Sniper Update~~

[friedrice 8]

I think a lot of people are missing the point with these alt weapons. Some of these weapons are to allow players to use a class more effectively in a situation where they are too much of a bonehead to switch to a different class. Example:

Valve sees that all the pyros use the backburner, and as a result the team can't stop an uber. Solution: Give the scout the sandman.

The sandman is not nearly as reliable in stopping an uber as a pyro with compression blast or demo stickies, but at least the people who decide to play scout on defense can help out a little.

Or just look at the back burner. Some people will not compression blast an uber because they don't know what compression blast is, afraid to die, etc... So Valve gives them a back burner so at least when they get that one crit kill, they can feel good about themselves.

On the other hand, Valve does add new strategy with some of the alt weapons. Everyone reading this forum probably already knows that a scout can distract a sentry gun and allow a demo to take it out without getting touched. Great for maps like granary where you need scouts.

So before everyone starts dogging the alt sniper rifle and saying it's useless, remember: Valve knows that some of the alts are worthless to players who understand how to switch classes. Some weapons are to help people not be completely worthless, other alts are to add new layers of strategy.

[Nket 16]

Riding Elephant

Level 40 mount

+60% move speed

+150 health

Mithril Spurs

OH GABE

[h3gi 5]

My friend's hoping the Jarate will be an unlock. With the way they made Sandvich and Bonk secondary weapon replacements, I could see it replacing the SMG if it were to come out, except for the fact that you'd be using it on enemies, not drinking it.

...At least, I should hope that would be the case.

[You suck and have no life 203]

I did some statistical calculation on this. There is a direct correlation between the number of snipers on a team, and the chances of that team losing. Its almost linear. If I had my own server, I would ban all snipers on my team except if we are winning or the snipers are a select few good ones i know.

[Rivanor 1]

from teamfortress.com regarding factors that make dying tolerable to the average gamer:

"The second [factor] was whether you felt you were actually engaged with the person who killed you. Dying to someone you weren't engaged with, especially when you were already engaged with someone else, was aggravating. Even worse was dying to someone who you couldn't have engaged with, even if you chose to. In that case, you're very unlikely to believe you could have done anything differently to survive."

This doesn't just cause hatred for snipers; it also causes hatred for spies as well. Those Valve people have pretty good insight into what makes the game fun.

[h3gi 5]

Even worse was dying to someone who you couldn't have engaged with, even if you chose to. In that case, you're very unlikely to believe you could have done anything differently to survive.

This part does not apply to Spies. If you engage a Spy, you are supposed to win. The only real class that might have trouble is Pyro or Medic if they're too far away, and by that distance he's no longer a threat to you.

So, my guess is that Sniper won the combination of both parts in the second point.

[Josh 18]

I'd assume something with a required minimum range from the target, but with more of a perk, like lowered or no zooming being required.

However, Nket and I have decided it will be the elephant gun, that fires elephants. Don't worry Valve, we got this.

If you change your default cross hair, you do not need to scope to use the sniper riffle, I changed mine to a dot that is just like if you use a fine point sharpie on you screen. It changes it for all classes though and can take some time to get use too but I enjoy playing with it since it shows up at all times for all classes.

[Krash 1,040]

I think its cool giving the snipers upgrades. Those aussies have been pushed around to long by spies and pyros. Im interested in the bommerang.

[Melissia 7]

That was an april fool's joke, krash.

[Repth (Hatred) 2]

i think what would be best for a sniper would be something that he can put down and it give him a bit of height so he can shoot over ppl's heads instead of headshotting his own team mates... even though there isnt ay FF it's still annoying when your teams near and messing with all your shots

[Spartan_0214 18]

I did some statistical calculation on this. There is a direct correlation between the number of snipers on a team, and the chances of that team losing. Its almost linear. If I had my own server, I would ban all snipers on my team except if we are winning or the snipers are a select few good ones i know.

K, graphing 'y = x' on your TI 84 is not "statistical calculation."

[Oww My Nose 19]

he said almost linear. so it was y=1.01x

[friedrice 8]

On the topic of Snipers, I found the secret as to how phantom is ranked so high... Cause no one on the other team will shoot him!

[Miyari 33]

If you change your default cross hair, you do not need to scope to use the sniper riffle, I changed mine to a dot that is just like if you use a fine point sharpie on you screen. It changes it for all classes though and can take some time to get use too but I enjoy playing with it since it shows up at all times for all classes.

I meant to do the damage of a fully-charged shot. I use a dot too, dork.

[h3gi 5]

Y'all are smalltime.

Real men count pixels to the center of their screen every time.

[You suck and have no life 203]

K, graphing 'y = x' on your TI 84 is not "statistical calculation."

Linear doesn't mean y = x newb. The ratio doesn't have to be 1:1.

All linear means is that the R square coefficient is close to 1.

[Melissia 7]

On the topic of Snipers, I found the secret as to how phantom is ranked so high... Cause no one on the other team will shoot him!

Hahahahah, classic.

[FunkyFresh 68]

Holy shit, what a screen

[Rydawg 14]

On the topic of Snipers, I found the secret as to how phantom is ranked so high... Cause no one on the other team will shoot him!

Phantom is a good sniper, though if you ever watch the score board when i play sniper i'm usually double his score. But i usually only play sniper in Badwater. I dunno why he scores so low sometimes cause I know him and I are about the same level.

[FunkyFresh 68]

Aye, gotta agree with that one. I have to play ultra greasy whenever Rawrdawg is sniping and on the other team

[Splodyhead 0]

Oooo this update is going to be alought of fun but is the stun effect on the boomeranged going to be -50% damage to all none-stunned units like the scout?

[+Henry Spencer 117]

>_>

That's not the real update bro.

[FunkyFresh 68]

Edited May 8, 2009 by FunkyFresh

[ShadoMagi 0]

Phantom is a good sniper, though if you ever watch the score board when i play sniper i'm usually double his score. But i usually only play sniper in Badwater. I dunno why he scores so low sometimes cause I know him and I are about the same level.

I need to stop being on the other team when you are both sniping, it's IMPOSSIBLE to be a heavy...You guys make me switch to sniper and die still half as much as when I'm a heavy, and kill someone (usually one of the other 2+ snipers) half of those times...

[FunkyFresh 68]

It's definitely possible, lol

Edited May 8, 2009 by FunkyFresh