cptheslayer 2 #201 Posted September 30, 2006 if stardust stops dc, dragon will beat lotus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RG]talush 1 #202 Posted September 30, 2006 Phate' date='Sep 30 2006, 03:09 AM']easier said then done knighty :/alot of lotus people use haste when they are about to SC so its really hard to run away from that and if you are able to get some distace away it will probably wont be that much and sc has a pretty good range on stuff i think it would be really good for dragon if star dust worked on sc 19831[/snapback] Stardust will make it easier for SC to get to Dragon's units Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST]Outlaw 1 #203 Posted September 30, 2006 if stardust worked on sc area, i mean made the area smaller it would b awesome so much more oportunity for dragon clan against soul chillers, also some guardians are great help .. with some guardians, dragon clan gets so much more strenght also with maidens wich pwn guardians make the life so much easier for dragon clan... first sd, then flash, then stun, then whirl, then id/archer and theyre done -.- gg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest [LOT]Phate #204 Posted September 30, 2006 wow outlaw you make sound so easy! *sarcasm* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]diablo 1 #205 Posted September 30, 2006 lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yai 0 #206 Posted October 1, 2006 Outlaw' date='Sep 30 2006, 05:01 PM']if stardust worked on sc area, i mean made the area smaller it would b awesome so much more oportunity for dragon clan against soul chillers, also some guardians are great help .. with some guardians, dragon clan gets so much more strenght also with maidens wich pwn  guardians make the life so much easier for dragon clan... first sd, then flash, then stun, then whirl, then id/archer and theyre done -.-gg 19838[/snapback] Sounds great Out but SD only work on range what to do if Lotus got malee? Good lotus nowadays dont only mass warlocks. The hardest kind of lotus players to play against for me is those who use malee mixed with ds+glue tons of chans all covered up with dc ofcause... Cant see any counter for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest [LOT]Phate #207 Posted October 1, 2006 well ive been thinkin about a shale zerk+ darkpact combo but ive never tried it o.o Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST]Outlaw 1 #208 Posted October 1, 2006 i couldn say anything but.. guardians would stop them.. and btw melee units kabukis(sd) vs blades-staffs-diseased are kinda a very fair battle so the best healerboy would win... another option would b infested but who makes those stupid silly dirty guys? :S no1 xx humm and yai sd stops skull + goo x.x ... you can run back and let the goo stay back and skul too so no more worries about skull.. about goo.. keep sd-ing to not get hit by it... phate if u make something sound hard it will really be hard i like to think that things are easier and that makes me be more relax and betta while playing... DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD xD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{HeRo}GeneralDS 4 #209 Posted October 1, 2006 hmm well thats y u get ur archers upgraded with zen accuracy and arrow craftsmanship so they can hit from farther away for more damage...if u can take out most of the warlocks before they reach you then that SC tends to lack a punch, also if u think they going for SC or DC then go in there and smash that crypt of theirs from behind lol so they will have wasted rice for nothing except some ruins i believe that most things can be countered, but some things just cant be countered at all no matter how hard you try someone stardusts ur melee units then they will hit for less damage and also be way weaker, but not as weak as if someone flash powdered the same units...flash powder and stardust together seems to be a death sentence to most players phate if you shale the zerks then use dark pact on them then that might work really well, but you need someone else to be serpent to do it...and the reduced hp will tend to be the zerk's downfall especially if someone decided to use Soul Thresher on those zerks, i used shaled zerks against Soul thresher and almost all of my zerks were wiped out...soul thresher owns the wolf no matter what... Diggers and dryads wouldnt stand a chance either, diggers would be killed before they knew what hit them due to their low HP, and dryads are just too dismal to even be using on their own... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K-DaSh 0 #210 Posted October 2, 2006 i couldn say anything but.. guardians would stop them.. and btw melee units kabukis(sd) vs blades-staffs-diseased are kinda a very fair battle so the best healerboy would win... another option would b infested but who makes those stupid silly dirty guys? :S no1 xx humm and yai sd stops skull + goo x.x ... you can run back and let the goo stay back and skul too so no more worries about skull.. about goo.. keep sd-ing to not get hit by it...phate if u make something sound hard it will really be hard  i like to think that things are easier and that makes me be more relax and betta while playing... DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD xD 19856[/snapback] I dont think kabuki warriors are good fighting vs the lotus melee units that u mentionated, i guess dragon warriors stands a better chance wining, kabuki warrios are weak and dies easy, u will need them for Flashpowder and SD but not for fighitng, ur main group of melee must be composed by DW, since they resist the blunt damage of the staff pretty well, and they rape the maigc damage of the diseased ones, now they are weak vs blade acolytes but if you have heaelers it will be ok, also u can go chi shield if theyr healths go down, what im trying to say is kabuki warriors lacks on combat, tryin to kill the lotus melee units with them will not work since they take a lot of damage from blunt (staff), magic (DO). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST]Outlaw 1 #211 Posted October 2, 2006 i still think kabukis are best choice cause they pwn staffs and are strong vs warlocks attacks... knight :s ... sd only prevents units to make ranged attack just that... flash powder would b great with some dragon warriors at their side.. but still hard cause every dragon unit is weak against soul chill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yai 0 #212 Posted October 2, 2006 Sure Dragon got kickass malee but u need to get close I feel its like running into a wall playing vs lotus. the ds keeps tapping u and when u get a little closer sc now how much heath u got left?.... Out u cant dust ds if he use it near himself good player dont throw it at enemies but near his own troops. Hard to hit ds when its surrounded by troops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darky 1 #213 Posted October 2, 2006 ahem yea yai u telll these guys.. lolz, lol i have NOTHING to say to this subject... dragon have 0 chance against a decent lotus player... not even a good one.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST]Outlaw 1 #214 Posted October 3, 2006 thats why i say -.- guardians kick asssssss -.- lol yai try with a keg! xx its difficult but area makes the life better xx idk, its too hard tho, must have a 100% non failable micro x.x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K-DaSh 0 #215 Posted October 3, 2006 thats why i say -.-Â guardians kick asssssss -.-lol yai try with a keg! xx its difficult but area makes the life better xx idk, its too hard tho, must have a 100% non failable micro x.x 19909[/snapback] Anyways who plays WOtw?? i have it already but i dont play it, i guess from all the rts games with expansion, wotw is the worse of all, their new units sucks, same new heros from all the time i have been playin Br online since 2002 i have never see someone summonin wildeye or teppo, unless they are losing badly and get mad sumonin heros trying to save their asses, only the grayback journey is the good stuff... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BEAST-RED 0 #216 Posted October 3, 2006 hunh? n i htought this topic was for rating best players ROFL hey k-dash!! how r ya? yes i agree with u dat WOTW is not very good...but have u noticed one thing...that lotus is very strong in that...they have extra hero called yeovaine or sumink......shes just awesome....she makes towers useless. also in wotw the lotus clan can upgrade its warlocks...how cool is dat upgraded warlocks are sooo powerful and so fast speed they have that nothing stops em. i also remember that dragon geishas were so cool in wotw...they get these awesome powers...although i havent played wotw in long time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{Dark}KaBuKI 2 #217 Posted October 3, 2006 Hmm what u saying about "kabukis"? kabukis are the most usefull units in the game anyways i can tank anyone with some kabukis, archear, 3 healers, and a stuner! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]rundown 3 #218 Posted October 4, 2006 I could beat that army easily My bandits and snipes would nail your army. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K-DaSh 0 #219 Posted October 4, 2006 hunh?   n i htought this topic was for rating best players ROFL hey k-dash!! how r ya? yes i agree with u dat WOTW is not very good...but have u noticed one thing...that lotus is very strong in that...they have extra hero called yeovaine or sumink......shes just awesome....she makes towers useless. also in wotw the lotus clan can upgrade its warlocks...how cool is dat  upgraded warlocks are sooo powerful and so fast speed they have that nothing stops em. i also remember that dragon geishas were so cool in wotw...they get these awesome powers...although i havent played wotw in long time. 19917[/snapback] WOTW is worse then, it just makes the lotus more abusive, buggy and overpowered..., first range and melee units are useless vs lotus since they have Dc and SC, now with WOTW towers are useless too, thx to Yvaine OMG... Anyways Kab sucks fighting and tanking,actually with geishas behind keep healing until digger can tank good...bandits are very good melee units they can handle anything...(but not SC of course). Cp give us some ratings of {{clan}} guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST]Outlaw 1 #220 Posted October 4, 2006 a hero doesnt make you win :s ... you should learn about maidens/guardians they kick ass... ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndominusRex 13 #221 Posted October 4, 2006 Is this topic is about player's rating? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{Dark}KaBuKI 2 #222 Posted October 5, 2006 I could beat that army easily  My bandits and snipes would nail your army. 19928[/snapback] I REALLY dont think so Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{Dark}WolfBite 2 #223 Posted October 5, 2006 I give all of you 10 for effort....except i give ragereaver a 1 for not showing up . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndominusRex 13 #224 Posted October 5, 2006 I give all of you 10 for effort....except i give ragereaver a 1 for not showing up . 19969[/snapback] This is something like schooling. People in my class get credits just by showing up in class even don't know anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedy 11 #225 Posted October 5, 2006 I beat a Lotus player in a WotW game using Dragon (long game), in my opinion WotW is better because the clans are more equal in power. It was originally a 2v2, but two people quit/crashed, so it was 1v1. The Lotus massed SC and DC + Healers/Goo/Ds etc.. I made Archers Geishas Whirling Spear Flashpowder Stardust Guardians with Concussion Smash Samurai with Dragonskin, and the Dragon Spirit. I stationed my Archers Geisha and Stardust on the hill, with Arah in a tower. The Samurai Flashpowder Concussion Smash and Whirl i put at the bottom of the hill. After the Lotus is satisfied with his army, he slowly begins his assault on my base. When he was close enough i used the Stardust, and sent Concussion Smash and Flashpowder into the middle of his army and activated it, immediatly afterwards using the Dragon Spirit and Whirling Spear on him.. Now he has no DC Geisha or Diseased, only Warlocks and Unclean with critical health, which was nothing the Archers and Samurai couldn't deal with. Against the same person in the normal version, i would lose simply because i have no way of stopping his DC temporarily whilst i use the Spirit. This is an example of how even Dragon has a chance of beating Lotus in Winter Of The Wolf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites