The Rageshield

[Spartan_0214 18]

You know what else is fun? Having half the team go cloak and dagger spy and sit there watching the enemy spawn. I did this solo on Gold Rush. Stood right outside the enemy spawn. They all either went left or right, they never went straight forward. It was hilarious. Until the round ended and the donator particles gave me away. And yes, I know about Captain Planet and Psi stalking a sniper.

[Captain Planet 28]

Cloak and Dagger FTW! Best hide and seek device ever created...

Also, Spartan. Phantom was right there too, but he wasn't on the boxes, just right behind them, lol. Learned this after watching his PoV with the demo, hahaha

[+Henry Spencer 117]

I was across the way, hiding on the boxes right outside the attic. I disguised as one of their Pyros and kept spamming "Need a Dispenser Here!". He was flipping the fuck out. lol

[You suck and have no life 203]

Too bad you are the one doing this. So I guess you defeated your own example. Fun, that. Your screenshot wasn't proof of you being on the entire time-- you could have easilly just switched over to red and took a screenshot after a couple of minutes (to empty the chat) then switched back. The only way to prove that would have been a demo or video, and even that would have also been statistically irrelevant anyway as just because in one particular day you stayed on the losing team a few times it doesn't make my own statement untrue-- that more often than not, you do end up switching to the winning team.

I was on that team the entire time for obvious reasons that I have 7 present dominations. Had I have switched teams, I would have lost all my dominations. Also ask EagleEye. He switched from my team to his brother's team at the beginning of the round. So I'm right you are wrong as always. Just because you cant prove something, doesnt mean the opposite is true. I cant prove you are a girl, does that mean you have a penor? I cant prove there is a tea pot orbiting earth, does that mean there is? I cant prove the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist, does that mean its automatically true? durr hurrr.

[Oww My Nose 19]

i've seen the flying spaghetti monster

[You suck and have no life 203]

i've seen the flying spaghetti monster

was he touching you with his noodly appendages?

[Oww My Nose 19]

that's just akward... no, he was saving little children from a burning building... then he ate them, because he is a monster after-all

[Melissia 7]

I was on that team the entire time for obvious reasons that I have 7 present dominations. Had I have switched teams, I would have lost all my dominations.

Which again doesn't prove anything because it's only a single example against a generalist statement. A generalist statement is not disproven by a single example.

For example: Rap during the 90s was a primarilly black form of music. Sure, there were exceptions, especially in the late 90s, but this remains true. Final Fantasy games are generally linear RPGs-- there are exceptions, such as the MMO and the Tactics series, but the generalist statement remains true.

(this naturally went over your head, because obviously a single example proves that something is always the case-- so long as it supports your argument) It's so amusing watching you desparately cling to everything that might remotely make you look like you have a larger E-Peen.

Edited May 29, 2009 by Melissia

[You suck and have no life 203]

Which again doesn't prove anything because it's only a single example against a generalist statement. A generalist statement is not disproven by a single example.

No, it proves everything. You cant switch teams and keep your dominations. It doesn't matter which game, day, team you are on, if you change teams, you lose your dominations. The fact I have 7 dominations, means it is impossible for me to have changed teams and all of a sudden own all of my original team mates.

It is also against common logic. People generally change from the losing team to the winning team. Not the other way around. If I was on the winning team, why would I change to the losing team? I have auto balance immunity. So you are saying I have my 80-6 KDR ratio from being on the winning team, and then BOOM, I switch teams and I get 7 dominations on my original team players? Newb please. Ask all the players in the screen shot, they are all witnesses. You lose. And your logic is so retarded. Thats why you are studying some BS major from a community college (thats double newbness stacked together)

I got all day at work. We can keep at it newb.

Edited May 29, 2009 by YouSuckAndYouHaveNoLife

[Melissia 7]

Wow, my post went right over your head Suckylife. You totally failed reading comprehension.

[You suck and have no life 203]

I was on that team the entire time for obvious reasons that I have 7 present dominations. Had I have switched teams, I would have lost all my dominations.

Which again doesn't prove anything because it's only a single example against a generalist statement. A generalist statement is not disproven by a single example.

Wow, my post went right over your head Suckylife. You totally failed reading comprehension.

Oh really? "Changing teams = losing original dominations" is a single example against a generalist statement? Right.... cuz when you switch teams, it now shows you dominating your own teammates. That makes a whole lot of sense.

Plus, I don't lie. So if I say I didn't change teams, I didn't change teams. There is no point in posting a screen shot and then lie about it. Thats all the proof we need. You just mad your KDR is below one. One day you might get a kdr of 80 to 6. Maybe... after you get plastic surgery and some personality enhancements.

[Melissia 7]

Ah, he still doesn't get it. What a pity. Have fun and all that wonderful jazz.

[You suck and have no life 203]

Sorry, I cant understand vocab coming from a newb spy taking basketweaving at a community college. Too beyond my intellect.

Edited May 29, 2009 by YouSuckAndYouHaveNoLife

[Miyari 33]

Stop fagging up the Rageshield thread! Razorback love.

[You suck and have no life 203]

I forget, do you get a new razorback every time you go back to the spawn cabinet, do you also get new one if you collect enough ammo? I think the scout ball just regenerates after a certain time point.

[Miyari 33]

I forget, do you get a new razorback every time you go back to the spawn cabinet, do you also get new one if you collect enough ammo? I think the scout ball just regenerates after a certain time point.

You have to go back to the spawn cabinet for a new Razorback, but the Jarate will recharge over time. Ew.

[Rolooooooooo 2]

You have to go back to the spawn cabinet for a new Razorback, but the Jarate will recharge over time. Ew.

Maybe Valve will make the Jarate charge a little faster!(In a zillion years, I know am dumb, but 1 can hope)

Probably Engies will get a shield too or something similar to mess up the spy zapper too. Since Engies get screwed by spies just as much as snipers get easily own by spies in the past.(now thx to the Raqeshield it makes it easier to snipe)

Man if that happens fellow spymates we are fucked !

[You suck and have no life 203]

Maybe Valve will make the Jarate charge a little faster!(In a zillion years, I know am dumb, but 1 can hope)

Probably Engies will get a shield too or something similar to mess up the spy zapper too. Since Engies get screwed by spies just as much as snipers get easily own by spies in the past.(now thx to the Raqeshield it makes it easier to snipe)

Man if that happens fellow spymates we are fucked !

yeah like a herald of zakarum shield with +2 paladin skills and 50% resist all.

[annikinsx 1]

answer your damn phone

Hellz yeah, you should call Alissa to come join the fun too. Shes got a nice voice.

and who the fuck is alissa?

[EagleEye 20]

I was on that team the entire time for obvious reasons that I have 7 present dominations. Had I have switched teams, I would have lost all my dominations. Also ask EagleEye. He switched from my team to his brother's team at the beginning of the round. So I'm right you are wrong as always. Just because you cant prove something, doesnt mean the opposite is true. I cant prove you are a girl, does that mean you have a penor? I cant prove there is a tea pot orbiting earth, does that mean there is? I cant prove the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist, does that mean its automatically true? durr hurrr.

Actually he's right... we were the winning team and he did switch to the losing team for stage 3 on that map. Why? Because he knows for a fact that demos OWN people on that last corner.

Let me just tell you a little story... I suck a demo, right? I hate it... too much spamming at random, not enough in-your-face killing... I love the pyro.

Anyway, I think it was directly because of this incident represented in the screen shot... I decided to go demo on the last part of dustbowl and see how I did spamming nothing but pipes over the corner there.

As it turns out, I was dominating at least 4 people I think, and was alive for a whopping 6 or 7 minutes at a time. I mean, seriously, that corner is soooooooo easy to hold as a demoman, and if you really wanna play like a douche, get a kritz medic to help you, and have an engie with a sentry in the stairwell of that building on the left (from defensive perspective) and a dispenser to quickly reload from.

ALL of the douche demos do it... It's expected... My brother does it too, and brags about his score as well...

And yet, I generally end up topping the scoreboard anyway, as a pyro... while actually putting myself in harm's way, and dying twice as often. Odd, that.

But yes, I can verify that Suckboy actually did switch to the losing team... but only so he could be a douche and inflate his score on probably the easiest choke point to hold, where demos get more random-ass kills than anyone, simply because... well... they're pussies that never show their faces and randomly spam choke points.

But hey, that's how a demo is played best, right?

What I'd love to see is these demos playing a pyro and taking down 2 sentries, their engies, dispensers, and a heavy or two, all after they lose their uber.

Oh yeah... and as proof of the assertion that suckboy changes teams just so he can show off how many points he got while on the losing team...

Here we have the end of the round scoreboard... where he is showing just how badly he needs to compensate for his small manhood (he's even admitting it in chat!) Granted, I know this is him being silly...

Then we look at the actual teams, and note that there are 3 more people on the winning team than the losing one... why? It should be obvious.

And then we see him change back...

[Stabby McKnife-Face 17]

Drama:

I would have a high KDR too if I always had a medic healing me. Also Miyari is fun to ambassador + CaD snipe.

I always laugh when I see Razorbacks. Depending on my mood I either go in with ambassador blazing or break their shield for the laughs. The stun on my knife is so negligible I really don't care.

[You suck and have no life 203]

Actually he's right... we were the winning team and he did switch to the losing team for stage 3 on that map. Why? Because he knows for a fact that demos OWN people on that last corner.

Let me just tell you a little story... I suck a demo, right? I hate it... too much spamming at random, not enough in-your-face killing... I love the pyro.

Anyway, I think it was directly because of this incident represented in the screen shot... I decided to go demo on the last part of dustbowl and see how I did spamming nothing but pipes over the corner there.

As it turns out, I was dominating at least 4 people I think, and was alive for a whopping 6 or 7 minutes at a time. I mean, seriously, that corner is soooooooo easy to hold as a demoman, and if you really wanna play like a douche, get a kritz medic to help you, and have an engie with a sentry in the stairwell of that building on the left (from defensive perspective) and a dispenser to quickly reload from.

ALL of the douche demos do it... It's expected... My brother does it too, and brags about his score as well...

And yet, I generally end up topping the scoreboard anyway, as a pyro... while actually putting myself in harm's way, and dying twice as often. Odd, that.

But yes, I can verify that Suckboy actually did switch to the losing team... but only so he could be a douche and inflate his score on probably the easiest choke point to hold, where demos get more random-ass kills than anyone, simply because... well... they're pussies that never show their faces and randomly spam choke points.

But hey, that's how a demo is played best, right?

What I'd love to see is these demos playing a pyro and taking down 2 sentries, their engies, dispensers, and a heavy or two, all after they lose their uber.

Oh yeah... and as proof of the assertion that suckboy changes teams just so he can show off how many points he got while on the losing team...

Here we have the end of the round scoreboard... where he is showing just how badly he needs to compensate for his small manhood (he's even admitting it in chat!) Granted, I know this is him being silly...

Then we look at the actual teams, and note that there are 3 more people on the winning team than the losing one... why? It should be obvious.

And then we see him change back...

Those screen shots are on the wrong day and wrong time bud. In the original screenshot I posted. You were a demoman on my team. At the map restart. We were at stage 1. I said, hey, look, I get to fight your brother. After you heard that, you switched to blue. Ever since we been on the opposite teams. You switched over to help your brother. I stayed.

Some times I switch to the team at the end of the round to knock out their MVPs off the scoreboard, and then switch back. This doesn't benefit my score, in fact I get an extra death. The other reason I switch is if I'm telling my team that 6 snipers is going to cause us to lose, they dont listen, I tell them if they arent going to team play, I'm going over and they will definitely never win. Its more of teaching the retards a lesson. But for the most part, I really want to help my team win. My team usually wins usually because I helped make it win, not because it was already winning and I simply switched. I have one of the fastest computers of most users on the server. I'm typically the first person to select a team after a server restart. Since I cant predict the future, I have no idea who my team mates are going to be.

I'm am pretty loyal to the team given that we dont have 7 snipers on our team and that wont switch to a more efficient class. I tend to join the slightly inferior team when I start unless I have a friend on the other team. But again, nobody wants to play on a totally trash team that even I cant swing the tide.

Drama:

I would have a high KDR too if I always had a medic healing me. Also Miyari is fun to ambassador + CaD snipe.

I always laugh when I see Razorbacks. Depending on my mood I either go in with ambassador blazing or break their shield for the laughs. The stun on my knife is so negligible I really don't care.

Damn, theres a lot of people living near Seattle. Wasnt there another one? I forget. Bellevue was an awesome place to live. Its also a good place to deliver sandwiches on a bicycle lol. I made 30 bucks an hour doing that in college. No finding parking spots in metropolitan area FTW.

Edited May 30, 2009 by YouSuckAndYouHaveNoLife

[Miyari 33]

FYI if you don't rageswitch to defense on Dustbowl 3 you're doing it wrong. Dustbowl 3 is the stupidest map on offense and is a delightful spamfest and Kritz orgy on defense. There's no reason you should be robbed of such a lovely experience just because you played too well on the first two stages. Unless it's over in <3 minutes, offense will lose - it requires WAY too much fucking coordination and is way too easy to thwart any sort of that unless you fucking stand in the spawn or like hide behind the first point to charge ubers and shit. I will almost always rageswitch unless I'm absurdly attracted to my team, and usually most of them will follow.

Drama:

I would have a high KDR too if I always had a medic healing me. Also Miyari is fun to ambassador + CaD snipe.

I just wanted to point out that you killed me possibly once, and I was dominating you. Clearly you aren't used to spying me. It's ok, though, most aren't. I was freaking out though, because my team was too mentally retarded to actually find and kill you and I seriously couldn't be arsed to because I was too busy carrying their asses as sniper.

[You suck and have no life 203]

Unless it's over in <3 minutes, offense will lose - it requires WAY too much fucking coordination and is way too easy to thwart any sort of that unless you fucking stand in the spawn or like hide behind the first point to charge ubers and shit. I will almost always rageswitch unless I'm absurdly attracted to my team, and usually most of them will follow.

I agree that if defense has 5 good demos and 3 good medics, its almost unwinnable for offense. The better defense is, the higher the skill gap offense must have in order to win.

But for typical newb defense teams, all you have to do is take control both apartments on either side. If you have teleporters in there, its game over. Red typically huddles near the capture point and end up getting spawn camped.

Edited May 30, 2009 by YouSuckAndYouHaveNoLife

[EagleEye 20]

Yeah, demos on that 3rd stage SUCK... and I know those screen shots were from a different game... if you read what I said again, you may realize the change of context.

Anyway... sorry of I was unclear.

The way to win on offense on DB3:2 (that's stage 3, cap 2), you have to have at least 3 medics, if not 4. Those medics have to have skill (as in, stay alive long enough to get ubers charged)... and you have to have coordination. First, you send in an uber pyro to sweep out the demos. Right behind, an uber demo to sticky/boom the sentries. The other 2 medics should still be charging at this point... those first 2 ubers clear out the defenders and start their 20 second respawn. Other people should be sweeping behind the 2 ubers to clear out the soft targets remaining, and get to the point.

The #1 BIGGEST priority at this point is to clear out the left and right sides of the point... take out the fucking demos that sticky the point, so their stickies go away.

It pisses me off sooooooo much when I see people running to the point and just getting blown up over and over and over and over... I have been known to yell in to my mic at this point... something about "lemmings" followed by "kill the goddamn demos on the sides!"

This is why when my team is close to capping, I will be one of the few people NOT on the point. I do this on cap 2 on the other 2 stages as well... I intercept the people coming out of spawn to prevent them from getting to the point, or to just delay them, or kill them so the stickies go away. Yeah, I deny myself a point for capping, but I get points for kills as they come out of spawn, and help my team by allowing them to cap without much interference.

Anyway... your explanation about changing teams at the end of the round... it makes sense.

And here I was thinking you were just doing it to toot your own horn.