learn about shift and ctrl keys.

lol

why u told about double whirl? it was so much fun wen it was confined to few

i remember u showed me the rice cheat once but u didnt tell me how it is done, and eventually after lotta thinkin i figured it out... its all work of SHIFT BUT its soo hard, better not to use it than wastin time in tryin to us it.....

hmm well thats a bug too, i agree. but no one bother's usin it as its a waste of tim nd u have to concentrate on ur peas for that..

ths game surely needs some improvement and some patch upgrades....

[cptheslayer 2]

rice cheat is not hard to do. and not waste time; u save time. maybe u do it the hard way.

[AgentOrange 0]

hum... by knowing this u dont have to move ur units for animation canceling. guess br becomes a game for lazy guys with fast fingers !

if u move your ballist soldiers a little bit after their shot, they wont reload and instantly shoot again. now u use the follow key (shift) and it`s a rapid fire.

[reNekRoManT 3]

cp

i tryed do double whirling

press ctrl or shift and hold later press b and hold then off and nothing

they do nothing

WTF

[[MaGe]-Expo 0]

Another pingpong topics. I think all this started when they start MODDING BR. What so fun in modding br when we already have a great game. Ths is what I learned, if you discover some bug or cheat, its better to keep it to yourself or to your close friends only. What i have seen is they are so proud that they discover a cheat/bug and post it here...Congrats on killing this game...Anyways Happy New Year All