Stupidest Battle Gear For Serpent!

[Samuronin 2]

Then use Blood Bond to a stronger unit, a Necromancer surrounded by geishas, who the hell uses blood bond on peasants lol, you don't use Blood Bond properly that is why you hate the it.

[Petar 5]

Then use Blood Bond to a stronger unit, a Necromancer surrounded by geishas, who the hell uses blood bond on peasants lol, you don't use Blood Bond properly that is why you hate the it.

Man are you fuking kidding ???? to risk the Necromancer's life like that ???? NO really you cant be serious. Do you know that if any of the bonded ronin to the necro dies the bondie (necro) dies as well (if the player didn't make it to turn of the bond which is relatively easy in the midds of battle). You know what that means? I throw some magic stuff on 1 ronin and kill both him and the necro regardless of the number of geisha beside the necro.... Ronin dies => Necro dies and that's just SHIT. I still think Blood bond is the wors BG ever and I will never sacrifice the life of a unit above ronin's rank for such a sake.. . Bond to a peasent is the best option. Still take my advice and never use this BG you just take more damage if you make simple arithmetic calculation lol 25% > 0 % hahahah

P.S edit: I was wrong the bondie dont die if ronin falls. The Bug is fixed on the expansion, however The bondie still takes 25% + bonus dmg. I wonder there may be a usefull side if you bond your ronin with unit strong vs his weaknesses that could make good fighting resistance unit. Still worst BG IMO.

[FIRE4 9]

Then why not using it on Budo???? I alays use the bond on Budo cuz he isnt much of use in battle. BTW for me the useles bg is Brushfire. Remember Infested? Theyr BG is far more better cuz they not only burn or wathever they do to the rice, they burn it for a long enough time to screl the enemys resourses. As for brush fire the rice grows back faster. So if da eenmy water the rice it will grow normaly fast. That means u did nothing at all to the enemy. Just waste time peasants and resourses. This is my opinion.

[†okyo 4]

ow men not again its obvious that slave driver is useless he only kill peasants for that and hes slow hands dude !!!

[firsthonorboy 1]

I voted for the Brush Fire one because why do you need to burn your enemy's rice? Just burn down the village instead!

[TriZed 1]

I voted for the Brush Fire one because why do you need to burn your enemy's rice? Just burn down the village instead!

For me its the brush fire. Why? You can only use it when your inside your enemies base or ricefield. Before you can go in, your Raiders will already be damaged or worse get killed by the enemy's base guards. Why waste your time attacking only the ricefield when in a matter of seconds, the rice will grow again? Ill just go for the spikes instead. They would be fun if someone tries to catch up with the Raiders while running/escaping...

PS: This is my first post. I dont know if I do it right. Ill just see the results later. Long live BR.

[adelide 0]

So long I'm not login yet since january .....

But Budo's slave driver is very BULLSHIT !!!!

[hyperknuckles77 2]

Blood Bond's the worst, imo. Why let other units be killed in place of you anyway? I see no use in it. I tried blood bonding with a fan geisha before, and the ronin still died. Useless BG for me.

[{{clan}}MeD 1]

Glass sword is the most useless BG of serpent for me only because when he activates it, the swordman can't run anymore, and that's the contrary of the serpent clan. Serpent clan is known to be very fast and to kill quickly, glass sword is too slow to kill anyone, even if u bring it in a middle of a battle.

[Aramid 2]

2 years passed since the creation of this poll, Slave Driver is leading while Glass Sword is right behind. I have to say Glass Sword is good in damaging foes greatly but the consequences of losing a unit does not justify the action. A swordsman can be more helpful with a mugging battle gear since it affects several nearby foes that can alter the tide of battle.

Slave Driver is one of my options since peasants with horses can contribute more on increasing resources. The battle gear damages peasants and worst kills them. It is hard losing a peasant when the population reaches 30 or more. The more you need a worker the peasant regenerates slowly at those points.

[Donald 0]

I vote Blood Bond because is not a useful/helpful to me.

[Petar 5]

I voted for the Brush Fire one because why do you need to burn your enemy's rice? Just burn down the village instead!

Brush fire could be cool if you play on setting with rice grow rate SLOW ... besides infest one's bg is stupid for cutting supply line because he moves like shit and it is almost impossible to go to the rice field while the raider is the fastest unit in game...

Still blood bond is retarded even if used on budo... Why should I make ronin tougher ???? the purpuse of the ronin is to die so he can cast cursed swords, so my army may benefit.. ronin does redicilous damage anyway boosting his life for onother unit is more than stupid IMHO

2 years passed since the creation of this poll, Slave Driver is leading while Glass Sword is right behind. I have to say Glass Sword is good in damaging foes greatly but the consequences of losing a unit does not justify the action. A swordsman can be more helpful with a mugging battle gear since it affects several nearby foes that can alter the tide of battle.

Slave Driver is one of my options since peasants with horses can contribute more on increasing resources. The battle gear damages peasants and worst kills them. It is hard losing a peasant when the population reaches 30 or more. The more you need a worker the peasant regenerates slowly at those points.

I see why ppl hate slave driver... but the reason is that they just dont know how to use it... in fact it is not such a bad spell the only thing you have to watch out for is to use it ONCE IN A WHILE ... just one or two hits with the whip peasents need to be on yeallow at least they move much faster it is usefull for getting horses and for resources ofcourse and when you reach max resources the peasents stop and regenerate you can use it again... it is not a good BG but it is not the worst....

I vote Blood Bond because is not a useful/helpful to me.

It is helpful to noone

[Petar 5]

Actually Slave Driver isn't bad at all !!! You just need to know when and how to use it... Listen to this... Imagine that you play on low rice grow rate... now you make few raiders with brush fire and you pack horses with peasents for rice, you give all your resources for an army meanwhile your opponent is going to make the same except that you will brush fire his crops now you can use slave driver 1 or two times to leave your peasents on yellow so they can run YOU WILL NOT INJURE THE PEASENT'S HORSES !!! this means super fast working peasents with horses, so you will collect and WATER the rice in a matter of seconds. You can constantly pay for raiders to harass the opponent until he can take it no more.... This is the most subtle way to defeat an opponent using the serpent clan IMO

Slave driver = economic victory

[HeartBreakKid 0]

Glass Sword - quite useless because you have to heal the swordsman immediately after you use it

Phosphorus Bolts - it is useful when your opponent have no idea that it can be destroyed

Mines - useful for luring a compressed army

Brush Fire - i use this on rush attack games

Caltrops - same as land mines

Stealth - this is also useless. the ninja BG is better

Blood Bond - i always use it on resilient heroes (shinja, budo, etc)

Slave Driver- Budo - useless

Bravado- Vetkin - i use it against warlocks (to prevent them use SC), staff adepts (DC) and healers then attack immediately. thus giving advantage

[jarhead 0]

well,,for me it's the bandits stealth ability,,i think they are just useless because it will only make em invisible

[}Angel of Death{ 0]

Glass Sword - quite useless because you have to heal the swordsman immediately after you use it

Phosphorus Bolts - it is useful when your opponent have no idea that it can be destroyed

Mines - useful for luring a compressed army

Brush Fire - i use this on rush attack games

Caltrops - same as land mines

Stealth - this is also useless. the ninja BG is better

Blood Bond - i always use it on resilient heroes (shinja, budo, etc)

Slave Driver- Budo - useless

Bravado- Vetkin - i use it against warlocks (to prevent them use SC), staff adepts (DC) and healers then attack immediately. thus giving advantage

ur wrng i know that if u use glass sword even through its slow its usefull use ur HEAD even ur using 1st tier u can kill a 3RD TIER UNIT in one HIT

and u cannot heal em BECAUSE if they use it its only once so they'll DIE so you od not need a fan geisha to heal a swordsman

silly

i snap who's that dude? i don't even know his name lolz

[DaTaBLitZ001 3]

Budo's Slave Driver, makes ur peasants work fast but beat them till they die. It's useless!!

[Werewolf1995 0]

Slave driver...what a stupid battle gear...

[FIRE4 9]

lol just put a geisha where the peasants are and they wont die...

[JPursa 2]

Slave Driver. Only applies to friendly Serpent Peasants.

[Sinophile 41]

ur wrng i know that if u use glass sword even through its slow its usefull use ur HEAD even ur using 1st tier u can kill a 3RD TIER UNIT in one HIT

and u cannot heal em BECAUSE if they use it its only once so they'll DIE so you od not need a fan geisha to heal a swordsman

silly

When they use it, they become red health, but they don't die. They only die if they've been damaged before hand. Also, when you give swordsman a glass sword, he becomes unable to run.

Slave Driver. Only applies to friendly Serpent Peasants.

I don't see how this is a big problem. Its a shame however that you can only get Budo after you've built the keep, which by that time economic micromanagement isn't as important as early game. You can whip the peasants up to three times (or four, can't remember), and yes the effects do stack, so the peasants get faster after every whip.

Also if you're afraid of your peasants dying, put a geisha or two in the rice field. Its also a good idea to use Blood Bond on Budo and keep him in base. He has a ton of defense and HP and the geisha will keep him alive. Also its interesting to note, the further away the peasant is from Budo when he uses his BG, the less damage he'll receive. Its possible to put Budo at a distance where the peasants can receive his effects, but not get damaged. People who say Slave Driver is shit don't know how to use it.

Strangely enough, even when I use Blood Bond, my Ronin still sometimes get damage (although its less). It significantly increases their life span though. Send one Ronin to suicide so he can use his curse and put Blood Bond on all the rest. To all those that say using BB means less geisha to put on the battlefield: thats true, but also consider that your geisha are now inside your base where they can't get attacked, but can effectively 'heal'.

Overall I'd say Brush Fire is the worst BG. The rice will just grow back again. I can only see it being useful if you need to clear a lot of trees quickly, or if you're on a map where the rice grows slowly or there is very little of it. Oh, and forget about being able to run to the enemy rice field. The battle realms AI LOVES to do the opposite of what you tell it to. Your raider will probably run into some enemy unit/peasant, start attacking it, and then get slaughtered by the army. Or probably do something equally stupid, like walk next to a peasant then accidentally trip off the peasant's attack, or start hurling torches at buildings.

Stealth is also not that great, because it drains stamina too quickly, and if you're fighting against in AI they can see you anyway. Mines takes too fucking long to plant. Enjoy taking 5 minutes to plant 9 mines, and then killing just one brawler. At least caltrops takes less time.

Vetkin's Bravado is quite useful. Make him run to the enemy army and use Bravado to drain their stamina, making them unable to use their BGs. Don't use Vetkin to attack, he is quite weak- make him run away, regenerate his stamina, then run back and use Bravado again. Also, since he doesn't use stamina when running, he can be used for hit and run, harassment etc. Use him to attack, use Bravado so the enemy can't run, then flee.

[JPursa 2]

Yeah I know.

Brush Fire is not the worst BG IMO.

[BlackPutridity9 3]

I would rather beat up defenseless peasants than kill trees faster than i already can, so i pick brush fire.

[Bimo Samoedro_24164 0]

I always use slave driver on my peasant 3 times. They don't die, just nearly no health. And let them healed by Geisha. Very useful if you want to have a very fast income. After Budo have full stamina, I use Slave driver again.

Whip whip crack crack (Budo using Slave Driver), ouch ouch ARGH (peasants getting beaten nearly death), aaaaahhh... thank you(peasants healed).

[BlackPutridity9 3]

I always use slave driver on my peasant 3 times. They don't die, just nearly no health. And let them healed by Geisha. Very useful if you want to have a very fast income. After Budo have full stamina, I use Slave driver again.

Whip whip crack crack (Budo using Slave Driver), ouch ouch ARGH (peasants getting beaten nearly death), aaaaahhh... thank you(peasants healed).

Haahhahah i know that is what i love and i wish it could be used on ai peasants too.