Soldier Update

[Miyari 33]

I don't want to knock off sappers, it's easy enough to spam a sentry gun area with rockets and kill a spy. I just want something to heal me, that's my biggest problem as a solo soldier.

[Graedus 9]

And we come back to maggots being an unlockable... Maybe you could dig maggots out of the ground to eat...?

Or something to counteract the whole rocket jumping damage thing. Probably some sort of iron boot that can protect you and do damage if you land on people. Although that's been talked about before and is somewhat unrealistic in terms of that technique every being useful...

[Victoreem the V of doom 30]

I'm opposed to the soldier getting anything other than a pure offensive weapon. Since the soldier is far more mobile then a heavy he shouldn't really need anything for health and if he did you would end up sitting in a corner munching on BBQ spare(?)ribs for 5 seconds

Ok here. Smoke bomb heavily impairs the enemy teams vision and slightly impairs friendly vision. Team colored smoke. Could be gradual or a sudden burst of smoke. Not direct combat but it would help you get out of a bad situation or conceal a rush, also would make some of those nasty choke points much more bearable.I would think it shouldn't hinder sentry guns because that would make it too strong.

Another thought on this, shots fired through the smoke have reduced damage mabie 10-20%

one more thought. This item for the engie might work too, with some tweaks he could better protect his sentry

Edited July 28, 2009 by Victoreem the V of doom

[Link2086 5]

Having been a CSS player before I came to TF2, I can only say hell no when it comes to any smoke-related items. Aside from the fact that it's not really useful, smokespamming would be both really annoying and harder on your system (hi particles).

Also speaking from CSS experience, smoke grenades do not work to conceal anything. As a matter of fact, they're basically a gigantic "SHOOT HERE" sign to the enemy team. The only time a grenade would be useful would be throwing it somewhere useless, like a corner, and making them waste time shooting at it.

While it would also work to say "well you only get one", the locker makes it really easy to spam. We don't need soldiers throwing fifty smoke grenades before a round starts (imagine A on cp_steel and you'll see how it could be abused).

While it initially sounds like a good idea, after having played a game that did include smoke grenades, I can safely say they're probably more trouble than they're worth.

Shovel/sapper idea is interesting. I'd say four whacks with the shovel as opposed to two with the wrench, and maybe the shovel is 'breakable', so after a few whacks you'd have to get a new one like the Scout's ball. It's also less spammable because you're not throwing it around like the ball.

[Victoreem the V of doom 30]

glad too see a valid argument. truth be told, the only game I have played that had smoke grenades was CoD2(i think). If you know what I'm talking about then you should know that that's not what i was thinking. After thinking on it some more, a small cloud that instantly puffs up and degrades within a 2-4 second span, reducing dmg by a fair amount over my original 20% and while other players on you're team are unaffected visually, you and enemies are.(the idea is that with the reduced damage taken you could just toss one and spam away with far less threat to you)

short span will make a soldier that is "case" spamming a waste of time.

the idea was really to fit as a "shitz goin down i needa jet liek quick now"

thinking crits are unaffected by the smog

there is SO MUCH that you can do in that time frame while you cant be seen. I'm committed to this idea

new weapon- <J.L.Y.4 launcher> secondary

-shoots a bottle rocket that explodes and sets people on fire for 3 seconds

-low splash radius

-low contact dmg

-more ammo then the shotgun

-faster fire rate

[kuttlewug 28]

Give soldier a big rocket. Nuclear bomb. It instantly kills the other team. I win!

Other idea. A mortor

Edited July 28, 2009 by podsaurus

[Victoreem the V of doom 30]

another thought on the smoke bomb.

people shoot at players with jaratie on them because the chance of getting a kill is higher.

why shoot at someone you only have vague idea of where he is over another target

-also remember in CSS you have very very limited hp to where smoke grenades are less effective. Random spam could kill you with some ease- (btw iv played css but didn't think much of it)

instantly dispersed by an air blast.

[Spartan_0214 18]

A smoke screen is a good target for demospam and Heavy spam.

[redruM_13 17]

I just want something to heal me, that's my biggest problem as a solo soldier.

Bullet proof vest... flak jacket. Some type of protective clothing rather than a healing element? This might interfere with future clothing updates that they have in store though?

[Victoreem the V of doom 30]

a good target you say? because you cant see through it you only have a 50-50 shot of even hitting anything out in the open (an intelligent player could easily use it as a decoy).Even in a closed area, junction, would you shoot at a cloud of dust or a heavy coming towards you

If you haven't realized it yet this item would support close quarters/cluttered environments changing the way you play with the soldier so dose the boxing glove on a spring idea.

Incoming uber/krits heavy or demo? impair there view and effectively block an uber for a few seconds. Fuck any rush could be reduced random spam instead of moderately calculated spam with a well placed bomb.

self preservation is improved being able to shake off a pursuer around a 3 way tunnel or cluttered environment

Just think about it a little bit

[h3gi 5]

Bam

[Data 2]

Bam

I thought that was fake?

[You suck and have no life 203]

http://teamfortress.com/rss.xml

I dont see all that stuff.

[Link2086 5]

Considering it's dated July 23rd, and it is now July 30th, I don't think that's real.

Also, what's with the British spellings of the words ("defence")?

[You suck and have no life 203]

did some research, there is a lot of speculation this may be true actually.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1437815

http://www.gametab.com/news/3064054/

[cant push uber nub 3]

And we come back to maggots being an unlockable... Maybe you could dig maggots out of the ground to eat...?

Or something to counteract the whole rocket jumping damage thing. Probably some sort of iron boot that can protect you and do damage if you land on people. Although that's been talked about before and is somewhat unrealistic in terms of that technique every being useful...

If the solder is allowed to dig up the ground for maggots I will uninstall the game. That is ridiculous! Give him a MRE before maggots FFS

New combat boots would be beneficial and so would smoke screen. Lob it behind enemy lines and snipers would be useless.

[You suck and have no life 203]

Valve TF2 update is kinda like asking god for bigger muscles which you end up getting but also a smaller dick. You can't have everything here. Stop asking for amazing upgrades, its not going to happen. You cant be Mister Olympia and a Kenyan Marathoner at the same time.

[Link2086 5]

If Soldier items wind up sucking, I'll just play the default Soldier. No harm no foul.

[Dashuu 11]

If Soldier items wind up sucking, I'll just play the default Soldier. No harm no foul.

Depends on what the unlocks are. You don't have to use the sandman to experience it.

[Shin Gouki 1]

When the engineer pack comes out I feel like they will have a fan add-on that blows away demo stickys and shit.

[Victoreem the V of doom 30]

new meaning to the term "shock and awe"?? I hope its the beloved Cow launcher that has mini guns that shoot flaming chainsaws.