cptheslayer 2 #26 Posted December 13, 2006 stroke, don you get it? he was talking about games against ais, or off line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epoX{L} 0 #27 Posted December 13, 2006 yea, but just samurai? and he wrote just rubbish in the forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cptheslayer 2 #28 Posted December 13, 2006 wow i am a warlock now. but i don like warlock. I should spam to get to a lvl where i am called cp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epoX{L} 0 #29 Posted December 13, 2006 I should spam too, im a peasant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zao 3 #30 Posted December 13, 2006 i dont give a shit about what ppl think man... dragon clan rocks, well if ppl say that they hate it cause they cnt kill the other kind of clans.. well that duznt meant that the dragon sucks, it means that the suck... dude with the dragon clan i defeated 4 lotus and 1 wolf group in less then 25minutes.... i just built full samurais and den killed... done.... 22107[/snapback] Only sams? I did this before, but only when the opponent was using mass ronins. it's fun how to see that one or two seppukus can kill the entire ronin troop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{MBR}Trix 0 #31 Posted June 2, 2007 Dragon clan is not weak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{HeRo}GeneralDS 4 #32 Posted June 27, 2007 The truth, dragon is not weak. The reason they seem weak is because the person is not using them properly in the right situations. Example: Someone sends a horde of musketeers in and the dragon user sends in a horde of samurai. The musketeers have the element advantage since Samurais are weak to explosives. But say the dragon user sent in Dragon Skin Samurais against said musketeers. The musketeers are no longer at an advantage and are soon wiped out because they are exposed to their disadvantage of melee combat. The non D-Skin Samurai troop would die regardless of how many you send it to "own" an enemy. The D-skin Samurai troop would easily own the musketeers since they can't be affected by ranged moves for a time and musketeers cannot fight well in melee. There are many possible situations, but I cannot list every single one. The myth I believe about dragon to be false is that mass SC easily owns archers regardless. Well how can those SC get thru a daze from towers even if hasted? Just use Daze from a tower and just eliminate the warlocks with archers. You can be suprised at how fast warlocks die from just a few archers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cptheslayer 2 #33 Posted June 27, 2007 The truth, dragon is not weak. The reason they seem weak is because the person is not using them properly in the right situations. Example: Someone sends a horde of musketeers in and the dragon user sends in a horde of samurai. The musketeers have the element advantage since Samurais are weak to explosives. But say the dragon user sent in Dragon Skin Samurais against said musketeers. The musketeers are no longer at an advantage and are soon wiped out because they are exposed to their disadvantage of melee combat.The non D-Skin Samurai troop would die regardless of how many you send it to "own" an enemy. The D-skin Samurai troop would easily own the musketeers since they can't be affected by ranged moves for a time and musketeers cannot fight well in melee. There are many possible situations, but I cannot list every single one. The myth I believe about dragon to be false is that mass SC easily owns archers regardless. Well how can those SC get thru a daze from towers even if hasted? Just use Daze from a tower and just eliminate the warlocks with archers. You can be suprised at how fast warlocks die from just a few archers. that might true, but if the musketeers run around til your sams run out of stamina, then you are doomed. or just simply mug or vet and you are doomed still. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samuraispirit 0 #34 Posted June 28, 2007 Dragon is weak? Thats stupid. The dragon is honorfull and got the mighty samurais. He fight for peace, honor and victory in battle. When I play a clan I realize theyr objectives and what they fighting for. Then I trust in everyone of my warriors and then the battle is going out lucky for me. You just have to trust in your clan and its strengh and you have to know for what your clan is fighting. Then you win the most of the battles. And when you loose a battle you are happily to your fallen warriors because you know they died for your clan and its great objectives. And no warrior is fearing the death because he is a real warrior who is sworn to fight and to die. And that is true for the dragon clan because it is so honrofull. Greetings samuraispirit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIG_MAMA 0 #35 Posted July 16, 2007 Dragon is weak? Thats stupid. The dragon is honorfull and got the mighty samurais. He fight for peace, honor and victory in battle. When I play a clan I realize theyr objectives and what they fighting for. Then I trust in everyone of my warriors and then the battle is going out lucky for me. You just have to trust in your clan and its strengh and you have to know for what your clan is fighting. Then you win the most of the battles. And when you loose a battle you are happily to your fallen warriors because you know they died for your clan and its great objectives. And no warrior is fearing the death because he is a real warrior who is sworn to fight and to die. And that is true for the dragon clan because it is so honrofull. Greetings samuraispirit lol how poetic^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomonnk 2 #36 Posted July 16, 2007 L.O.L. The Dragon is fighting for honour. The Lotus is fighting for power. The Wolf is fighting for freedom. But the best is.... ...the Serpent is fighting for beer I like them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonsoul 3 #37 Posted July 16, 2007 A can of honor for me plz lolololol actually the Serpent is fighting for.....just the sake of it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reNekRoManT 3 #38 Posted December 9, 2007 Dragon weak againist Lotus and "rush" attack Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar 5 #39 Posted December 10, 2007 You are all making one mistake. Why do you all compare the clans's power by the pure combat ??? For instance in the late state of the game the lotus have a devastating power, but how quickly they can run and how further ??? One more, because of the brothers that CANT run the whole army is slow, and on a big map this is a great disadvantage. Acording to the topic the dragon clan is my favourite. It has the most aesthetic appearance, but more importantly it is strong in combat because of the COMBINATION of BG. Here is a tip for taking down lotus group: When the lotus soldiers come, run with 2 kabuki and throw Star dust( it can be thrown from a distance) , two in case that the one dies the star dust will force all warlocks unclean and master warlocks to go to the melee where they will meet their doom! Some samurais dragon warriors are enough with 5 geishas with sacrafice ability, used in the correct time and you won't even have a casuallty. The dragon is the best siege clan. The reason why you think it is weak is because except spearmen and geisha all other units have a range attack, that's why they are made weaker in melee. It is rather annoyng the range attack of kabuki, dont you think ? The samurai range attack is strong, but the time it takes to release the arrow and the time to grab his bow make this attack useless. That's why it seems weak clan but it isn't. Look above So dont speak a crap like this "dragon clan is weak"... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cptheslayer 2 #40 Posted December 11, 2007 are you talkniga bout fighting an ai? because it sound like the lotus player is as stupid as an ai to let his or her army to run in to fight. And lets face the br reality, we all like to play in vod or freedom, so there is no where to run to much. if you run, the lotus can catch up to you very quikcy with haste or without haste. or your base gets killed. For lotus's base, just a couple of mwarloks with st and towers and crypt and keep are enough to defend your running army while killing ur base. so pleas don't assume we play in big maps. In Big map, lotus can't kill shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar 5 #41 Posted December 11, 2007 You will use haste for moving ??? Wastefull. Yep freedom is a good fighting map, but it is not really interesting, cuz you cant be surprised on that map. Still my opinion is that Dragon is hard to play, you must control literally each unit in your army if you want to achieve victory. It is not like the wolf where you throw two totems, put the cry of Grayback and watch the pawnage . Here is my opinion of clans about the difficulty to play with: Dragon, Lotus, Serpent, Wolf. Some of you will say that the lotus is the hardest cuz they have a lot BG. That's true, but their units are strong as whole, so I don't think they are the hardest clan to play. For the dragon you really need to be good. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samuraispirit 0 #42 Posted December 11, 2007 No clan is weak. But Lotus is overpowered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epoX{L} 0 #43 Posted December 21, 2007 lotus isnt overpowered, a good serpent player kills every lotus... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]rundown 3 #44 Posted December 23, 2007 I don't know about that. Even the best can't beat a mass sc army with haste and goo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lordserpent 0 #45 Posted December 24, 2007 but sc is overpowered but i they dont use it i can kill every lotus^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epoX{L} 0 #46 Posted December 24, 2007 the best cant beat mass sc with issyl? oh, im not the best and i need only vektin and to beat it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]rundown 3 #47 Posted December 24, 2007 How are you going to use vetkin if their dw with issyl has taken all of vetkin's mana? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epoX{L} 0 #48 Posted December 25, 2007 How are you going to use vetkin if their dw with issyl has taken all of vetkin's mana? Put mines and make towers and spread ur army that he cant kill all... The mines will stop the dw, but you must have a tower that you can see him when he uses his issyl, then you can time ur vektin(you can use bandits/ninjas instead of towers) The most lotus cant survive without towers, some smoke + mug + snipers are enough to kill them... And by the way, a good serpent should kill every lotus before she/he gets issyl + enough sc... A lotus has 2 ways to begin a game: 1. He/She makes a dc rush to kill the serpent fast, it works with many players but a good serpent can block a dc rush easily. 2. He/She makes a normal lotus army - dc, dw, ds, healers and warlocks... You can kill that if you attack in the beginning of the game with some sniper, smoke, mug and maybe 2 healers... And don't forget that you are faster than the slow lotus, that is a big advantage too... Maybe we should play serpent vs lotus, rundown... my msn is [email protected] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]rundown 3 #49 Posted December 25, 2007 Sorry I don't play BR anymore. And I would like to see you beat a good quality lotus with that strategy but until then I don't thinks its possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epoX{L} 0 #50 Posted December 27, 2007 Why don't you play it anymore? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites