Melissia 7 #101 Posted May 15, 2009 Hope it's a better revolver myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rydawg 14 #102 Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) No shit captain obvious, what brilliant deductions are you going to amke now, going to tell me that the sun is hot? im still good @ trolling when i want to The revolver atm already kicks ass. a bomb sap would be awesome, toss a grenade type thing into a group of sentires that saps em! Good question. I think that spy will keep getting buffed as long as he is a "least-played" class. how many spies on a team do they want? I hate when there is more than 1 when im playing it. Too many spies is the most retarded thign in game, then you get 20 pyros on the other team and what good spy people you had are stuck doing nothing Edited May 15, 2009 by Rydawg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Lorax 25 #103 Posted May 15, 2009 Good question. I think that spy will keep getting buffed as long as he is a "least-played" class. Yeah, but there is always going to be a least played class, if it isn't the spy it will be something else. I like the fact that the spy required skill before the cloak and backstab changes. Now, it takes a hell of a lot less skill to kill some folks. Spy has gone from being a relatively difficult class to that of a pyro practically, and now we are going to add what is essentially an infinite cloak and a death decoy. I agree with rydawg, one or two spies is enough, the last thing we need is to make the spy easier than pyro, we all know how annoying they are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melissia 7 #104 Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) THe revolver at the moment is mediocre, especially on no random damage servers. If the weapon was less random and mroe set in its damage, then it'd be fine. At the moment it has big highs in damage from what I can tell, but its normal damage is... meh. Edited May 15, 2009 by Melissia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivanor 1 #105 Posted May 15, 2009 The revolver atm already kicks ass. Agreed, the revolver is awesome, especially against buildings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oh Damn Oh Snap 0 #106 Posted May 15, 2009 http://www.teamfortress.com/spyupdate/english.htm Lols, day 3 sniper thought he was tough shit and got on owned on day 4. if this was posted, apologies, too tired to skim through thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan_0214 18 #107 Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) As someone who doesn't play Spy that often, I'm intrigued by the stand-still regen. I was ecstatic when they added the metal adds to cloak time ability. I started playing Spy a little more when they did that, especially on 2Fort. It was actually one of my complaints that you couldn't pick up metal to recharge your cloak. We'll see how well this works for Spies. (hint: if I'm playing pyro, best of luck to ya as a spy) Oh, and Icy, this isn't an own. This is more of a "go figure" than anything. Edited May 15, 2009 by Spartan_0214 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
You suck and have no life 203 #108 Posted May 15, 2009 http://www.teamfortress.com/spyupdate/english.htmLols, day 3 sniper thought he was tough shit and got on owned on day 4. if this was posted, apologies, too tired to skim through thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oh Damn Oh Snap 0 #109 Posted May 15, 2009 Where's the manual? I'll get on that asap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuttlewug 28 #110 Posted May 16, 2009 http://www.teamfortress.com/spyupdate/english.htmLols, day 3 sniper thought he was tough shit and got on owned on day 4. if this was posted, apologies, too tired to skim through thread. Valve you have lied and deceived us once again. But it's the spy update what else can you expect? I've been playing spy alot more lately maybe those little gadgets will help me out. But now its going to be absolute hell with all the noob spy's trying to backstab...*sigh* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyari 33 #111 Posted May 16, 2009 I think Valve was just trying to shut up all of the spies whining so hard about the sniper's new shield. I don't think any of this would go live with the update, considering they planned on adding new content "for every class" or whatever it'd just be way too much to cram into one pack. I don't know. Whatever, fuck spies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Planet 28 #112 Posted May 16, 2009 I think Valve was just trying to shut up all of the spies whining so hard about the sniper's new shield. I don't think any of this would go live with the update, considering they planned on adding new content "for every class" or whatever it'd just be way too much to cram into one pack. I don't know. Whatever, fuck spies. The Spy Update (5/21/09) Already been announced, it's most likely to come out in less than a week. Get ready or massive spy/sniper action Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan_0214 18 #113 Posted May 16, 2009 Or massive Pyro action... >_> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyari 33 #114 Posted May 16, 2009 The Spy Update (5/21/09)Already been announced, it's most likely to come out in less than a week. Get ready or massive spy/sniper action Actually, I just now remembered all that official forum theory research bullshit everyone was going all off on before they announced the sniper update. Interesting. Here's a thought, MAYBE ITS BOTH OH GOD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolooooooooo 2 #115 Posted May 16, 2009 I play spy a lot on every map(400 plus hours as spy) hmmm well looking at the new items for spy............... The