What Serpent Units Good Vs Wolf Clan ?

[FIRE4 9]

Hmm.. against a noob serp player you mey sucseed but against a serp pro.. But what am i talking even if the serp player isnt a pro but a good player, you wont sucseed. The wolf isnt for rush! Theyr training is too expencive, idk for the structures but costs for training are a bit high, for rush.(Against Serpent that is.)

[{{{{{Ru}}}}} 6]

Hmm.. against a noob serp player you mey sucseed but against a serp pro.. But what am i talking even if the serp player isnt a pro but a good player, you wont sucseed. The wolf isnt for rush! Theyr training is too expencive, idk for the structures but costs for training are a bit high, for rush.(Against Serpent that is.)

you know there is such a thing call wolf rush too and i know 2 types you should play more on multiplayer to understand what we talk about here i think you didn't played against strong player that do on you strong and fast stretegy really play online !

[{LB}-DunKing___ 0]

i think the only way is many geishas and mass snipes 2-3 smokes (if balista came and shoot your units smoke them and then snipe)

And shinja or nekro at first line so that all tower will shoot at him (be carefully that the wolf dont use zen punch on shinja and expacially on nekro , better put all snipes behind nekro so that zen punch die if he want to attack nekro)

::);)

[FIRE4 9]

Dude dont talk to me about strategys.. BTW Wolf and Lotus are very easy countered by Serpent! That is a fact! Now if some serp player is weak against wolf that doesnt make the clan weak. Facts are facts strategy is strategy and practise is practise. Without practise you cant use strategys, without strategys you cant use facts(this is a fact two!), without facts you are a noob. What a simple phylosophy, isnt it?

[{LB}-DunKing___ 0]

1 more thing is to use musk rush on wolf if u do it good it will beat him no matter if he has wolfs or hurlers just destroy buildings a few times

then upgrade musk for defensive so the dont take much damage fromm hurler and then upgrade for damage.

If this doesnt work get back and make snipes fromm your musk your oppnent will now have many hurlers and wont have any chance

YEA im a Canoneer no more Archer hahahaha ;)

[{{{{{Ru}}}}} 6]

A`sC-iVo answers not specificeted for an example : a person have a problome whith hes windos and he explain it in fourm and w8 for help than come's "A`sC-iVo 1" and say's : you have a problome,! buy a new computer !that will solve you'r problome !.!.

... unerstand for what i mean ?? or to explain it more specifick?! O.O ?!

good i have good musk rush too it's on of my bests rush !

[{LB}-DunKing___ 0]

A`sC-iVo answers not specificeted for an example : a person have a problome whith hes windos and he explain it in fourm and w8 for help than come's "A`sC-iVo 1" and say's : you have a problome,! buy a new computer !that will solve you'r problome !.!.

... unerstand for what i mean ?? or to explain it more specifick?! O.O ?!

good i have good musk rush too it's on of my bests rush !

xD yea

ok but its not so easy first destroy some buildings for slow him xD

in one thing serpent is better and thats the speed

use it againstwolf an u will win

lol Ru we have the sames post : 104

[FIRE4 9]

Ru i think you misunderstand what i meant in that topic about his problem If you read it again you will see that there are no such words like go buy a new PC, you just got anoyed about what i write and there you go spaming all over, and this comment is a 100% spam. "good i have good musk rush too it's on of my bests rush !" How do you think you will help this dude with he`s problem? If you have something to say to me PM me.

[reNekRoManT 3]

search a topic of ben

serpv vs wolf

there mass tactics and strategys

[{{{{{Ru}}}}} 6]

musk rush is the best way to kill wolf my opinion and A`sC-iVo don't understand about what we talk about here and it's kinda off not funny and annoying !

[KenjiZMD07 3]

For me...ummhhmm... maybe a cannoneer combined with ronins and some musketeer that have blast shot,but, i finish Kenji's journey with the serpent,i only use musketeer there that have a BG blast shot....(easy one)!

[{{{{{Ru}}}}} 6]

Ru i think you misunderstand what i meant in that topic about his problem If you read it again you will see that there are no such words like go buy a new PC, you just got anoyed about what i write and there you go spaming all over, and this comment is a 100% spam. "good i have good musk rush too it's on of my bests rush !" How do you think you will help this dude with he`s problem? If you have something to say to me PM me.

wtf i am the person who asked for help OMG look again who open this topic nothin to add ...

[*JorakaE* 0]

If im facing wolf and using a serpent. I think Ill use musketeers with upgraded rifles for the armored ones and crossbowmen with the upgraded poison for razing pheasants:)

[True CobraKhan 1]

Most of the ppl say that serpent clan is weak against wolf in a long game couz whene wolf clan have mass of balistman whith shield whith long range update and towers and warewolf whith BG that attacke fast how serepnt clan should deal whith that strategy ???? i tought of blast against balistman but towers kill them qiuke and slow them and werewolf can busy my blast, smoke do low damage and tower kill it fast too ?? crosbows die too fast so how to deal whith that ??

Can we get x2 pros to try this and video it using dif strats.

FACT

Enemy: WOLF

You: SERP

Map: Lets assume its Freedom map since (as mentioned in a post already) this is most popular 1v1 map.

Situation: Wolf has established base and fully upgraded and massed Balista

So for whatever reason this is the situation you are in. I guess we should assume both teams are fully towered at either sides of the map.

The wolf has obviously anticipated your attack as being your downfall since you are not going to get close to the towers or get past them with a lot of units.

Equally. Wolf is not going to cause too many problems for you if you have the right units by your towers.

The following isnt tried and tested by me and is just a theory.

Using Serp

I wouldn't blast shot with musk (at least not as a bulk force) since its a close range attack and I'll assume most of the wolf force is shaled. I think I would be more inclined to have massed snipe and a large number of smoke and mug.

Additionally I would want raiders for the warewolf hit and runs. Nekros undead warriors and Vet will be at the forefront of my force. The mug will be most important.

In my opinion

Whoever attacks without thinking too much is going to lose.

If wolf fully attacks serp then they are going to get smoked, mugged and sniped. Vet will ensure they cant run.

Even if wolf sends in a mass of wolfs with pack master to distract I cant imagine them lasting that long in the smoke and snipe (especially if Utarah has unleashed her spell)

If serp fully attacks then the fully upgraded ballista are going to have a devastating effect on the force and the mugs wont really have a chance to do their work. Wolfs and Warewolfs will tie up the force and cause a lot of critical strike damage on strongest units while the ballista take them out.

To win your are going to have to work out of your comfort zone and take your opponent out of their comfort zone. This being a lot of good micro. If you are going to succeed in your attack and not through a counter attack then the way to do it is going to have to be through distraction.

I would at least try and get some bandits with stealth through to the wolf base or run to the base with raider (not going near towers).

This would be purely to distract. Then you are going to have to take out the towers at the same time using other raiders or with smoke (being prepared to lose units).

Hopefully you will have taken out the towers are able to unleash with full force ?

Send through units to tie up ballista, then smoke and mug, snipe.

Maybe laughable but that's what I think i would try 1st.

[Samuronin 2]

Weakness Bolts (Crossbowman) , Paralysis Darts (Bandits) and Muggers will do the job!!!

[WolfMasterZX 0]

try using smoke,mug,vet,utara,shinja and some ronins... good luck to you LOL

[{{clan}}CocKTail- 0]

smoke mug vet utara ronins will die in a few second againt fully upgraded balista with tower

[firsthonorboy 1]

I usually use ronin musketeers, enforcers, and fan geisha. To stop the werewolves, just have your melee units(preferably ronin) attack them while the geisha heal them from a safe distance. The musketeers will help against the ballistamen because the ballistamen are weak against explosives(blast shot works well against a tightly knit group of them). Enforcers are just there to provide help to the ronin. If facing a tower, use the blast shot battlegear of the musketeers, because it is very effective. Just make sure the fan geisha don't move and attack any of the units or buildings because then they can't heal.

[reNekRoManT 3]

snipers , geishas and smoke (or raiders) for destroy towers

[†okyo 4]

no need for ballistamens ull need is to train hurlers..!!

[--Kabuki-- 0]

the musketeers maybe. I do think though that the wolf clan is good against the Serpent in the long run. I could be wrong but from my experience that's how it is.

[Petar 5]

Most of the ppl say that serpent clan is weak against wolf in a long game couz whene wolf clan have mass of balistman whith shield whith long range update and towers and warewolf whith BG that attacke fast how serepnt clan should deal whith that strategy ???? i tought of blast against balistman but towers kill them qiuke and slow them and werewolf can busy my blast, smoke do low damage and tower kill it fast too ?? crosbows die too fast so how to deal whith that ??

Why dont you try withces for the balistas, riders for the werewolves few ronin to die for the cursed swords and bandits + cross for poison dps ? I think it may work.

[HeartBreakKid 0]

if your opponent use berserkers, use utara on the front lines and cannoneers on her back. this way you will stun berserkers and killing them easily w/ cannoneers (berserkers are weak to blunt). another alternative is bandits w/ paralysis darts, you could kill w/out losing much units. smoke bomb is also useful.

[The Nightvol 0]

When the mission starts, use swordsmen quickly and attack the Wolf base at the top of the hill(near the place where you start the mission). When you have enough Yin points, research the first and second technique. Then build a base on the hill. After that, make many cannoneers, geishas, and, if you want, musketeers with sniper scope. Research every technique on every units you trained. Destroy all Wolf bases around the province. Leave Kenji to Grayback at the altar, and to The Nightvol

FINISH!!!

[HeartBreakKid 0]

Use Utara, Swordsmen(Mugging BG), Cannoneer(smoke BG), Bandits(darts BG), Shinja.

Any unit above will do. One of my favorite combos are, Swordsman(Mugging) then Taro(Hex BG) then Ronin(Yin Blade). swordsmen strips wolf units of their shale armor thus reducing resistance to magic, then activate taro's BG(reduces magic resistance further), then activate all your ronins' yin blade(magic type), it could kill wolves quicker