Does God Exist?

[Sinophile 41]

http://www.whygodexists.ytmnd.com/

This is an informational YTMND (in layman's terms, animation) which "proves" god exists. I just thought it was intersting and wanted to share it with the d00dz.

warning: it's a bit difficult to understand at times, and the test disappeared before I could read it all -.- It also takes a while to fully load on slow modems. This might be a good thing though: gives you mroe time to read and think about the statements in there

Post your comments here.

[BloodyMary 0]

do you believe that futy?

[Izaak 3]

I read an article that when you deeply meditate, you could feel a presence somewhere. That is god.

I translate this as: if you meditate, your soul can feel the presence of a being that exists in the 11th dimension.

-Izaak, Lord of the Lotus Clan.

[Morok 0]

Lol I thought only I know that God exists.

[cptheslayer 2]

what a proof. However, it seems to be logic, but not valid since in order for something to happen, there must be a cause. So in order for the universe to come into being, there be must a cause. We all might be led in the wrong way to think that only all mighty God can create such being. But by the conception of God, we understand that only one God exists. Now lets say that object 5 moved from one position to another. This object 5 could not have moved if not caused by a force from another object, call it object 4. So Object 4 is the mover of object 5. But Object 4 must be moved by object 3 and Object must be moved by Object 2, and so on. Thus, the sequence goes on and on. Now the question about who is the primary mover arises. Since an object is caused to move by another object, we cannot conclude that there is a first primary mover. Thus, there would be infinitely many movers and there is no such primary mover.

[Aphte 1]

hhhmm there has also been signs of the devil out there like when the plane crashed into 1 of the twin towers smoke can out the other side that made a face of a devil

ill try to get a pic of it if i can

if theres a devil then theres a god

[cptheslayer 2]

You cannot conclude that. All bad things are caused by nature or living things. If there is God, then nature and Living things must be the God. Therefore, as I am a living thing, I am the God.

[IndominusRex 13]

God exist in only someone who has faith.

[Sinophile 41]

what a proof. However, it seems to be logic, but not valid since in order for something to happen, there must be a cause. So in order for the universe to come into being, there be must a cause. We all might be led in the wrong way to think that only all mighty God can create such being. But by the conception of God, we understand that only one God exists. Now lets say that object 5 moved from one position to another. This object 5 could not have moved if not caused by a force from another object, call it object 4. So Object 4 is the mover of object 5. But Object 4 must be moved by object 3 and Object must be moved by Object 2, and so on. Thus, the sequence goes on and on. Now the question about who is the primary mover arises. Since an object is caused to move by another object, we cannot conclude that there is a first primary mover. Thus, there would be infinitely many movers and there is no such primary mover.

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As you said, there must be a cause for everything and anything. You said that "Since an object is caused to move by another object, we cannot conclude that there is a first primary mover". But have you considered that a primary mover wasn't neccesary? The transfer of energy merely transforms the energy which has been in the universe since the universe began. Energy cannot be created*, so how did it get here? The answer is: it was just there. It was there since the begining of the universe, and always will be there. This is similar to atoms, photons and any other shit you can think of. It doesn't need to be created, it was just there. -.- correct me if im wrong though. This is just what I can conclude with my grade ten science.

*Nor can energy be destroyed, but thats besides the point.

hhhmm there has also been signs of the devil out there like when the plane crashed into 1 of the twin towers smoke can out the other side that made a face of a devil

ill try to get a pic of it if i can

if theres a devil then theres a god

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You didn't even click the link didn't you? You are talking about the God in Christian mythology. That may or may not be the god which theoretically oversees the universe. By the way, your logic is incorrect. The "devil"'s existence doesn't prove the god exists. Thats just like the apples oragnes arguement: An apple falls off a tree and gets bruised, therefore if the orange falls off the tree that too will get bruised.

God exist in only someone who has faith.

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An atheist can believe that god exists, does he have faith? And even if someone does have faith, does god really exist? He can believe all he wants, but the truth is that he will probably never know for sure that god exists. He believes in god, he doesn't know god.

[Aphte 1]

jeez take it easy

i make a comment you guys just bag on it chill

[Sinophile 41]

Yeah, but you can't spread your bullshit around, you know? I shot your post down before people could think it was truth. If you think I was poorly justified, you are welcome to argue I don't mind you doing that. Have some intelligent discussion on this forum for once.

Just write nicely, k?

[lordserpent 0]

but is god not something what human pretend to be is real

in order words god is made by human

if alla is a god what is god then also a god

nooh i respect people how belief in god or something like that that's not the point

every war has start because of gods/religion

[cptheslayer 2]

energy is considered as an object or a mover.

Nothing comes from nothingness.

[lordserpent 0]

so energy is god

[cptheslayer 2]

I think the entire universe is God. Thus, we are a part of the God. Lets just say that the Earth is one eye of the God's eyes. In conclusion, the belief that God exists as a one whole person is ridiculous.

[lordserpent 0]

ow so god is something sprital

but he only exists if u belief in him/her

[Aphte 1]

Yeah, but you can't spread your bullshit around, you know? I shot your post down before people could think it was truth. If you think I was poorly justified, you are welcome to argue I don't mind you doing that. Have some intelligent discussion on this forum for once.

Just write nicely, k?

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you sure are big headed futs

oh yeah they will sure believe you

after all you did try to spread this bullshit around that ur a girl

i had to shoot at ur post before they believe a person who makes bullshit of their own

btw any1 know when bax gunna be a moddy?

[Sinophile 41]

@lordserpent, read this.

An atheist can believe that god exists, does he have faith? And even if someone does have faith, does god really exist? He can believe all he wants, but the truth is that he will probably never know for sure that god exists. He believes in god, he doesn't know god.

@Donut

Me pretending to be a girl was a joke, and was mostly said in the spam forum which indicates the non-seriousness. I honestly don't care if people think thats bullshit. But this topic is a serious topic, no? People expect everything written in said serious topics to be the truth.

And ask Lord Zymeth if Baxter will become mod. I have little control over these decisions.

[Morok 0]

Do you believe in all of the wonders that were being done by all those saint people? So you have to believe in God.

[Sinophile 41]

I haven't seen the saints do their things with my own eyes, though I do believe these "saints" have done good things for mankind. In addition, I think that the written accounts which documented the saint's "miracle" were probably grossly exaggerated. Think about it: The Bible had been passed from Arab lands to Europe, been translated to dozens of languages back and forth and had been re-written by the various off-shoots of the main thread to suit themselves. I'd think there would be some degree of inaccuracy.

Correct me if im wrong though.

[stoos 0]

I can't and nobody can't explain the beginning of the universe. There are many theories. Some people say it was BOOM, some people say it was GOD, but no1 can't prove enything. Its really interesting but we will all dye before we become our answers

And last.. If really there was a God, much more people would play BR :angry:

[samuraispirit 0]

When god would be exist why nobody hadn´t seehim? The christians and so on are saying he is in the sky. Now all over the world the airplanes flying and nobody is seeing him/her. We have so great sattelites in space but he is not to see.

So god doesn´t exist because when he/she would exist we would have see him/her.

To god: When you are reading this then come down to my house when you want to say to me: I´am exist.

Greetings samuraispirit

[{HeRo}GeneralDS 4]

ok this reminds me of an episode of Futurama...where Bender is floating around space and then ends up at a nebula type thing that is communicating in binary...then Bender asks if it can speak in English then the nebula says "I do now." Meanwhile Fry and Leela go to this space observatory where some monks are searching for God...after some arguing and other stuff, Fry somehow spins the telescope knob and it stops in the direction of the nebula where Bender is at...then Fry wishes that Bender was back and the nebula forms a hand out of its clouds and flings Bender in the general direction of Earth (before, this cloud had no clue which direction was earth in and neither did Bender.) So Bender's conclusion was that the cloud was God...Don't take this as fact being that Futurama is a science fiction type cartoon series...Bender is a robot by the way...the show takes place in the year 3000...blah blah blah blah...

while Bender was with this cloud they talked about miracles and stuff...the cloud speaks about how if you perform too many miracles, people become dependent on you...Perform too little and people lose their belief in you...do just the right amount, and they will believe that it was just a miracle and they will believe in you but are not dependent on you...and the cloud also says about how a whole LOT of people and other beings wish for things and that the cloud just "tunes them out"...

maybe the reason why people believe god exists yet they never seen him was because he works in the background, so to say...he only performs miracles for only a few select people...but enough that makes people believe in him...there are different religions that have a different image for this god...but is god really the shape of a human? for all we know god could be a gaseous being that has no set form...this is just my opinion...so dont take it as a fact..

[IndominusRex 13]

Don't discuss about God. Just read your religion's bible.

[Sinophile 41]

Why can't we discuss religion? Priests, cardinals, monks and every other religious figurehead in the world base their life on discussing religion. Would it be bad to follow in their footsteps?