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[Speedy 11]

Yes, that is the only way in a large map.

[IndominusRex 13]

SC in lotus is Overpower. Now I know, no matter you're good in serpent, you can't never win Mass SC (Like TERA)

[cptheslayer 2]

common, sc is powerful, but it has weakness. A big slow kid can't always beat a fast small kid.

[IndominusRex 13]

Wow, I am improve a little bit playing against SC masser.

[[ST]Seraphim 1]

This is a very good question! Is mass SC abuse? Hmm, well, I think it really depends on the situation. First of all, it's safe to assume that everyone that's any good with lotus uses DC. The combination of successful DC use and massive SC makes it almost impossible for a dragon or wolf opponent to win. But, I remember one particular game where a dragon opponent was ID abusing my team until I went over and SCed them. So there's a situation where SC was needed. And if it weren't for SC, lotus would have a difficult time surviving an army of 40 berzerkers. I stop mass berz without SC if I need to, but most people can't. So I think it could be abuse if used in mass versus those two clans. Abuse versus serpent or lotus is pretty much not possible since lotus versus lotus is even and serpent has so many ways to disable lotus. My opinion is that SC might be improved if the radius of effect were reduced, or maybe not. The cost of stamina for a brother to bless warlocks is right the way it is. The other warlock BG are useful, just not outrageous like SC.

[CacHLee 0]

SC-Overpowered BG but if your opponent is SC masser then DOnt let your guard down for Brother Sehk to get a stamina... I guess CP's right... just enjoy the game.. peace y'all...

[Speedy 11]

I never use SC against mass Zerks there's no point it barely touches them when they have Shale. It's better to get mounted Chanellers and Diseased ones with Vomit and some Goo from Uncleans + some Staff Adepts with the damage upgrade. The main thing is that you keep your Chanellers out of melee since they are weak, and can't seek and heal your units that way. The horses can provide limited protection but they are still vulnerable, so it's worth having some towers with Chanellers in them as well.

[{Dark}SunriSE 1]

Using more than 3 SC is not abuse. -.-

[IndominusRex 13]

NO NO NO - NO abuse

[[LOT]rundown 3]

It's just an easy way to win.

[cptheslayer 2]

I never use SC against mass Zerks there's no point it barely touches them when they have Shale. It's better to get mounted Chanellers and Diseased ones with Vomit and some Goo from Uncleans + some Staff Adepts with the damage upgrade. The main thing is that you keep your Chanellers out of melee since they are weak, and can't seek and heal your units that way. The horses can provide limited protection but they are still vulnerable, so it's worth having some towers with Chanellers in them as well.

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About 25+ sc's will own shale berskers. One click and shale berserkers (most have yellow health). once shaled berserkers start to attack, soon they run out of stamina to run away, and those warlocks will activate sc's again. Guess what will happened? Most of berserekrs will have red health or die. Those berskers only managed to kill a few warlocks but many will die from sc's. and no stamina to run away.

Now, if 30-35 sc's v shaled bserekers, then no need to tell the outcome.

My suggestion, use soul thresher to kill other clans since people don't complain much about it. It will kill anything. A few of them can give you a big advantage. Those shaled bersekers dare not to be near your mwarlocks. If you have about 5 soul threshers, then you can win wolf ezily. But if you fight againt serpent with good micro, your soul threshers and goo will kill vet and muggers with only a few shots. Even those cannons will die fast. nothing can stop mass soul threshers under dc and a few healers.

So stop complaining about mass sc's and other BG's. Mass sc's only works against you when you have a clum formation and those sc's killed all your units.

One trick for lotus v lotus. Keep your sc way back from your dc army. Let your enemy use dw on your dc army then run his or her sc to kill your dc army. Once you see it coming, haste your sc's. Then after your dc army got sc'ed, run your hasted sc's to kill those opposing sc's. Reactivate your dc. Well, after this, you can chase your enemy with dw and dc and sc.

[Aphte 1]

sc is cheap shit

end of story

[Guess_Who 0]

well the staff of br edited SC a bit. i can remember in the old verson you can use SC 3 times, because SC dont take so much stamina (only 1/3 not 1/2)...

now its still to strong even SC cost half of the stamina. i also think its not a cheat, but overpowered

[Izaak 3]

SC's property is piercing, not magic. Did anybody know that? If you didn't perhaps you'll need to change your strategy.

-Izaak, Lord of the Lotus Clan.

[Guess_Who 0]

yeah very useful, i didnt know that. how about yvaine? i dont know exactly what she is. does anybody know it?

[Speedy 11]

Yvaine's would also be piercing I expect.

[Dragonsoul 3]

Yvaine Magic Piercing ++ -- -- = --- ---

yes, she's weak against cutting and strong in everything else.