watch is a great thing to have in arena mode. By the time u reach the metal packs your cloak time is all gone and not to mention engies always build near the ammo packs so I can think of many ways to use the cloak and dagger watch. recharging withough metal is fine, because most spies will be scout or pyro. Unless Valve makes the cloak time drain faster with the new items it shouldn't be a big problem. The dead ringer spy watch is somewhat useless or useful depending on the full details of the item. Downside is you have to be hit by a non crit hit and it only last for 8 secs. However, they don't say if your weapons disquise completely too. Right now only the main and malee weapon can be copied. If they let us copy the achievement weapons ( backburner pyros, kritzkreig medic, sandman,sandwich, etc) that would really add more reason to use the dead ringer spy watch. I do love the drugs(though not all the original drugs are back) valve brought back. Now it makes the spy easier to kill people in water. The mask that turns into a grappling hook is perfect for getting more backstabs. I wonder if the rope can snatch UBERS? If so then 1 bonk and a hook is all u need to completely stop UBERS. I'll drag the UBERS off the cliff or better yet drag non UBERS off the cliff and light them on fire as they fall to their doom! Another ideal would be if I hook the uber or non uber and have a pyro flame and airblast the person off the cliff! Still we won't know what each item is fully capable off and the downside until the release day. If my hook theory stays true oh my god they better rename tf2 to SPY and PYRO Fortress 2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivanor 1 #116 Posted May 16, 2009 I do love the drugs(though not all the original drugs are back) valve brought back. Now it makes the spy easier to kill people in water. The mask that turns into a grappling hook is perfect for getting more backstabs. I wonder if the rope can snatch UBERS? If so then 1 bonk and a hook is all u need to completely stop UBERS. I'll drag the UBERS off the cliff or better yet drag non UBERS off the cliff and light them on fire as they fall to their doom! Another ideal would be if I hook the uber or non uber and have a pyro flame and airblast the person off the cliff! Most of the items on there (including the camera beard, etc) are bogus. There are only two spy items (see the hand writing in red) that are actually announced so far. At least, that's how I read this. UPDATE : I was just reading some valve forums and the general consensus is that this will be a dual sniper/spy update for the purpose of avoiding the unpleasant situation of the entire server playing sniper or spy. Therefore, we now know that the entire server will be playing 3 classes: sniper, spy, and pyro. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h3gi 5 #117 Posted May 16, 2009 I didn't think it was possible for anyone to think anything but the two watches were legitimate. I mean, hypno shark pen? Really? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redruM_13 17 #118 Posted May 16, 2009 Most of the items on there (including the camera beard, etc) are bogus. There are only two spy items (see the hand writing in red) that are actually announced so far. At least, that's how I read this. I didn't think it was possible for anyone to think anything but the two watches were legitimate. I mean, hypno shark pen? Really? I would have liked to here more from RYU. Please. Next time, do not interupt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyari 33 #119 Posted May 16, 2009 UPDATE : I was just reading some valve forums and the general consensus is that this will be a dual sniper/spy update for the purpose of avoiding the unpleasant situation of the entire server playing sniper or spy. Therefore, we now know that the entire server will be playing 3 classes: sniper, spy, and pyro. I don't understand why the spy items seem to be undeniable upgrades when Valve has specifically said they don't want such a thing. Who wouldn't use the watch? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Henry Spencer 117 #120 Posted May 16, 2009 Me. I'd much rather run around gunning for ammo boxes and metal to stay alive. What if you have to stand still in the middle of a battle? That would not go well. I get the feeling that this watch is exactly like the old watch, only now you can just stay invisible when the cloak is running out by standing there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Planet 28 #121 Posted May 18, 2009 UPDATE : I was just reading some valve forums and the general consensus is that this will be a dual sniper/spy update for the purpose of avoiding the unpleasant situation of the entire server playing sniper or spy. Therefore, we now know that the entire server will be playing 3 classes: sniper, spy, and pyro. Still think we should have a giant knife fight in the Stock 1 server. All spies, all knives, nothing else. Facestabs will be going off the HOOK! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan_0214 18 #122 Posted May 18, 2009 Ah. Reminds me of practice... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nket 16 #123 Posted May 18, 2009 all these meet the spy gifs make me giggle something good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
You suck and have no life 203 #124 Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) Edited May 18, 2009 by YouSuckAndYouHaveNoLife Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Henry Spencer 117 #125 Posted May 18, 2009 No more direct Spy nerfs, please. The anti-ragespy shield is bad enough, but a one-whack disguise reveal, plus (what sounds like) a damage buff against them? That's even worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites