Scout Update Info

[Repoman 0]

Its not TF2 if you disable a certain class from being able to play.

I do not care much for the spy though, since I suck so much as one.

[The Lorax 25]

Guys I think the ban on spies is only temporary, from what I understand the new backstab coding is causing problems with stability on the servers. Even after months of testing valve still screws stuff up. Surprise.

[Rydawg 14]

wait? There is no more spies?

[Melissia 7]

If you have the pistol equipped when you disguise yourself, you're equpping the primary weapon. (rocket launcher, sniper rifle)

If you have the sapper equipped, the secondary weapon (such as stickybomb launcher, shotgun)

IF you have the knife equipped, the melee weapon is shown (shovel, bottle, etc).

Guys I think the ban on spies is only temporary, from what I understand the new backstab coding is causing problems with stability on the servers. Even after months of testing valve still screws stuff up. Surprise.

I'm certain. And I am going to be playing servers that have not banned spies for the duration, because until then the lotusclans ervers are subpar.

[Gringothegamer 0]

To switch weapons you just change your weapon as the spy and press the use last disguise key (The default key is the b key). It will basically change your disguise to the disguise with the new weapon. If you equip the knife it will show that class's melee weapon (eg. Saw, Beer Bottle, Wrench, etc.). If you equip the gun it will show that charrie's primary weapon (eg. Flamethrower, Syringe Gun, Scattergun, etc.). Finally, if you equip the sapper you will show the secondary weapon (eg. Shotgun, Sticky Gun, Machine Gun(Sniper), etc.).

The reason the pyro defaults to the axe is because you default to the knife. If you default to the gun it will show the flamethrower.

[Nket 16]

ATTENTION IDIOTS: If you paid attention at all you would know why the Spy is disabled. Gabe's infinite wisdom provided us with a major glitch, backstab criticals cause server crashes. If you still want to play Spy do it somewhere else, you will not be crashing our servers everytime you manage to get behind that heavy.

[Melissia 7]

ATTENTION FUCKTARD: I have already stated I'm not going to be playing on the lotusclan servers until I can play spy,. Also, I have caused many a backstab in the time since the patch on many a server without crashing a server yet-- that said, I do not doubt that the error exists (typical Valve coding ability) but at the same time, spy is my favorite class and so I have no reason to play on a server that restricts me from playing spy.

Edited February 25, 2009 by Melissia

[The Lorax 25]

But I want to stab people!!! Waaaannnnnnhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! You guys suck.

[Repoman 0]

I tried playing a game of TF2, but the massive amounts of scouts is ruining it.

[Rydawg 14]

I tried playing a game of TF2, but the massive amounts of scouts is ruining it.

This is nothing new. Pyro, Heavy, Medic, even the engi update. Thats all their were. So I go play on a an achievement server, get my shit then come back and play the best class to kill all the other people

[Mana 3,867]

Jason Ruymen

to Half-Life, hlds_linux

show details 6:53 PM (6 minutes ago)

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A required update for Team Fortress 2 is on the way. It should be live in about 30 minutes.

Jason

YAY.

[Melissia 7]

Good good, hopefully that update will fix the spy issues and I can start playing spy on servers I actually like.

So, how long is half an hour in valve time/

[Plasma Waffle 0]

http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time

[Melissia 7]

Ah, quite a helpful link there. So I'm guessing around three to five hours from when they announced it. Hrm.

Edited February 26, 2009 by Melissia

[Luminal 0]

Update has just been released:

Gameplay changes

Removed the damage reduction against non-stunned enemies on the new bat

Players with full health can now pick up dropped sandviches

Fixes

Reverted the change that treated chat text starting with / as a command instead of passing it through as chat

Fixed a crash related to baseball impacts

Fixed the Heavy's hands disappearing when he's stunned while wearing the KGB

Fixed the BONK! particles appearing in the air when the bat's taunt kill is used on a target

Fixed Force-A-Nature description not fitting inside the item window

Fixed the Axtinguisher

[Mana 3,867]

Update has just been released:

Gameplay changes

Removed the damage reduction against non-stunned enemies on the new bat

Players with full health can now pick up dropped sandviches

Fixes

Reverted the change that treated chat text starting with / as a command instead of passing it through as chat

Fixed a crash related to baseball impacts

Fixed the Heavy's hands disappearing when he's stunned while wearing the KGB

Fixed the BONK! particles appearing in the air when the bat's taunt kill is used on a target

Fixed Force-A-Nature description not fitting inside the item window

Fixed the Axtinguisher

It hasn't fixed the main crash though.

But so far this crash seems to happen only on goldrush/badwater.

I will do some tests to see what happens whit out those maps.

[Repoman 0]

Yay for Mana!

[Melissia 7]

well, tell me if you plan on removing the ban on the non-payload maps, and I'll start playing those servers (namely dustbowl)

[»Enigma« 0]

this update sucks

melissia also sucks

my life sucks

[Mana 3,867]

well, tell me if you plan on removing the ban on the non-payload maps, and I'll start playing those servers (namely dustbowl)

It's still crashing. Seems like Valve isn't entirely sure what's causing. Odly enough disabling the spy seems to increase up time. It might just be a coincidence now. Perhaps disabling A class reduces the amount of scenes/gamerules/whatever the crap is causing crashes. Thus it can leak longer before crashing...

I'll disable the spy again on one server and run another whit out any plugins. We'll see which one stays up longer.

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Engine Error

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Host_Error: Overflow error writing string table baseline GameRulesCreation

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OK

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[email protected]

to Half-Life

show details 9:00 PM (2 hours ago)

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I have been getting this crash:

Host_error: Overflow error writing string table baseline Scenes

Not sure if that's related to it.

[friedrice 8]

Scout update + no spies = Unstoppable engineers.

[Repoman 0]

Or pyros, its been very fun burning the scouts.

[Mana 3,867]

So still there's no official fix. But DF made a plugin which might help:

Tony Paloma

to Half-Life, Half-Life

show details 3:05 AM (9 hours ago)

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Hey everyone,

I've released a plugin that hopefully fixes the Host_Error crashes that a

lot of people have been getting. The plugin is a Valve server plugin, and

does not require metamod or Sourcemod. It can be loaded in the middle of a

game with no noticeable load time. After loading the plugin, you should

change the map for the plugin to take any action.

You can download it from my website:

http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=D...load&cid=11

Direct link:

http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=D...etit&lid=34

I'm making no guarantees with the first version and I need your help

testing. I've been running it on my servers and noticed immediate

improvement. Also, voogru is running it on his servers and everything seems

fine so far.

Also, this is not some amazing fix-everything plugin and will not fix any

unrelated crashes or prevent your server from lagging or give you insane FPS

or anything.

Contents of the README file:

String Table Blocker

Version: 1 for TF2

Date: 2/25/09

Creator: Drunken F00l, www.sourceop.com

This plugin prevents the following crash (or ones similar):

Host_Error: Overflow error writing string table baseline Scenes

It works by removing a bunch of stuff from the string tables. The goal of

this

is to remove enough stuff so that a client can connect without causing an

overflow when the server tries to send the client all of the string tables.

By

default, it will remove almost all scene (vcd) files and defer all of them

from

being added until use. The taunt scenes will be removed which will break

taunts.

This can be controlled by one of the CVARs. Adding taunts back in may or may

not

cause an overflow message and hasn't been thoroughly tested.

CVARs:

stb_blocktaunts

- Blocks taunts from being processed. (defaults to on)

stb_blockunused

- Blocks unused table entries. Should always be enabled. (defaults to on)

stb_cutspy

- Blocks spy scene table entries. (defaults to on)

stb_cutvoicemenu

- Blocks all vcd related to voice menu and responses. (defaults to on)

stb_deferallscenes

- Doesn't enter scene table entries until use. (defaults to on)

stb_verbose

- Displays messages to console when action is taken. (defaults to off)

[Melissia 7]

well, if you put that plugin in, I'll start playing again on your servers tonight.

[The Lorax 25]

Interestingly, there seems to be a general consensus that people are happy the spy is gone, even if it is only temporary.