Dragon001 0 #1 Posted April 16, 2007 I Think its Garrin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cptheslayer 2 #2 Posted April 16, 2007 garrin is not weak. garrin is strong agaist cuttig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guess_Who 0 #3 Posted April 16, 2007 kazan of course...or do you think he can beat any zenmaster of dragon?! lol i dont think so^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]rundown 3 #4 Posted April 16, 2007 Otomo, he sucks miserably. A swordman can kill him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guess_Who 0 #5 Posted April 16, 2007 Otomo, he sucks miserably. A swordman can kill him. really?! wow i didnt know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KT'07 0 #6 Posted April 16, 2007 I think it's Otomo too, 3 - 4 peasants can kill him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{{clan}}UnablE 2 #7 Posted April 16, 2007 ofcourse not garrin he is the general of the dragon clan i think kazan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{HeRo}GeneralDS 4 #8 Posted April 23, 2007 Otomo is my personal choice. Get like a couple musketeers fully upgraded with blast shot, sic em on Otomo and Otomo is pretty much murdered...Otomo could even be killed by Shinja in most instances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guess_Who 0 #9 Posted April 23, 2007 Otomo is my personal choice. Get like a couple musketeers fully upgraded with blast shot, sic em on Otomo and Otomo is pretty much murdered...Otomo could even be killed by Shinja in most instances. shinja cant beat otomo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twentius 1 #10 Posted April 27, 2007 kazan of couse, if you battle kazan with otomo, who will win. kazan sucks in offense but otomo in defense. they have their own functionality of couse. kazan is super mega strong against buildings but otomo is strong against those unit with low resistance with cutting, and he is so great in supporting his allies. If you make kazan fight arah... who do you think would win... guess who?? kazan... i think garrin is strong!. With a massive lance, he could defeat what he could.. much more when riding a horse he have great bonuses! here's a test: make kenji fight tao, who will win??? when kenji use his critical strike, while tao is using his reflect BG, who will suffer the most. unfortunately kenji is unplayable in skirmish mode Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedy 11 #11 Posted April 27, 2007 Please don't quadruple post twentius, it's considered spamming. Maybe I should ban him if he keeps spamming... -Futsmod And as I mentioned in another thread, Kazan wouldn't beat Arah simply because he inflicts explosive not fire damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guess_Who 0 #12 Posted April 27, 2007 i tink kazan could have a chance against arah if you use his bg. when he's close enough you disable his bg. now he inflicts blunt damage instead explosive damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samuraispirit 0 #13 Posted June 28, 2007 I voted for Kazan. He is only good in burning down buildings but weak against other units. And when he walks with your army (you command your units and Kazan at the same time) then he makes your army slower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]diablo 1 #14 Posted July 3, 2007 idk i think garrin is useless.... he dies so fast... its just like otomo... i would choose otomo... but garrin cost more and 2 yang... he is just a waste...even with a horse hes horrible.... the horse dies instantly.. and his stamina generation is horrible... u use his bg and it takes like 20 minutes to use it again... i thought he could last longer vs grayabck but tao lasted longer... idk garrin is just horrible.... cost way too much and 2 yang Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]diablo 1 #15 Posted July 3, 2007 sorry for double posting but who voted tao as the worst? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOT]rundown 3 #16 Posted July 3, 2007 I am pretty sure I voted for Otomo because he dies to two swordsmen in Kenji's Journey. That's pretty pathetic for being a hero. I mean he's twice as big as them and his sword is twice as big as theirs, how can you lose? I guess you would have to be Otomo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedy 11 #17 Posted July 3, 2007 Garrin is the most expensive hero of Dragon, as a melee unit he is pathetic. I only summon him for his ability to steal other people's wild horse supplies without moving. Tao Is fairly cheap to summon and allows extra monks to be summoned. I find the best use for him is to send him into someone's rice paddy when their army is not around. He slaughters their peasants, causing havoc in their base. His excellent piercing resistance helps him to survive for a very long time against peasants. Otomo. Though he is weak, he has his uses. Namely being a good addition to a squad of spearmen and kabuki with whirl & flashpowder. He can regenerate the spearmen's stamina allowing them to re-use their BG without resting, as well as using his BG to increase their damage. Arah is the weakest unit in my opinion. Yes she has a very powerful attack, but she also has three big weaknesses, fire cutting and --->. Even if she's in a tower or on a horse, she won't survive long. She will always be a priority target for your opponent, because they know what sort of damage she can inflict if ignored. Kazan is weak, but not as weak as Arah. His ability to burn stuff outweighs his weakness. I don't consider Kenji to be a Dragon hero. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samuraispirit 0 #18 Posted July 6, 2007 I am pretty sure I voted for Otomo because he dies to two swordsmen in Kenji's Journey. That's pretty pathetic for being a hero. I mean he's twice as big as them and his sword is twice as big as theirs, how can you lose? I guess you would have to be Otomo Maybe the two swordsmen had get this technology from the pub who makes them stronger (I don´t know the english word for it but I know it only cost 1 Yin point)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samuraispirit 0 #19 Posted July 6, 2007 And I think Otomo makes many damage to other units as some of the ´´normal´´ dragon units. For Garrin I know that he is fighting good too but when you want that he is giving 100% then he has to fight on an horses back. Sorry for doublepost. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zimi 0 #20 Posted July 6, 2007 Of course its Otomo. I think. But his ability is good (to heal the stamina). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guess_Who 0 #21 Posted July 6, 2007 Maybe the two swordsmen had get this technology from the pub who makes them stronger (I don´t know the english word for it but I know it only cost 1 Yin point)? the 2 swordsmen can kill him even they didnt have get the technique to become stronger or get more HP. but for me hes very useful because his ability to regenerate stamina while fighting and his BG to inflict more damage is good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonsoul 3 #22 Posted July 19, 2007 swordmen get glass swords..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{HeRo}GeneralDS 4 #23 Posted August 12, 2007 the ability from the pub/tavern that raises attack is called Drunken Revelry in english. Glass Swords is a BG obtained from the Metal Shop. The Health Boost ability is called Fortified Ale. I still lean towards Otomo for weakest, due to the fact that he is killed fairly quickly. I mean, archers can easily hurt him enough to make him fall to his knees by the time they get to him, and then when he does he probably may slice up the archers a bit but he still falls. Only thing I find him useful for is to boost stamina of certain units and to prolong Last Stand Guardians time alive. BG is fairly useful when on the offense or trying to defend a key point. Garrin is actually a lot better on horseback, and is very useful against units that are weak to piercing. Sure it may take a while to restore stamina, but thats why you keep him in your base until you get enough horses or you are ready to attack. Plus it beats having to send peasants out for horses in dangerous areas (Look at certain 8 player maps, there is one that I can't think of the name, but the horses are down in the valleys where enemies tend to march through, and they are usually at a junction of base spots.) Arah is probably better overall, able to send temporary Zen Arrows (With Sight Beyond Sight) for the same distance. Get her a good view of the area and she can easily take out enemies before they get to you. Like all range units she falls fast in melee fights. Kazan is best as the building devastator. Only on rare occasions should he be used as a fighter, and is better against explosive weak units. Try having him use his BG on a Ballistaman, it is kind of interesting. Tao is very balanced, but what makes him stand out is his BG. Just activate it when he is fighting and enemies will just get their damage returned to them if they are meleeing him. Also very fast when he attacks (look at his staff, he swings it like it is lighter than air.) Teppo is best as assisting building demolition. If you see someone moving it to poison him or just inflict something on him, just activate his BG and those ailments will not touch him. Damage still breaks through though.. Kenji is one of the best, but certain heroes can down him quite easily. Critical Strike is very powerful, and does more than double damage like it says. Does more like triple or quadruple damage on enemies. With his range weapon doing explosive, he is good against most enemies! Ok, go ahead and start citing errors in my post about these heroes. I get it everywhere else in these forums... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{{clan}}UnablE 2 #24 Posted August 13, 2007 did you guys knew that without kenjis bj 2 blade accolythies can beat him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lordoflol 0 #25 Posted August 14, 2007 i voted kazan..... slow but can burn buildings........ SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites